Just another rule the clubs will exploit heading into your bye week.
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News Coaches' concussion worry sparks push for 23rd player
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If its not concussion, there needs to be a real penalty if a club abuses the rule or mandatory 2 weeks off. Also if they a caught abusing the rule. game forfeit. No ifs, no buts.
Or no subs injury subs after half time. Concussion ok, injury. No. Stop you just subbing out guys who are a bit tired.
Jack Reiwoldt last night on 360 said straight up the clubs would abuse the rule and there needed to be safeguards.
Or no subs injury subs after half time. Concussion ok, injury. No. Stop you just subbing out guys who are a bit tired.
Jack Reiwoldt last night on 360 said straight up the clubs would abuse the rule and there needed to be safeguards.
Gotta feel for the kid who comes off with a niggle halfway through the third qtr and hasn't racked up many touches.
Your subbed out, don't worry about next week you were getting dropped anyway for returning superstar.
Your subbed out, don't worry about next week you were getting dropped anyway for returning superstar.
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I think clubs should have spotters like the NFL. When they spot an incident, they evaluate the incident. There should as you suggested be big penalties for people exploiting the rule. I think one way of combatting this is to not allow any communication between the coaching staff and the medical expert. The decision needs to be free from the coaches.
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Subbed players should be forced to miss two games if subbed off, to prevent misuse and abuse.
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Doesn't work that way, you can't put it back in the box.
Players will still run similar distances to what they were doing over the last 5 years. The 80's and 90's football isn't coming back.
I'm not expecting to go back to that, but reducing rotations more dramatically would improve the game.
It is also trying to exploit effectively rotating more players through the interchange bench so they can maintain congestion as much as possible.
This too. Another example of AFL not thinking things through and pandering to the wants of coaches.
Makes a mockery of a lot of things.
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My guess is it would do the opposite. Players would be selected based on running capacity. Would be just as much defensive zoning, with lower skills.
That's not necessarily fair on the injured player who might legitimately be injured but recover after week. I reckon it will still be abused in any event. Must win games where a team might roll the dice in the second half of a game, Willie Riolli's first game back following suspension..
Subbed players should have been used via the players already on the interchange bench. That was the whole point of interchange bench in first place to have players to replace injured players out of the game. Coaches have abused it and now wanting to make a mockery of the whole reason it was brought into the game in the first place. It is meant to be 18 v 18 players. Not 23 v 23
this too
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Typical Gil, kowtowing to the coaches because he doesn't want to rock the boat. Pathetic.
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Why not just have an extra bench player if 4 substitutes aren't enough to cover an injury, why give coaches a chance to take an unfair tactical advantage...
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To be eligible for a medical substitution, the club doctor must decide that an injured player will be unable to play a game in the next 12 days.
Club doctors must provide the AFL with a medical certificate on the first working day after the match as evidence the substituted player sustained the injury.
Any club found to be breaking the medical substitute rule can be sanctioned "for conduct unbecoming, or prejudicial to the interests or reputation of the AFL, or to bring the game of football into disrepute".
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The whole thing hinges on what they classify as 'breaking the substitute rule' and what the punishment is.
Club doctors must provide the AFL with a medical certificate on the first working day after the match as evidence the substituted player sustained the injury.
Any club found to be breaking the medical substitute rule can be sanctioned "for conduct unbecoming, or prejudicial to the interests or reputation of the AFL, or to bring the game of football into disrepute".
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The whole thing hinges on what they classify as 'breaking the substitute rule' and what the punishment is.
'Sanctions'. There you go. No wiggle room there.
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the thing that irks me about a "23rd" man is the fact that, 'injuries' was the reason we went from 19th man to 20th man as reserves which was then used again to justify turning the 2 reserves into interchange, and then that wasnt enough, because the coaches then argued that if there was an injury one team would be disadvantaged so we went to 3 on the bench to resolve that, but then the coaches argued that if there was an injury that would affect rotations and one team would be disadvantaged so we went to 4 on the bench so that we could allow for injuries etc, and now with 4 on the bench we say we need a 23rd man because if theres an injury that might disadvantage one side..... and you know as night follows day, the next argument will be to allow the sub on even if there isnt an injury (because it can liven up games), and then it will just become 5 on the bench... and then coaches will argue 'what if there's an injury?" and ask for an extra sub.
Its the same justification every single time; and yet for over 100 years we coped very nicely with 2 on the bench and 20-30 interchanges at most (usually less). But somehow, no, thats impossible now. Why is it impossible all of a sudden? Didnt players get tired 30 years ago? Didnt players get injured 30 years ago? I dont care about the lateness of the decision, I care (ie resent) the AFL falling yet again for the Coaches disingenuously pushing for rule changes that simply are not necessary and will damage the way the game is played.
Club doctors must write medical certificates when a player is subbed out, so it needs to be a genuine injury otherwise the doctor risks being charged with fraud and losing his medical license, not worth it.
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I think before finals the AFL will introduce a subs sub. If the sub gets injured, the subs sub comes on. Why? because we want to see the best players possible
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Tassie Cats hmmm.....
Hawks 2012-15 played two rucks and swapped one out for a runner if there were no injuries. yet another reason you can dis our greatness
FWIW i'd play 5 on the bench, but two of them take a shower and dress at half time
FWIW i'd play 5 on the bench, but two of them take a shower and dress at half time
