Opinion Commentary & Media II

[ferball]

Lol. It can't be denied, we are the AFL's "chip on the shoulder" supporter base. You gotta love it or... If we didn't exist, they'd have to invent us. Everybody plays their role - supporters, media, etc. Every team plays their own particular part in the AFL. Think about it. This is our lot. We either embrace it or support another team.


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Yeah.

**** 'em!

 

[adrenalinjunkie]

Yeah, this always gets me. For people with a public profile, how they choose to use it is a major part of who they are. Newman knows he's emboldening legions of slack-jawed devotees to unleash their ugliest instincts, which is much more relevant to "who he really is" than whether he's engaging company off camera.

It's what also shat me about that show Annabel Crabb used to have with the cooking. Scott Morrison whips up a mean ragu, never mind that he deliberately instituted the cruellest refugee detention regime he could get away with pour encourager les autres. The ragu is ******* irrelevant. Here's Bill Shorten, he turnstiled through a bunch of unnecessary warrantless surveillance that affects every Australian every day and caved to the coppers' wildest ambit claim, but hey check out this pavlova!

Onanists.

Very well put, Rob.

I'm relieved that you were "only" getting into Scott Morrison, though.

At the start of your second paragraph, I thought "Oh no, what horror story about Annabel am I about to read that will shatter my illusions forever?".

 

[Deleted member 98541]

Hehe Le Grille wore one.

Lucky they didnt go full CNN and Dox you. Lol

And dont get me started on miss monotone. You shouldve doubled down Le Grille and told her she's only gettin a gig cos she a woman!

Wouldve made skankhunt42 proud

 

[Deleted member 98541]

I know you've got the photoshop penis down pat Le Grille

U durty troll u

 

[Le Grille]

Hehe Le Grille wore one.

Lucky they didnt go full CNN and Dox you. Lol

And dont get me started on miss monotone. You shouldve doubled down Le Grille and told her she's only gettin a gig cos she a woman!

Wouldve made skankhunt42 proud

Oh ****, I don't even have an issue with Daisy, and she ****ing bagged me.

I hope the club appreciate my fighting the fight for em.

 

[Le Grille]

I know you've got the photoshop penis down pat Le Grille

U durty troll u

Nothing photoshopped here, Im hung like a mosquito.

 

[RobZombie]

Very well put, Rob.

I'm relieved that you were "only" getting into Scott Morrison, though.

At the start of your second paragraph, I thought "Oh no, what horror story about Annabel am I about to read that will shatter my illusions forever?".

If you want a little light bagging of Annabel, this might do:
http://andrewelder.blogspot.com.au/2015/11/kitchen-cabinet-unvarnished.html?_sm_au_=i0VrZMSRPwv50nZ5

FWIW, I find her relentless perkiness and determination to be lightweight a waste of talent.

 

[Le Grille]

If you want a little light bagging of Annabel, this might do:
http://andrewelder.blogspot.com.au/2015/11/kitchen-cabinet-unvarnished.html?_sm_au_=i0VrZMSRPwv50nZ5

FWIW, I find her relentless perkiness and determination to be lightweight a waste of talent.

I agree, she is among one of the more knowledgeable political journos in oz but wants to do quirky fun shows.

 

[Snake_Baker]

FWIW, I find her relentless perkiness and determination to be lightweight a waste of talent.

If she flounced up to my door with her picanic basket she would be getting a severe spanking and a vigorous seeing to.

 

[RobZombie]

If she flounced up to my door with her picanic basket she would be getting a severe spanking and a vigorous seeing to.

Well yes, not denying that.

Afterwards I'd give her a stern lecture about the responsibilities of the press gallery though.

 

[Le Grille]

It was a sweet little show though wasn't it?

 

[adrenalinjunkie]

If you want a little light bagging of Annabel, this might do:
http://andrewelder.blogspot.com.au/2015/11/kitchen-cabinet-unvarnished.html?_sm_au_=i0VrZMSRPwv50nZ5

FWIW, I find her relentless perkiness and determination to be lightweight a waste of talent.

