Preview Changes Vs COLA Swans Round 17

[Brave Sir Robin]

Adam Simpson loves him.

Interesting to hear that from you RE. Also disappointing because it probably means it's true.

What was the subtle bake he gave Selwood in the media a few weeks back about thhen?

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

Hill faces fitness test saturday if he doesn't come up Newman will play.
It also highly likely that Hill wont come up.
Bennell is cover for Ellis.

 

[Avalor]

http://www.westcoasteagles.com.au/g...agic#66adbbf2a79be410VgnVCM100000976bb70aRCRD

Is it just me, or does it look like Lamb has bulked up a bit since the start of the year...?

I thought that too. Could become quite the beast. I hope so ... both him and JD in a year or two could be quite the handful.

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

Interesting to hear that from you RE. Also disappointing because it probably means it's true.

What was the subtle bake he gave Selwood in the media a few weeks back about thhen?

Simpson knows his form isn't great, but is backing him in to turn it around.

 

[Dark Sharks]

You can't be serious? He's a few weeks back from injury. Yes he's not looking great atm but he's playing better than McGinnity ever did and he lifts his level by 10% hell be contributing more than Lucas ever would. We have no chance of winning the premiership unless we can get Selwood back to or at least close to 2012. Well worth the risk slightly carrying him now.

If Hutchings was waiting in the wings then possibly but McGinnity and Lucas are horrible with no upside

A "few weeks" back? He's played the last 8 games straight, with a bye in between. How is he still finding touch? He cripples this team.

I don't want Selwood playing unless he's the sub, same goes with Lucas, but i still think Lucas is a better sub option.

Based on output, Hutchings deserves a crack for a full game. Mcginnity i don't want in the team ever again, but we have a good impersonator instead.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Hope that Barrass will make the 22, if Gov were only missing for 1 game, they could potentially temporarily use another player to cover him, but if he really could be out for up to a month, we need a 2nd KPD to help out Schoey. If one of Gov or Schoey were to go down again just before the finals, it would help to be able to bring in a player with a few games of experience already.
I can see Barrass starting as the 3rd tall until he finds his feet, with Yeo at CHB. Hurn could also start there as he has also played on taller players this year.

 

[Suma Magic]

Hill faces fitness test saturday if he doesn't come up Newman will play.
It also highly likely that Hill wont come up.
Bennell is cover for Ellis.

Interesting.

Assume Barrass for Gov?

Any idea on sub?

 

[Double the Fist]

A "few weeks" back? He's played the last 8 games straight, with a bye in between. How is he still finding touch? He cripples this team.

I don't want Selwood playing unless he's the sub, same goes with Lucas, but i still think Lucas is a better sub option.

Based on output, Hutchings deserves a crack for a full game. Mcginnity i don't want in the team ever again, but we have a good impersonator instead.

Agree. But Lucas? Really! Has he been good in the ressies?

 

[boondy]

Hill faces fitness test saturday if he doesn't come up Newman will play.
It also highly likely that Hill wont come up.
Bennell is cover for Ellis.

selwood has a knee might not play ? so hutch plays and who is sub ?

 

[Brave Sir Robin]

selwood has a knee might not play ? so hutch plays and who is sub ?

Would think if Newman is odds on to play, which seems to be the case given Hill's shoulder, then he is the obvious favourite.

 

[boondy]

last time I saw east perth play , ( against peel it was ) Newman was starting in the backline , probably because it was going there a lot , does anyone know if that is what he has been doing in more recent games

 

[Reminiscence]

Very keen to see Barrass in action.
Hope he makes it.

 

[EastPete]

Hope that Barrass will make the 22, if Gov were only missing for 1 game, they could potentially temporarily use another player to cover him, but if he really could be out for up to a month, we need a 2nd KPD to help out Schoey. If one of Gov or Schoey were to go down again just before the finals, it would help to be able to bring in a player with a few games of experience already.
I can see Barrass starting as the 3rd tall until he finds his feet, with Yeo at CHB. Hurn could also start there as he has also played on taller players this year.

