Prediction Changes vs Swans Round 5

[The Dodger]

Priddis got 1 brownlow vote that game...

and we lost the clearances 38 - 53

 

[nameless]

and we lost the clearances 38 - 53

Yes, Bird had 11 clearances

 

[The Dodger]

Yes, Bird had 11 clearances

Haha yes I saw that, and I must have been thinking of Parker that game as he played a monster.
Its funny though as Bird went to Priddis after Priddis got a bit of it in the 1st.

 

[Biggie]

Yes, Bird had 11 clearances

Wow

 

[The Falcon Strike]

hahaha
come on man he's the least versatile of all our mids to match up on those players

Blokes who weren't versatile

Tony Lockett
Darren Glass
Greg Williams


People love to point out the things Nic Naitanui can't do - ignoring those he does

Same holds true for many players, including priddis.

 

[Farang83150]

"To give away to good home": 1 x left nut if WC can get deadly accurate infront of goals!
Was it 2013 or 14 we couldnt hit a barn door?
Shits me to tears when we miss sitters and its happening on a regular basis.

 

[iLikeIt]

"To give away to good home": 1 x left nut if WC can get deadly accurate infront of goals

Reckon Cotchin might be interested. Although he needs a right one as well.

 

[kranky al]

Again this priddis debate is going into teams who defend their man at all costs and those who refuse to see any value.

He matches up incredibly well on some teams and is very damaging

He gets lots of possys with other teams without being as damaging

He seems to do sfa against hawthorn.

This is a matter for the wce coaching panel to figure out - hawthorn seem to have him sorted - can they get around this?

As it stands id have him play against all the other teams except the dogs, hawthorn, and the suns

With them id want to look into it more - i think if we sat him on sam mitchell he would do well. At least break even.

But to deny there is a problem at all is just exacerbating a problem that needs to be looked at, figured out and eliminated one way or another.

 

[Wadsworth]

"To give away to good home": 1 x left nut if WC can get deadly accurate infront of goals!
Was it 2013 or 14 we couldnt hit a barn door?
Shits me to tears when we miss sitters and its happening on a regular basis.

I am intrigued by this advertisement. I am on the lookout for a left nut as I'd feel much more comfortable betting mine if I had a spare. Unfortunately, I'm not sure I can offer a good home as I currently only have a two bedroom apartment in my undercarriage and both rooms are occupied by very good, long term tenants. Is a jar on the mantle piece considered a good home?

 

[flyinghi64]

Priddis in for Duggan, just think he will be given a rest especially against this midfield.
Giles for Lycett, most want to see big Fraser but I think Giles hasn't been travelling too bad and he seemed to go ok last week.
NicNat to take out another ruckman, hopefully Tippet early, as he really wants AA this year and what easier way than to take out any threats.

 

[iLikeIt]

He matches up incredibly well on some teams and is very damaging
He gets lots of possys with other teams without being as damaging

Agree with this. But there is a big difference between being not as good against some teams and not being B22. The question I have is, is Priddis at his absolute worst, still better than our next in line midfielder? If anyone can show me some evidence he is worse, then there is a valid debate to be had. If not, yes we can investigate why he may not have as much impact against some teams, but there is no debating he is still B22 regardless.

He seems to do sfa against hawthorn.

In fairness, pretty much our entire team do poorly against the Hawks at the 'G'. I think people have simplified it as we won against them at Domain without Priddis in the QF and lost against them with him at the 'G' twice now = Priddis is just woeful against the Hawks. But it's apples and oranges - imo our problem is clearly how we perform against them Away and not our personnel. Using the Richmond game as some form of evidence is ridiculous - they got beaten by Collingwood and almost lost to Carlton - far from a top team this year.

 

[kranky al]

Agree with this. But there is a big difference between being not as good against some teams and not being B22. The question I have is, is Priddis at his absolute worst, still better than our next in line midfielder? If anyone can show me some evidence he is worse, then there is a valid debate to be had. If not, yes we can investigate why he may not have as much impact against some teams, but there is no debating he is still B22 regardless.

In fairness, pretty much our entire team do poorly against the Hawks at the 'G'. I think people have simplified it as we won against them at Domain without Priddis in the QF and lost against them with him at the 'G' twice now = Priddis is just woeful against the Hawks. But it's apples and oranges - imo our problem is clearly how we perform against them Away and not our personnel. Using the Richmond game as some form of evidence is ridiculous - they got beaten by Collingwood and almost lost to Carlton - far from a top team this year.

We also lost to them at subi with priddis in the h and away. I cant remember that game well - anyone remember how he played

 

[domo]

Blokes who weren't versatile

Tony Lockett
Darren Glass
Greg Williams




People love to point out the things Nic Naitanui can't do - ignoring those he does

Same holds true for many players, including priddis.

The discussion was about our midfield match ups with the other Swans mids. So you don't think versatility is especially important for midfielders? The most damaging and best mids also kick goals, hunt and chase down fools, hit targets with both feet.

People love to point out the things Nic Naitanui can't do - ignoring those he does
Same holds true for many players, including priddis

You're right, but it doesn't hold true for Priddis and here is also the important difference:
Everyone so easily criticizes what Nic doesn't do based on what? Not just his Ruck skills or only his role as a ruckman. We're so ready to evaluate and measure him on the lofty scale of the modern game ruckman, who guess what.. is super versatile and has 2-3 exceptional footy attributes which often cross over into other positions. Nic is an exceptional footballer though and he's got those talents.