You're a tough man, Rob.

I made the mistake(?) earlier this year of listening to the joint podcast she does with Leigh Sales and having been weighing up the pros and cons of this double act routine ever since.

Then of course there is the ABC's own Sabra Lane, a dyed-in-the-wool True Roo for Life.

 

[Horizons_00]

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/af...d/news-story/37ad4a3c007c69dd79292e02745e76d5

TANKING — unlike ego — is a dirty word.

Melbourne and Chris Connelly could tell you how dirty, as would’ve the club’s late coach Dean Bailey.

They are the only club in the competition’s history to be sanctioned for not tanking.

Read it again.

Owner of the King’s throne, Gillon McLachlan, said it himself when he handed down the Melbourne sanction for not tanking: “To be clear, Dean Bailey, on match day, coached to the very best of his ability.”

McLachlan then provided us with a very clear understanding of what the AFL believes tanking is: “I actually don’t know what the definition of tanking is.”

Murky.

“In the AFL rules it talks to performing on merits and the best of their ability. In my view, there was no tanking on match day,” McLachlan said in regards to the sanctions handed down for tanki … sorry, not tanking — dirty word and all.

Melbourne’s mistake came through the exploitation of a loophole in the AFL rules. A priority pick was guaranteed to Melbourne if they won less than four games in the 2009 season.

As then football director, Chris Connelly led the discussion on the benefits of tanking, in a meeting room described as ‘the vault’. Ultimately, a decision was made there that led to team selections that raised eyebrows of players, coaches and anyone with an eye for the norm.

Players who needed no rest were rested, while the forwards played back and the backs played forwards and rucks were used as rovers.

For future reference, this is called “acting in a manner prejudicial to the interests of the competition”, not tanking.

So it is no surprise that the release of North Melbourne’s team last Thursday to take on Essendon against caused eyebrows to lift slightly.

Jack Ziebell was ‘managed’. Saved from himself. But many would have asked: Why not rest the week before against top-four contender Port Adelaide in Adelaide in a game where a win was highly unlikely? After all, Essendon is beatable and, let’s be honest, nobody wants to travel to Adelaide.

Also, All-Australian ruckman Todd Goldstein was dropped to the VFL in favour of Majak Daw, who had previously shown little as a ruckman, or a forward, or a defender, or a rover, or even a recognisable player across any level of the game. He is mightily big and can jump over anything, but that doesn’t necessarily transfer into elite level football.

Debutant Nick Larkey also got a go. He’d finish the game disposal-less and with just two hit-outs.

And then, as the countdown to the game was entering its final stages, key defender Robbie Tarrant was a late withdrawal, providing Josh Williams a chance to lose his debutant tag.

While those moves individually might seem a little suspicious, they aren’t exactly game-breaking for a potential “acting in a manner prejudicial to the interests of the competition” charge. They do, however, need to be added to the bubble talk that surrounds North Melbourne and its chase for its next superstar and the requirement to bank as many assets as possible.

Dusty Martin and Josh Kelly won’t come cheap and easy.

For mine, Daw is straight trade bait.

Some might say that it is obvious in the communication between coach Brad Scott to Majak that he holds no future at the club. They say that yelling, screaming and swearing at someone suggests you don’t like or respect them.

Daw holds no value in a trade unless teams can see what he can do at AFL level as a stand-alone ruck while Goldstein’s body of work is so valuable. Goldy at 50 per cent of his capacity is still a better option that Majak.

But with Braydon Preuss in the backblocks as an AFL starter for most other teams, both Goldy and Majak, for mine, are on the trade table.

So did the Kangas pick their best team? No.

North has offered big money to every available free agent and uncontracted jet you could think of. Isaac Heeney, Hamish Hartlett, Brad Crouch, Jaeger O’Meara and Zach Tuohy were all linked with the Roos. Even Wayne Milera reportedly got a call before re-signing with Adelaide.

