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Weagles will win this one easily, they are brimming with confidence and have no fear of the Gabba. Matera will also surely kick it into gear at some point soon and I'm guessing it'll be this weekend!
 
Not making any predictions.

I'd be happy just to get away with a win and no injuries.

Trash talk is for the rash and the naive.
 
Voss and Lappin back in, Gardiner and Kerr coming back!

Should be a corker!!

However, eagles by 30 plus!!
 
Jimthegreat said:
Sometimes it depends when and how you catch a side. The last 2 years the eagles have "caught" Brisbane at the right time.........on a downer in Brisbane, and when they "can't be bothered" working hard after the long trip to Perth.
Surely the Lions are as vulnerable as ever as the moment. Their forward line is looking impotent with Bradshaw as their only key forward and their midfield is badly underdone.

Lappin and Voss will play but will be less than 100%. The injury to Charman will allow Cox to have another day out in the ruck. In recent times we've been able to match up them through the midfield extremely well. At the moment we have more depth and for the first time in years, the Lions have a handful of guys in their side who aren't up for it.

Eagles by 10 points.
 
nice one eddie smith. Dont tell me you STILL are fuming about your consecutive grand final loss to bag brisbane so much? Mate they are a solid unit, they will win against west coast this week. The eagles are good but the lions are gonna give it to em. I am just putting it down as you being a typical collingwood supporter, the following typify you:
a. Jealous about defeats at the hands of brisbane in 2002/2003 grand final
b. sour about your poor form to date
c. still think buckley will win a flag for the club
d. no ruckman
e. poor recruiting
f. try and buy everyhting with all your cash to get a article in the sun
g. struggling club
h. coach wants out
best thing for your mob is to finish on the bottom and get a good pick. even then wyou would still stuff it up
 
Hasus said:
If West Coast win, I guarantee you they will win the flag..
You're an idiot.

Apart from making an outlandish statement, you make no effort to justify it.

Why would anyone think about your comment for more than a second? Why would you bother posting this?
 
Cosmic Starchild said:
Surely the Lions are as vulnerable as ever as the moment. Their forward line is looking impotent with Bradshaw as their only key forward and their midfield is badly underdone.

Lappin and Voss will play but will be less than 100%. The injury to Charman will allow Cox to have another day out in the ruck. In recent times we've been able to match up them through the midfield extremely well. At the moment we have more depth and for the first time in years, the Lions have a handful of guys in their side who aren't up for it.

Eagles by 10 points.
They are at their most vulnerable but give a champion side a sting in the tail, as the lions got last week, and such embarrassment could reaaly lift them, even for one week. You've done well against them recenly but I'm sure if the 2 sides had met in a final over the last 2 years Brisbane could've realy killed the eagles. Anyway, as you say, Brissie are vulnerable now but, maybe not this week. Any other week I may have tipped the eagles.
 

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Jimthegreat said:
They are at their most vulnerable but give a champion side a sting in the tail, as the lions got last week, and such embarrassment could reaaly lift them, even for one week.
I thought getting overrun by the Swans at home would have been a fair sting in the tail. Yet they turned around and got smashed by the wooden spoon favourites.

How does your "rebound logic" explain that?

Could it be that Brisbane have a genuine personnel shortage at the moment and it's not entirely mental?
 
Some teams win games

Some teams win premierships.




Whatever the result this weekend, this fact doesnt change.

Cant wait for the contest, whoever wins it's going to be a great game.
 
Rawhead said:
Some teams win games

Some teams win premierships.
And your point is?

Are you saying that because you've won more flags recently this individual result doesn't matter?

Everyone knows Brisbane won three in a row. Why would you bring this up for the sake of it? It seems pretty irrelevant in this discussion.
 
Cosmic Starchild said:
And your point is?

Are you saying that because you've won more flags recently this individual result doesn't matter?

Everyone knows Brisbane won three in a row. Why would you bring this up for the sake of it? It seems pretty irrelevant in this discussion.

I guess the relevance is that West Coast havent yet shown they know how to win a final. Nothing at all against Wet Coast, there is much to admire in their game, only that their ability to stand up under pressure needs some work.

In regards to the next game, I think they are going to be under a lot of pressure from Brisbane, and although stats show West Coast to be clear favorites going into the match, I can see a strong possibility that Brisbane will intimidate them into submission.

I tip Brisbane.
 
Rawhead said:
I guess the relevance is that West Coast havent yet shown they know how to win a final. Nothing at all against Wet Coast, there is much to admire in their game, only that their ability to stand up under pressure needs some work.
How many finals did Brisbane win before 2001?
Rawhead said:
In regards to the next game, I think they are going to be under a lot of pressure from Brisbane, and although stats show West Coast to be clear favorites going into the match, I can see a strong possibility that Brisbane will intimidate them into submission.
A strong possiblity? Based on what? These factors have all been in place before and we've kicked your asses. Brisbane should surely have been able to "intimidate" us on previous occasions, but have failed. Why should this weekend be different?

You guys are vulnerable at the moment and you won't be able to rely on your midfield to get the edge they do against other sides.
 