This should have happened weeks ago. A lot of us saw the serious risk. Barrass or McInnes - one of them should have been back. I personally like McInnes because he gives some flexibility up forward if Darling is being beaten. This suggests a bit of weakness in Simpson as a strategic thinker. I suppose it is a risk judgement. But because McGovern has fitness problems it doesn't surprise me that he is injured. In fact he has been carrying an injury for a while. A cover should have been building - WAFL is not the same. There is one thing that justifies Simpson's position; it is that 190Cm players fit somewhere between short and tall. This allows Yeo to play tall in a pinch. But a nearly tall is not a tall and will be found out. We need that bigger person in the mid field so we would have a robbing Peter to pay Paul situation.

 

[Bender_]

This should have happened weeks ago. A lot of us saw the serious risk. Barrass or McInnes - one of them should have been back. I personally like McInnes because he gives some flexibility up forward if Darling is being beaten. This suggests a bit of weakness in Simpson as a strategic thinker. I suppose it is a risk judgement. But because McGovern has fitness problems it doesn't surprise me that he is injured. In fact he has been carrying an injury for a while. A cover should have been building - WAFL is not the same. There is one thing that justifies Simpson's position; it is that 190Cm players fit somewhere between short and tall. This allows Yeo to play tall in a pinch. But a nearly tall is not a tall and will be found out. We need that bigger person in the mid field so we would have a robbing Peter to pay Paul situation.

So Simmo should've tinkered with a team/plan that was winning games comprehensively to prepare for future matches where he might not have the same team, and the WAFL is not the right place to do this?

Okay.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Could've given Barrass a trial run as a 3rd tall vs Melb or Essendon. Don't think it would've been a huge risk.

 

[eaglespremiers]

I thought that too. Could become quite the beast. I hope so ... both him and JD in a year or two could be quite the handful.

Would be excellent using Lamb up on the wings Riewoldt-style and Darling as a stay-home key forward.

 

[Brave Sir Robin]

So Simmo should've tinkered with a team/plan that was winning games comprehensively to prepare for future matches where he might not have the same team, and the WAFL is not the right place to do this?

Okay.

Exactly. The whole idea of team defense is first and foremost that you need to be able to play to the plan. Because our focus is on peeling off and spoiling or intercepting we need guys who are quick and read the flight of the ball well. I think Simpson would have a very good idea where our potential defenders are at based on how well they do these things, and it isn't strictly necessary to play with our structure at AFL level to get a reasonably good idea imo.

 

[the harry]

Could've given Barrass a trial run as a 3rd tall vs Melb or Essendon. Don't think it would've been a huge risk.

Yeah hindsight says we should have (and some on here were probably preaching that at the time).

But the fact the club seems happy for him to come in ahead of McInnes to play down back, or even Sinclair given he has trained a bit down there this season, is a good sign. Especially given how little footy he has actually played at senior level, it's not even 20 games I think.

 

[Obeanie1]

How the **** is Selwood still playing?!

Refer Priddis thread I and II and then look how that's panned out.

Amazing how people on here always have to bash someone.

 

[Farang83150]

This suggests a bit of weakness in Simpson as a strategic thinker.

Or maybe suggests Simmo knows more than you?

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Only a squad at present but the MC need to decide whether they want to blood Barrass to cover McGovern for his period out or is it purely to get by for the week. If it was just picking for this week and with the Sydney tall brigade being depleted, then we could potentially get away with not having either Barrass or McInnes in the team. It is important to know what our options are coming up to a finals run and I would much rather test out Barrass against Sydney this week (no Reed or Tippett in attack) than in the finals when their team is taller.

What will the Swans forward line look like? With both Richards (192) and Tippett (201) out, it is really interesting. I think Reed (196 cm) will need to go back to cover as Grundy (192) is not the right match up for Kennedy (196). Xavier Richards (196) on debut against our KPF leading who the Coleman? That feels like a step too far. Rampe (188) is their next tall and the rest are under 183 cm. So the Sydney tall forward line of last week suddenly looks small minus Tippett and Reed

Schofield on Buddy is a no brainer. Either Barrass or McInnes on Buddy and he will have a field day. Goodes (191) is more than adequate to take on the second KPF and could be covered by Barrass (194+) with Rosa (191) or Sheppard (188) if needed. Pyke (201) has also spent time in the past up front and is a really strong mark (though he suffers in conversion like Sinclair). I recall Pyke leading the stats in 2014 for contested marks and I expect Nankervis (199) play and they and spend some time resting in the forward line. Pyke coming back as the single tall against NicNat and Sinclair - high risk.

