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Past Chris Yarran

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BluesRule said:
Reminder of Yaz value

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Look im a Yarran fan but even the most die hard Carlton supporters will admit that he just doesnt do enough of the good things he does consistantly and they are few and far between.

The last 2 years Yarran has had more down games than up games and in his 7 years at the club he has finished just 10th and 4th in his clubs best and fairest where carlton have been not so strong.

I love his pace and his skill set but im extremely concerned about both his aplication and work ethic and players which have issue's whith these 2 parts of their games rarely are better at any club they go to. Chris Yarran is a massive gamble for any club which takes him.
Sure the upside is huge but the chances of that happening are fairly low.

I actually would like him at Richmond but at a reasonable cost and the way he has presented and performed of late isnt a 1st rounder for me any more
I hope the new coach has an influence and he remains a carlton player as he is worth more to carlton than other teams as im thinking carlton supporters will be dissapointed with what is actually offered up for yarran and we are all guilty of over rating our own players until they get traded

I was totally against trading for Hampson and thought we over paid for him but remember these same things being said at the time about him and that he was worth more etc etc but soon as the deal was done most carlton supporters were over the moon with the result and richmond fans were dissapointed and turns out that the leopard hasnt changed his spots and was only ever worth the 3rd rounder based on 7 years of form
 
Mezzoculo said:
Not sure an injury prone 25 year old, 42 gamer with little exposed form at senior level is someone the club would be after.
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I would say that is exactly the type of player we are wont to pursue. But all this Yarran is only worth a second rounder talk has given me the grumps so take no notice.
 

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Well if you believe the media, interest in Yarran is coming in thick and fast from multiple parties, Richmond are the most interested and several club officials met with him. You surely don't do that if you think you are picking up a player from the bargain basement bin.
 
The Old Dark Navy's said:
Well if you believe the media, interest in Yarran is coming in thick and fast from multiple parties, Richmond are the most interested and several club officials met with him. You surely don't do that if you think you are picking up a player from the bargain basement bin.
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Yeah, this is the thing that I can't square with some of the trade hypotheticals being proposed by opposition supporters. Like any market, a player's value depends upon his perceived value by all prospective buyers, not just one. If he was on the nose a la Garlett or Robbo then I could understand why folk suggest Carlton take unders for a contracted and highly talented player. However, that is clearly not the case.
 
Mezzoculo said:
Yeah, this is the thing that I can't square with some of the trade hypotheticals being proposed by opposition supporters. Like any market, a player's value depends upon his perceived value by all prospective buyers, not just one. If he was on the nose a la Garlett or Robbo then I could understand why folk suggest Carlton take unders for a contracted and highly talented player. However, that is clearly not the case.
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Geelong traded pick 21 for Rhys Stanley, not on the basis of his 2014 output, when he spent time in the VFL, but on what they perceived he could offer in the right environment. The same will apply with any trade for Yaz. Some of the trade hypotheticals being put forward by opposition supporters are either wishful thinking, or blatant trolling.
 
Mezzoculo said:
Yeah, this is the thing that I can't square with some of the trade hypotheticals being proposed by opposition supporters. Like any market, a player's value depends upon his perceived value by all prospective buyers, not just one. If he was on the nose a la Garlett or Robbo then I could understand why folk suggest Carlton take unders for a contracted and highly talented player. However, that is clearly not the case.
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Totally agree. Have been listening to radio and reading the posts on here from people like The Gun (a very measured poster) and everyone is trying to talk Yarran down.

Yes he appears on the outer at Carlton but like Fevola no one deny's the guy can seriously play - he has Norm Smith Medallist written all over him.

Whilst they try and talk down his value, I reckon Richmond are 'creaming' themselves over the prospect of picking up a player like Yarran. The way I see it we have at least four clubs that would be interested in recruiting Yarran - Richmond, Hawthorn,West Coast and Adelaide and maybe throw in Freo and Sydney if allowed to trade.

Therefore we hopefully have a bidding war !! It's easy to posture now and say he's not worth a top pick but if we have a side who just misses a flag or a just misses a Grand Final they might be falling over themselves to add some class like Yarran to the team.

Given he is contracted I can't see why we can't at least get a first round (i.e <= Pick 18) and possibly more. In a supposedly weak draft why would you let him go for only a 2nd rounder - just doesn't make sense ???

If not, I reckon the Blues will be prepared to back in a new coach like Bolton for 12 months to start afresh, clear the decks with Yarran and get him back enjoying his footy at Carlton.
 
Our big problem is that Yarran is likely to choose his favoured destination which as we know, severely limits our leverage.
 
Mezzoculo said:
Well, he is also contracted.
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Of course. Our leverage is unders at Richmond for argument's sake or we'll keep you. When there are other suitors who may offer more, that's an unacceptable reduction of options. It may be another club trying to bluff us. Either way, if they aren't close to what another club might offer, they are playing hard ball and deserve no consideration from us.

I'd take #17 and Brown from WCE all day long rather than a second rounder and a fringe player from Richmond.
 

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thylacine60 said:
Would we take Yarran?
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Would we take a player from another club that is not currently in form?

I reckon we've got some history in that regard yes.
 
thylacine60 said:
What would we give?
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Let's see Brock McLean - Pick 5 in 2003. 6 years later we give up Pick 11 for him after a so-so year where averaged 19 disposals and lost 6 games through injury. One paced midfielder who wasn't even a much needed in and under player.

Chris Yarran - Pick 6 in 2009. 6 years later, after a year where he injury wasn't a factor but attitude was ... pacy, good skills, line breaker .... at least Pick 12.

That's us though.
 
So have I read correctly that Yarran himself has spoken to Richmond?

Isn't it against AFL policy to speak to a contracted or uncontracted player mid season?
 
HalAlaric said:
So have I read correctly that Yarran himself has spoken to Richmond?

Isn't it against AFL policy to speak to a contracted or uncontracted player mid season?
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can chat, but can't enter any contracts.

already floated that the calls for 2nd rounders for henderson/yarran would come. we've robbed the bank if we get first rounders for both of them. in their current form, in other teams... i don't think many posters would want to give up first rounders.
 

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dumb said:
can chat, but can't enter any contracts.

already floated that the calls for 2nd rounders for henderson/yarran would come. we've robbed the bank if we get first rounders for both of them. in their current form, in other teams... i don't think many posters would want to give up first rounders.
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They are both first rounders and have both shown they can play. Both will enhance a good team. Not keen to lose either but if we must, then we need first round picks. How else can SOS apply a GWSque strategy:thumbsu:
 
BluesRule said:
They are both first rounders and have both shown they can play. Both will enhance a good team. Not keen to lose either but if we must, then we need first round picks. How else can SOS apply a GWSque strategy:thumbsu:
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i think we'd have to send something reasonable back if we want 1st round picks for either of them. clearly neither are at peak form, not a guaranteed return on investment. and henderson has been average for nigh on 2 years now.
 
HalAlaric said:
So have I read correctly that Yarran himself has spoken to Richmond?

Isn't it against AFL policy to speak to a contracted or uncontracted player mid season?
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I believe you can't talk directly to the player. Damian Barrett emphatically insists several Richmond officials have met with and spoken directly to Yarran.
 

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