Rawhead said:
I guess the relevance is that West Coast havent yet shown they know how to win a final. Nothing at all against Wet Coast, there is much to admire in their game, only that their ability to stand up under pressure needs some work.

In regards to the next game, I think they are going to be under a lot of pressure from Brisbane, and although stats show West Coast to be clear favorites going into the match, I can see a strong possibility that Brisbane will intimidate them into submission.

I tip Brisbane.
I am quite sure West Coast wont be intimidated like some other sides ie St.Kilda.Worsfold would be telling them not to get sucked into anything and just play their normal game which has been successful so far this season and they should be able to win.
 

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Cosmic Starchild said:
How many finals did Brisbane win before 2001?A strong possiblity? Based on what? These factors have all been in place before and we've kicked your asses. Brisbane should surely have been able to "intimidate" us on previous occasions, but have failed. Why should this weekend be different?

You guys are vulnerable at the moment and you won't be able to rely on your midfield to get the edge they do against other sides.

It takes a team a while to gain the sort of confidence needed to win a final. West Coast will get there, whether it is this year, or next (which personally I think is the more likely).

Lethal plays a numbers game when it comes to matches, he is a very smart tactician. Not saying they dont play to win every game, only that the preparation is different depending on how the fixtures for the season are sorted. Basically Lethal plans for finals, while it is yet to be seen wether West Coast are going to run themselves thin come end of year.

Recent losses mean that Brisbanes preparation will adapt, and previous losses to West Coast also means lethal is well prepared to counter West Coast's game plan.

I also dont see our midfield being vunerable in the slightest, still looks pretty good on paper to me. What we are missing is a strong marking CHF.

Obviously this is just my opinion.
 
Rawhead said:
In regards to the next game, I think they are going to be under a lot of pressure from Brisbane, and although stats show West Coast to be clear favorites going into the match, I can see a strong possibility that Brisbane will intimidate them into submission.
I just don't see the logic here. We smashed you by 70 points at the GABBA in 2003 and won by 4 goals at the GABBA last year.

Were we intimidated on those occasions? God knows you were travelling much better leading up to those games than you are at the moment.

Can you give me a logical answer instead of wishful thinking?
 
Mead said:
This is probably the worst week in the season to take on brisbane, they'll be angry and hurting, and I think everyone knows how good teams react.

I'm reasonably confident, because a.) we have a good record at the gabba, and b.) a couple of very big ins- Kerr and Gardiner will probably be back this week.

IMO, the game of the round, can't wait for this one.

Mead i totally agree brisbane will be fired up after 3 losses in a row and i am also expecting it to be a tough test for the Eagles... But with Gardiiner and Kerr expected to come back into the side i think that will be enough to get us over the line...

Easily the MATCH OF THE ROUND!!!

Eagles by 8 points :D
 
Rawhead said:
Lethal plays a numbers game when it comes to matches, he is a very smart tactician. Not saying they dont play to win every game, only that the preparation is different depending on how the fixtures for the season are sorted. Basically Lethal plans for finals, while it is yet to be seen wether West Coast are going to run themselves thin come end of year.

Recent losses mean that Brisbanes preparation will adapt, and previous losses to West Coast also means lethal is well prepared to counter West Coast's game plan.
This is nonsensical waffle.

Leigh Matthews can't win you the game, and at the moment, you have serious personnel problems for the first time in years.
 
Cosmic Starchild said:
I just don't see the logic here. We smashed you by 70 points at the GABBA in 2003 and won by 4 goals at the GABBA last year.

Were we intimidated on those occasions? God knows you were travelling much better leading up to those games than you are at the moment.

Can you give me a logical answer instead of wishful thinking?

Different time, different conditions, different teams. Brisbane weren't under as much pressure to smash West Coast as they are going to be playing them this weekend, that is a cruical factor.

What happened against Carlton in the Wizard cup grandfinal? West Coast lost it under pressure. What I logically think will happen is that Brisbane will force errors upon West Coast and will win, albiet by a close margin.

Feel free to pull this thread up after the game and laugh at me if the situation requires, but this is how I see it.
 
West Coast are one of the only teams who aren't intimidated by the Lions (along with Sydney). IIRC the first bounce last year at the Gabba, Sampi was in at the centre bounce and smashed Power straight away(I think it was Power?). The Eagles can match it with Brisbane physically especially with no J Brown. Lets talk matchups-
I think Stinger will take Black as he has really carved us up in the past and would be their most damaging player. Voss (if he plays) will be taken by Chick, Chicky gave him a bath last year. Last year Braun took Aker but Aker was playing in the midfeild and he could be playing up forward this year. Brauny killed him last year anyways. Glass should take Bradshaw as he is their main forward option and I expect Quinten assuming he plays, to take the resting ruckman up forward (Keating). Should be some great 1 on 1 duels.
I think we'll get up just for the fact that we have caught them down on men again (no Brown is a huge advantage for us) like the last few times we played. Should be a great game. Eagles by under 2 goals.
 

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