The Kangaroos have exhausted every avenue to bring new talent into the club. So are the decisions from the weekend a sign that their frustrations have boiled over and they view the draft as the key to their asset banking and talent search?

That’s not for me to say. And you won’t hear Gillon say it either.

In fact, you won’t hear anyone say it, because the line on tanking is thin.

So much so that, on reflection, could you say Connelly was the pioneer of a revolution that has seen Liam Jones, James Sicily, Harry Taylor, Jeremy McGovern, Ryan Schoenmakers and a cruise ship of others successfully transition from defender to forward, or vice versa?

Did that Connolly-lead discussion in ‘The Vault’ on switching players to opposite ends of the ground — like a junior football coach at half-time — actually change the way the game is played?

The Western Bulldogs last year won a flag by picking a team of guys that could almost play in every position. Every player on the field seemed to be 6’2, fast and hungry for the footy. Of course, Caleb Daniel and Luke Dahlhaus are a combined 6’2, but you get my point.

Should Connelly be hailed as a genius who revolutionised the hybrid footballer, one that can be deployed for any situation?

That’s not for me to say either. And given Connolly’s history with McLachlan, you probably won’t hear him say it either.

Tanking — unlike ego — is a dirty word, with a wide range of meanings, perceptions, murkiness, and well, yes, even a little, yes, even a little ego

 

[giantroo]

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/af...d/news-story/37ad4a3c007c69dd79292e02745e76d5

TANKING — unlike ego — is a dirty word.

Melbourne and Chris Connelly could tell you how dirty, as would’ve the club’s late coach Dean Bailey.

They are the only club in the competition’s history to be sanctioned for not tanking.

Read it again.

Owner of the King’s throne, Gillon McLachlan, said it himself when he handed down the Melbourne sanction for not tanking: “To be clear, Dean Bailey, on match day, coached to the very best of his ability.”

McLachlan then provided us with a very clear understanding of what the AFL believes tanking is: “I actually don’t know what the definition of tanking is.”

Murky.

“In the AFL rules it talks to performing on merits and the best of their ability. In my view, there was no tanking on match day,” McLachlan said in regards to the sanctions handed down for tanki … sorry, not tanking — dirty word and all.

Melbourne’s mistake came through the exploitation of a loophole in the AFL rules. A priority pick was guaranteed to Melbourne if they won less than four games in the 2009 season.

As then football director, Chris Connelly led the discussion on the benefits of tanking, in a meeting room described as ‘the vault’. Ultimately, a decision was made there that led to team selections that raised eyebrows of players, coaches and anyone with an eye for the norm.

Players who needed no rest were rested, while the forwards played back and the backs played forwards and rucks were used as rovers.

For future reference, this is called “acting in a manner prejudicial to the interests of the competition”, not tanking.

So it is no surprise that the release of North Melbourne’s team last Thursday to take on Essendon against caused eyebrows to lift slightly.

Jack Ziebell was ‘managed’. Saved from himself. But many would have asked: Why not rest the week before against top-four contender Port Adelaide in Adelaide in a game where a win was highly unlikely? After all, Essendon is beatable and, let’s be honest, nobody wants to travel to Adelaide.

Also, All-Australian ruckman Todd Goldstein was dropped to the VFL in favour of Majak Daw, who had previously shown little as a ruckman, or a forward, or a defender, or a rover, or even a recognisable player across any level of the game. He is mightily big and can jump over anything, but that doesn’t necessarily transfer into elite level football.

Debutant Nick Larkey also got a go. He’d finish the game disposal-less and with just two hit-outs.

And then, as the countdown to the game was entering its final stages, key defender Robbie Tarrant was a late withdrawal, providing Josh Williams a chance to lose his debutant tag.

While those moves individually might seem a little suspicious, they aren’t exactly game-breaking for a potential “acting in a manner prejudicial to the interests of the competition” charge. They do, however, need to be added to the bubble talk that surrounds North Melbourne and its chase for its next superstar and the requirement to bank as many assets as possible.

