Unofficial Preview Changes vs GWS

[Magpie Since 1986]

I don't get the "West needs to put pressure on selection by dominating VFL " idea . That would make sense if we had functioning key forwards that were justifying their spot . The fact is there already is selection pressure on our key forwards as they aren't performing . In that case you may as well give West a go to see if he can do better than nothing which is what we are currently getting from the players we are selecting .

 

[cfc19902010]

Do we really know how much upside Buller has given he’s played 2 games in a completely new structure and game plan? Lots of people here, thought DC was a dud in his early years - new recruits need time to fit in and play well.
West is young he has plenty of time.

comment was more about how good I think west is not how bad Buller is

 

[stormskye]

I don't get the "West needs to put pressure on selection by dominating VFL " idea . That would make sense if we had functioning key forwards that were justifying their spot . The fact is there already is selection pressure on our key forwards as they aren't performing . In that case you may as well give West a go to see if he can do better than nothing which is what we are currently getting from the players we are selecting .

Why not play McCarthy then, or Howes? It’s been two games. It’s not panic stations

 

[Rorzza]

Wow-wee, double header this Friday! VFL at 2 pm and AFL at 6:40 pm.

 

[Magpie Since 1986]

Why not play McCarthy then, or Howes? It’s been two games. It’s not panic stations

If West fails id try them next , give each a few games in a row if the club thinks they are ready . West 1st as I assume the club believe he is the most physically ready given he got a game last year .

 

[stormskye]

If West fails id try them next , give each a few games in a row if the club thinks they are ready . West 1st as I assume the club believe he is the most physically ready given he got a game last year .

I’ve no issue with west playing btw, I just don’t agree with the not performing at vfl lvl point. Thankfully west has, and is one of the few.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

Seeing us at full strength and GWS with so many injuries makes me sooooo much more nervous about this game lol

Especially at Marvel

 

[Bianconeri]

Why not play McCarthy then, or Howes? It’s been two games. It’s not panic stations

Because none of them performed as well as West did in the VFL last season.

 

[nickyds35]

Why not play McCarthy then, or Howes? It’s been two games. It’s not panic stations

I think we all saw what West did in the VFL last year.

And understand, that he cant really do much less than what McStay, Membrey and Buller have produced this year.

 

[Peters_Nuts]

Seeing us at full strength and GWS with so many injuries makes me sooooo much more nervous about this game lol

Especially at Marvel

Haha I feel the same.

Pending any surprise injuries, there are genuinely no excuses if we lose this week to a team without their best two defenders, their best mid and potentially their second best key forward would feel like a disaster.

 

[No SPIN]

I don't get the "West needs to put pressure on selection by dominating VFL " idea . That would make sense if we had functioning key forwards that were justifying their spot . The fact is there already is selection pressure on our key forwards as they aren't performing . In that case you may as well give West a go to see if he can do better than nothing which is what we are currently getting from the players we are selecting .

We have a new fwd structure, and 2 games is nowhere near enough time to conclude it’s not functioning.
A confident West being selected after dominating in the VFL offers a much greater chance of him succeeding than selecting him against GWS - especially given he missed the last VFL practice match against Geel.

 

[stormskye]

Because none of them performed as well as West did in the VFL last season.

he asked why players needs vfl form for selection, I raised their names as reasons why

 

[nickyds35]

While I think West needs to play...

I would be more comfortable if West played along side experienced McStay, Membrey. Rather then having 2/3 unexpereinced talls.

 

[Bianconeri]

he asked why players needs vfl form for selection, I raised their names as reasons why

The names you mentioned need to VFL form. West doesn’t as he already showed what he can do at that level.

 

[The Magnificent Seven]

Do we really know how much upside Buller has given he’s played 2 games in a completely new structure and game plan? Lots of people here, thought DC was a dud in his early years - new recruits need time to fit in and play well.
West is young he has plenty of time.

West has hands like buckets whereas Buller so far gives the impression of one of those trampoline-style-catching-nets.

 

[Smackdos]

Good feeling today with Bob back as well as Jez and the skip back into full training.
We come up against a side that find themselves on the ropes with form and injuries concerns, on our home deck (sort of)
Let's go boys, go into the lions clash 2-1 up! its a big 2 game swing we lose both and 1-3 sounds alot diffrent than 2-2 or ideally 3-1.
Need our forwards to fire and find cohesion immediately.