Sinclair had one of his best games last week but he is impotent in front of goals. If that continues, I would like to see McInnes as the second ruckman and resting in the forward line. He has been doing it at EP and been in good form. Sinclair has trouble making the distance from outside 40 metres and even shanks them from dead in front. Until Lycett gets fit and in form, I get scared with Selwood, Sheed and Sinclair in our forward line. Great grunt but they collectively fail to impact the scoreboard on a weekly basis.

Looking forward to the cat and mouse of Simpson and Horse at the selection table.

 

[kaiserchief13]

Refer Priddis thread I and II and then look how that's panned out.

Amazing how people on here always have to bash someone.

Priddis hasn't suddenly improved his kicking skills or speed, he's just playing to his strengths now. Selwood has a bit more speed but has even worse kicking skills, can't win the ball as much and can't tackle as well. Not sure what his purpose in the team is????

 

[Sw3Et]

Seems about 2% of people on the swans board think they have a chance. Anybody feel like this will be our first over their lot in a while? And none of this close game crap either. We'll get em by 50

 

[eaglespremiers]

Seems about 2% of people on the swans board think they have a chance. Anybody feel like this will be our first over their lot in a while? And none of this close game crap either. We'll get em by 50

Apart from McGovern missing we have no excuse not to have a comfortable win.
We should have a sizable advantage all over the ground.
It appears that Reid, Grundy and X Richards will be their key backs.
They'll be matched to Kennedy, Darling and resting ruckman respectively I would've thought.
But if they play that combination they will have lost a fair amount of rebound from defence.
Then, up forward, they'll have Franklin, Goodes and a resting ruckman.
These will probably be matched by Schofield, Sheppard and Barrass respectively.
Those match ups, by and large, favour us. I don't think Barrass is going to be exploited by Pyke or Nankervis is his first game.
In fact, he might actually be able to zone off them quite a bit to chop out the play McGovern-style.
Sheppard should be the perfect match up for an aging Goodes.
Franklin can always break Schofield's clutches but I think that comes down to the "web" not operating effectively.
Another aspect in our favour (and will affect the output of their forward line) is our dominance in the midfield.
Last week we squeezed Collingwood in the midfield when McGovern had gone off and kept them to two goals and a quarter and a half.
This week we will have a distinct advantage if Naitanui can dominate the ruck (like he should).
Because of this we should have many more centre clearances and, like last week, more i50s.
I fully expect to see Shuey rebound from his poor game last week and have a number of emphatic clearances this week.
Of course, even though all of the above sounds good in theory these things often play out quite differently come game day.

 

[truman]

Apart from McGovern missing we have no excuse not to have a comfortable win.
We should have a sizable advantage all over the ground.
It appears that Reid, Grundy and X Richards will be their key backs.
They'll be matched to Kennedy, Darling and resting ruckman respectively I would've thought.
But if they play that combination they will have lost a fair amount of rebound from defence.
Then, up forward, they'll have Franklin, Goodes and a resting ruckman.
These will probably be matched by Schofield, Sheppard and Barrass respectively.
Those match ups, by and large, favour us. I don't think Barrass is going to be exploited by Pyke or Nankervis is his first game.
In fact, he might actually be able to zone off them quite a bit to chop out the play McGovern-style.
Sheppard should be the perfect match up for an aging Goodes.
Franklin can always break Schofield's clutches but I think that comes down to the "web" not operating effectively.
Another aspect in our favour (and will affect the output of their forward line) is our dominance in the midfield.
Last week we squeezed Collingwood in the midfield when McGovern had gone off and kept them to two goals and a quarter and a half.
This week we will have a distinct advantage if Naitanui can dominate the ruck (like he should).
Because of this we should have many more centre clearances and, like last week, more i50s.
I fully expect to see Shuey rebound from his poor game last week and have a number of emphatic clearances this week.
Of course, even though all of the above sounds good in theory these things often play out quite differently come game day.

Apart from the fact that Sydney are still an amazing team that have been a bit off lately. Both Freo and Sydney maybe doing what we did in 2006, taking our foot of the peddle and it wasn't until Adelaide went in overwhelming favourites at Subi that we kicked back into gear.

If they nullify Naitanui they're midfield runs a bit deeper than us with proven performers year after year.