Dusty Martin and Josh Kelly won’t come cheap and easy.

For mine, Daw is straight trade bait.

Some might say that it is obvious in the communication between coach Brad Scott to Majak that he holds no future at the club. They say that yelling, screaming and swearing at someone suggests you don’t like or respect them.

Daw holds no value in a trade unless teams can see what he can do at AFL level as a stand-alone ruck while Goldstein’s body of work is so valuable. Goldy at 50 per cent of his capacity is still a better option that Majak.

But with Braydon Preuss in the backblocks as an AFL starter for most other teams, both Goldy and Majak, for mine, are on the trade table.

So did the Kangas pick their best team? No.

North has offered big money to every available free agent and uncontracted jet you could think of. Isaac Heeney, Hamish Hartlett, Brad Crouch, Jaeger O’Meara and Zach Tuohy were all linked with the Roos. Even Wayne Milera reportedly got a call before re-signing with Adelaide.

The Kangaroos have exhausted every avenue to bring new talent into the club. So are the decisions from the weekend a sign that their frustrations have boiled over and they view the draft as the key to their asset banking and talent search?

That’s not for me to say. And you won’t hear Gillon say it either.

In fact, you won’t hear anyone say it, because the line on tanking is thin.

So much so that, on reflection, could you say Connelly was the pioneer of a revolution that has seen Liam Jones, James Sicily, Harry Taylor, Jeremy McGovern, Ryan Schoenmakers and a cruise ship of others successfully transition from defender to forward, or vice versa?

Did that Connolly-lead discussion in ‘The Vault’ on switching players to opposite ends of the ground — like a junior football coach at half-time — actually change the way the game is played?

The Western Bulldogs last year won a flag by picking a team of guys that could almost play in every position. Every player on the field seemed to be 6’2, fast and hungry for the footy. Of course, Caleb Daniel and Luke Dahlhaus are a combined 6’2, but you get my point.

Should Connelly be hailed as a genius who revolutionised the hybrid footballer, one that can be deployed for any situation?

That’s not for me to say either. And given Connolly’s history with McLachlan, you probably won’t hear him say it either.

Tanking — unlike ego — is a dirty word, with a wide range of meanings, perceptions, murkiness, and well, yes, even a little, yes, even a little ego

What a shit article. You can break apart his argument on every line.

Get your thoughts in to him below.

 

[Groucho]

What a shit article. You can break apart his argument on every line.

Get your thoughts in to him below.

Should stick to amusing stories putting shit on Michael Clarke. Knows nothing about North.

 

[Deleted member 98541]

Yaaaaay. We're in the news!

 

[Gorman2Geister]

We will be breathing fire for the rest of the season. Thanks for the great motivation you media nufties.

 

[Orange Peanut]

Props for breaking the family mould and not becoming a butler

 

[GarnerSmash]

Props for breaking the family mould and not becoming a butler

Dunno about that.

He clearly thinks he is serving up a smackdown of some sort.

 

[big_e]

Sooking it up when challenged, too.

 

[chubbspeterson]

I kinda hope we beat Melbourne so they all look red-faced.

 

[Kimbo]

I kinda hope we beat Melbourne so they all look red-faced.

All the Carlton supporting media?

 

[BoomerRoo]

What a shit article. You can break apart his argument on every line.

Get your thoughts in to him below.

Geeva is a great mate.... he loves stirring the pot, always has done and enjoys it, I had a very good inkling this was coming

He's been waiting for me to bite since he wrote this..... I did, in fact, I bit HARD lol

I've told the Hawthorn nuffie to stick to cricket

 

[boneofshin]

Kingy just suggested again that we're tanking for Pre-Season Draft picks on AFL 360

 

[kangaspurs]

Props for breaking the family mould and not becoming a butler

HAHAHAHAHAHAH oh ****.

I genuinely LOL'ed at this. Excellent stuff, OP.