 

[35Daicos]

I think there's a decent chance that Charlie West will be a winner for us down the track as a key forward, but to expect him to come into the side this week (when he won't have played a game for about four weeks) and fix our misfiring forward line is asking quite a lot! I'm amazed that so many people have him coming in this week, especially since he's been out for a bit, and I think they're obliged to give Buller and McStay a bit more time to (hopefully) get going. Even though West has proven himself at VFL level, in his one senior game he managed just the one kick. That debut game was against a team that won just one game last season, so he certainly hasn't proven himself at senior level yet!

I don't think they'll pick him for the senior game this week, but if he plays VFL and shows good form straight away he should be a chance to get a game soon enough. There just doesn't need to be a huge rush to get him into the side, and (the same applies to Steene) I'd rather he show something in the VFL this year before we promote him.

 

[granniewolf]

I think there's a decent chance that Charlie West will be a winner for us down the track as a key forward, but to expect him to come into the side this week (when he won't have played a game for about four weeks) and fix our misfiring forward line is asking quite a lot! I'm amazed that so many people have him coming in this week, especially since he's been out for a bit, and I think they're obliged to give Buller and McStay a bit more time to (hopefully) get going. Even though West has proven himself at VFL level, in his one senior game he managed just the one kick. That debut game was against a team that won just one game last season, so he certainly hasn't proven himself at senior level yet!

I don't think they'll pick him for the senior game this week, but if he plays VFL and shows good form straight away he should be a chance to get a game soon enough. There just doesn't need to be a huge rush to get him into the side, and (the same applies to Steene) I'd rather he show something in the VFL this year before we promote him.

Charlie did kick 2 goals in the North Melbourne practice game.

 

[Scodog10]

Seeing us at full strength and GWS with so many injuries makes me sooooo much more nervous about this game lol

Especially at Marvel

Don’t worry about personnel they’re going to challenge us at the coalface and on the outside regardless of who they put out there. I suspect they think they’ve had the edge over us physically since the 23 PF and go out of their way to dominate us each time. Getting Bedford, Daniel’s and Cadman back helps as well…

 

[35Daicos]

Charlie did kick 2 goals in the North Melbourne practice game.

Yes, but that was on March 1st, so there's almost a four week gap between that game and the one this Friday.

I think big Charlie is a terrific prospect, but consider it would be quite a risk throwing him in this week, when he might be underdone. And I don't see why there's such a hurry anyway! We do need our tall forwards to do a lot more than what they've done so far this year, but it's not like we're sitting at the bottom of the ladder! We're reasonably placed, and have a very 'winnable' game this week, against a team that will be without it's two best key defenders. If Buller and co. struggle again, while West stars in the VFL (if he does play at that level), maybe then they could think about making a change.

 

[Scodog10]

Yes, but that was on March 1st, so there's almost a four week gap between that game and the one this Friday.

I think big Charlie is a terrific prospect, but consider it would be quite a risk throwing him in this week, when he might be underdone. And I don't see why there's such a hurry anyway! We do need our tall forwards to do a lot more than what they've done so far this year, but it's not like we're sitting at the bottom of the ladder! We're reasonably placed, and have a very 'winnable' game this week, against a team that will be without it's two best key defenders. If Buller and co. struggle again, while West stars in the VFL (if he does play at that level), maybe then they could think about making a change.

I don’t know if he plays and if he does at whose expense, but with no Taylor or Buckley and Brisbane missing Andrews to follow you’ll be hard pressed finding a better window to get him integrated. IMO, if you think he’s the future I wouldn’t be letting match play decide it when they should be getting plenty of that work on the track anyway.

 

[35Daicos]

Wow-wee, double header this Friday! VFL at 2 pm and AFL at 6:40 pm.

It looks like it's a 3 pm start for the VFL game.

 

[UltraEgo]

definitely time to bring in West while they are missing Taylor

 

[35Daicos]

I don’t know if he plays and if he does at whose expense, but with no Taylor or Buckley and Brisbane missing Andrews to follow you’ll be hard pressed finding a better window to get him integrated. IMO, if you think he’s the future I wouldn’t be letting match play decide it when they should be getting plenty of that work on the track anyway.

I wouldn't pick West this week, and I just doubt that the club will either. I still want to see him kicking goals in a VFL game or two this year before we consider playing him, but also really want to see Buller come good, as it will be a bit of a setback if he doesn't measure up. I think if Membrey ends up going out of the side (at some stage) that won't be the end of the world, but Buller and McStay performing well enough is important.

 

[cfc19902010]

Seeing us at full strength and GWS with so many injuries makes me sooooo much more nervous about this game lol

Especially at Marvel

No guarantee moore plays
Bobby still unavailable
Reef arguable best 23