Can u say the same about Priddis ? He's never evaluated on the above "nik nat' terms. There's so much more he can't do which everyone so quickly disclaims out of and just accepts? Particularly in light of the best modern midfielders/centres and what they should bring to their game (see above). Who are also guess what - super versatile. And Priddis supposedly is our MVP centre mid player who we can't do without.

 

[iLikeIt]

We also lost to them at subi with priddis in the h and away. I cant remember that game well - anyone remember how he played

Yep. We lost 88 to 74. Missing Naitanui Lycett played well but he's no NN. Gov got injured. Our core midfield (Prid, Boots, Gaff) did well I thought. Hutchings played as well and was good.

Darling, Yeo, and Sheed were pretty terrible. Notice a pattern there perhaps?

 

[The wily weagle]

Something about Giles suggests to me that he is the type of guy who would half kill himself out there at the SCG if he were given an opportunity.


He wasn't terrible in the pre-season either against Sam Jacobs too btw

 

[The Falcon Strike]

? The most damaging and best mids also kick goals, hunt and chase down fools, hit targets with both feet.

I can't count the number of times Sam Mitchell has run down opponents and snagged goals. I can't keep up. If you're assessment is that Priddis isn't as good as Mitchell, Dangerfield, Ablett, Fyfe - try and find someone who disagrees with you. If you're assertion is that Priddis isn't AFL standard - find someone to agree with you.

The most valuable footballers (including mids) are those that can't take the ball from a contested situation to an uncontested situation in your team's advantage. Judd did it with his fleet footedness and then his brute strength, Fyfe with Bulk, Pendlebury with spatial awareness, Ablett because he is god, Dangerfield with Power.

Priddis does it with unerring work ethic and knack of being in the right place more often than not. He isn't a game breaker, but his last year and half have been elite. He has become more and more damaging by foot - mainly because he limits his kicks to 25m. If Priddis couldn't extract the ball regularly - I wouldn't have him in the side, but he does with regularity. So I choose to look at what players can do, not just at what they can't

 

[avishka5]

Again this priddis debate is going into teams who defend their man at all costs and those who refuse to see any value.

He matches up incredibly well on some teams and is very damaging

He gets lots of possys with other teams without being as damaging

He seems to do sfa against hawthorn.

This is a matter for the wce coaching panel to figure out - hawthorn seem to have him sorted - can they get around this?

As it stands id have him play against all the other teams except the dogs, hawthorn, and the suns

With them id want to look into it more - i think if we sat him on sam mitchell he would do well. At least break even.

But to deny there is a problem at all is just exacerbating a problem that needs to be looked at, figured out and eliminated one way or another.

in theory its sounds ok but our midfield is still our Achilles heal but without priddis, all hawks, suns and dogs must do is sit someone of shuey and its game over for us. Redden is still long way off being a consistent match winner and shuey still gets affected by tags. Then our next in line inside players are yeo, sheed and hutchings. All three of them are inexperienced or young.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Despite my 3.30am post which I now regret, this really doesn't need to turn into a Priddis thread.

He'll play, fitness permitting. The question is who makes way.

 

[kranky al]

in theory its sounds ok but our midfield is still our Achilles heal but without priddis, all hawks, suns and dogs must do is sit someone of shuey and its game over for us. Redden is still long way off being a consistent match winner and shuey still gets affected by tags. Then our next in line inside players are yeo, sheed and hutchings. All three of them are inexperienced or young.

This argument had merit before we played a few games without priddis and were a younger team - the more game we play without him and win the less efficacious it is.

Weve won our last 3 without him. Its not something id point at and say game over - not even close. But it cartainly bears looking at.

 

[avishka5]

This argument had merit before we played a few games without priddis and were a younger team - the more game we play without him and win the less efficacious it is.

Weve won our last 3 without him. Its not something id point at and say game over - not even close. But it cartainly bears looking at.

priddis was late out in both games. So theres not much reshuffling to do. If teams work out thats its a trend for us not to play priddis against the teams they listed above. They put a ton of work into shuey and hence run a way with the game.

 

[Trouto]

Despite my 3.30am post which I now regret, this really doesn't need to turn into a Priddis thread.

He'll play, fitness permitting. The question is who makes way.

You silly, silly man. Look what you started!

 

[Number37]

Midfield Match Ups will test us

Parker V Yeo
Hanneybury V Shuey
Jack V Priddis
Kennedy V Gaff
Mitchell V Redden

On paper their midfield is bigger and more dominant but we have to match up and try and at least break even

who takes Heeney? that is the concern that I have Yeo would be a perfect option has he can match him in the Air and at ground level. Otherwise the other option is Sheppard to wear him like a glove.

Mitchell is most likely to play on Priddis.
Doubt Parker will play on Yeo. Perhaps Cunningham will run with him.

 

[kranky al]

priddis was late out in both games. So theres not much reshuffling to do. If teams work out thats its a trend for us not to play priddis against the teams they listed above. They put a ton of work into shuey and hence run a way with the game.

Yeah nah - who do they tag now?

Shueys been copping the tag for years now - not priddis.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

Yeah nah - who do they tag now?

Shueys been copping the tag for years now - not priddis.

Clubs have been tagging Smith over Mitchell.

 

[avishka5]

Mitchell is most likely to play on Priddis.
Doubt Parker will play on Yeo. Perhaps Cunningham will run with him.

yeo will most likley play a negating role on parker. Yeo is still very new to the inside midfield role and so does get lost on occasions. Yeo played a really good game on fyfe and kept fyfe's output down tilll 3qt but even still fyfes impact wasn't as great as his numbers suggested.