Collingwood and Richmond - who has the greater supporter base

Who has the greater supporter base?


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Banana Bread

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Well you prove the fact that Richmond is the biggest time and again, yet Geelong and Collingwood supporters keep arguing the toss that the biggest club isn't the biggest.
Look I understand you're utterly obsessed with the Tigers, but Geelong and Collingwood, desperate to measure their dicks against ours several times a week gets a bit boring. In fact, we find you a bit pathetic. I mean how many more times do we need to humiliate you before you start to get bored too?
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Ouch!

I hope Norf didn't hurt their private parts when they went in dry on Friday night.
 

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Saveloy Rockstar

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Well you prove repeat the fact lie that Richmond is the biggest time and again (and again, and again, without any evidence to support it, unless it's totally cherry-picked to suit us), yet Collingwood supporters keep arguing the toss that the biggest club isn't the biggest. bringing up these pesky "facts" which show we aren't and making us look stupid. I mean more stupider :(
FTFY
 

Craze

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^ And that's the only way you can ever "win" this argument, by cherry-picking exactly what you want to include: only Home games and only 2019 YTD and only average attendance - which is meaningless in answering Who has the greater supporter base?

FTR: 2019 Home game opponents
Collingwood (6): Geelong, WCE, Dogs, Port, St. Kilda, Freo
Richmond (5): Collingwood, Swans, Melbourne, Hawks, Essendon

So we played 2 Melbourne teams who rank 9th and 13th for attendance in 2019, and you play 4 Melbourne teams who rank 1st (that's us by the way), 3rd, 7th & 10th and THAT is your idea of a comparison? LOL what a campaigner you are, friend




Even if you cherry-pick again and get rid of the pre-2013 results (which excludes our Premiership while including yours), you STILL lose:

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If you make a more reasonable comparison and include our last Premiership as well as yours, it's back to +21% (same as vs. the expansion teams):

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You guys should just quit while you're behind... even when you win your first Premiership in 37 YEARS you can't break 1.4m attendance - Collingwood has done that 4 times this decade and will probably do it again this year to make it EVERY OTHER YEAR on average. Minnows
You've included finals attendances?

I've addressed many of these points in earlier posts. Won't be repeating myself. Although your efforts are better than gopies1981
 

Saveloy Rockstar

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You've included finals attendances?
Dude I gave you the exact years you wanted, 2013-2019 YTD, including your flag minor premiership and excluding ours.

Do you really think removing finals is going to somehow increase your average attendances over that period? 2017 is the only year you were significantly ahead of us on that metric.

Easy enough to do it if you want to go to footywire.com and check for yourself
 

Saveloy Rockstar

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^ I just checked the Almanac... 2013-2018 finals played:

Collingwood 5
Richmond 6

Yeah that’s definitely an unfair advantage to us and totally skewing the results in our favour :rollseyes:
 

Craze

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Dude I gave you the exact years you wanted, 2013-2019 YTD, including your flag minor premiership and excluding ours.

Do you really think removing finals is going to somehow increase your average attendances over that period? 2017 is the only year you were significantly ahead of us on that metric.

Easy enough to do it if you want to go to footywire.com and check for yourself
Actually it does change the outcome if you add finals. The point I made earlier is left unaddressed. Richmond were Carlton-like sh*thouse from ‘87-‘13, which definitely skews crowd numbers (as the Blues are now experiencing)
 

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Saveloy Rockstar

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Richmond were Carlton-like sh*thouse from ‘87-‘13, which definitely skews crowd numbers (as the Blues are now experiencing)
... and that’s one of the reasons why you don’t have the biggest supporter base

That’s still the thread topic, right? Not who draws bigger crowds when they’re top of the ladder.

Attendances, which Collingwood beat you in pretty much every recent year except 2017, are just one measure of support base
 

smasha

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Collingwood have never been through the lows Richmond have.

They had a 4 peat also early in the club’s life which would have started the supporter base rolling.

Richmond have done it the hard way!
 

Saveloy Rockstar

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Actually it does change the outcome if you add finals. The point I made earlier is left unaddressed. Richmond were Carlton-like sh*thouse from ‘87-‘13, which definitely skews crowd numbers (as the Blues are now experiencing)
OK friend, here you are, excluding finals:

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Whether you want to look at the last 4 years, 7 years or 10 years - Pies win. Even the 2 years during and after winning your first flag in 137 years (and backing it up with the minor premiership) you could barely pull more punters
 

Craze

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Saveloy Rockstar

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And you accounted for the fact that Pies get two public holidays?
LOL. I exclude our flag and post-flag years, include your flag and minor premiership years, and you complain about public holidays? Just so you can *maybe* draw level on attendances?

As I said before - the only way you can win it is if you gerrymander, handicap and compensate your way around it - like when your fellow Tugger wanted to only count Home games in the current season

If you were truly the biggest sporting club in the country, you wouldn't need to do that
 

Saveloy Rockstar

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The only stats Tiggers are interested in is memberships, because that’s the only one that supports their delusion. Any other stat has to be adjusted, compensated, corrected and have an asterisk appended because it shows the truth

You’re like the pussycats fans who want to count their under 19s flags so they can join the big league
 

Grin

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The only stats Tiggers are interested in is memberships, because that’s the only one that supports their delusion. Any other stat has to be adjusted, compensated, corrected and have an asterisk appended because it shows the truth

You’re like the pussycats fans who want to count their under 19s flags so they can join the big league
And game attendance. Largest drawing club in recent years, the Tigers.
Facebook surveys apparently trump membership and attendance according to insecure Collingwood supporters.
 
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