Opinion Commentary & Media VIII

[Archer_11]

I connect with this completely mate.

I'm at the point where the only way I can see there being parity in the league is 14 teams who play eachother twice. Melb 4 teams, Geelong, SA2, NSW2, WA2, QLD2, Tas1. Reserves and seniors play on the same day. There's too many teams in Melbourne and there's not enough talent for 19-20 teams.

It means North would either drop to the VFL, somewhere else or get gobbled up in a merger and I would probably stop following football at the top level.

I understand my POV may be difficult to understand for others, but I'm exhausted tbh. I've had some major life events (as others here have too) and I am finding it increasingly hard to keep up the good fight when the deck is so stacked against us/other smaller clubs. It's no good even raising it as a topic for impartial conversation with anyone in the real world.

That's the model, I don't think the AFL will have the guts to implement it any time soon. Handled poorly it could destroy the competition and set it back decades. The AFL would be the laughing stock of the entire sporting world.

Just say that model is somehow successful despite the immense risk - what comes 10 -20 year after that? That's right, more fake clubs.

We need to stick it out. We have a harder road than most others but there is enough equalisation in place for success to be achievable.

Look at the clubs that have more resources than we do - a third of the comp have achieved less than North and are further away from a premiership than they have ever been.

We were irrelevant for the best part of a century but ultimately that changed. Our grandparents and great grandparents didn't give up then, and if they can do 50+ years during war and the depression I'm pretty sure we can do ten now.

 

[ChopChopDigDig]

He specifically mentioned and showed Harvey and Zurhaar wanting to man the mark instead of chasing. But later he said many were guilty throughout the day. Said "there's frustration down there that they won't apply themselves and they'll find themselves off the list because of it". Make of that what you will.

In the examples, thought that was harsh on Harvey. Once the ball turned over, we had too many players rushing up at the ball carrier, when there was no chance of a turnover, leaving space behind for a Giant/Giants to run into.

Believe Kingy was saying that too many of our forwards and mids over-commit forward in this situation because it's the easy thing to do - instead of turning around and sprinting 50 metres with an opponent. I'd agree with him 100% on that. Obviously when a turnover is a high possibility, you do want to pressure the ball carrier in their D-50 - but we get that decision and execution wrong more than any other side.

In the situation below, it's 6 v 6 but our 6 rushed forward and let opponents get past them. Parker and LDU rushed forward - LDU from the centre square. Our wingers, back flankers turned and ran but the corridor was completely vacant.

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All three of our boys ball chasing, its the same old thing. Don’t have any confidence in the bloke who has to go, and cover the others on the run. Not to mention the two north players standing next to each other in the pocket. That’s 1/4 of our team stick in the F50 while 1/4 of GWS are ahead of the ball.

 

[Karanicolas]

This.

Its fairly obvious to us members that there're players on cruise control, happy to be on an AFL List, happy to receive the remuneration and associated benefits being an AFL provides, but refusing to put in the effort during the games. And unfortunately these same players are still being picked week after week despite showing minimal interest in performing.

If I had a say, I'd be dropping the players back to the VFL and doing a Malcom Blight and start publicly calling out players if they are refusing to respond to behind closed doors. Not happy with being made publicly held to account, stiff shit, move on!

Feels like the club is warming us up for some list decisions that on an individual basis we may not be happy about. For example, Cooper Harvey.

But I am all for it.

Saw LDU jogging behind a GWS player in the back pocket.

Why do Banch and Payne look so much hungrier for the contest than their highly touted teammates?

I am a fan of Cooper Harvey, but he is not AFL fit. If they delist him, so be it.

The same with Zurhaar; he should be our De Goey. If they can trade him, please do it.

/end rant.

 

[Themanbun]

I know for a fact that opposition players consider us easy to play against. Particularly in the midfield.

And they don't mean that just because we're shit. They mean that because we take the easy option almost every time, we're incredibly physically soft, and are really disorganised. We're effectively used as a training run in some games.

Outside of X, no one in our side is gonna hit you hard. None of our players are gonna make you run your ass off each way either. And our setups aren't going to make you think of how to counter it.

 

[Themanbun]

All three of our boys ball chasing, its the same old thing. Don’t have any confidence in the bloke who has to go, and cover the others on the run. Not to mention the two north players standing next to each other in the pocket. That’s 1/4 of our team stick in the F50 while 1/4 of GWS are ahead of the ball.

It's not confidence. They don't want to run. They can't be ****ed doing it so they do the next option that makes it appear like they're trying.

 

[big_e]

Your pubs pretty shithouse if they can't afford Kayo. (Not that the Kayo model is amazing or anything)

All codes of footy, fights, golf. Its also a bloody tax write off. Maybe they should stop charging $20 for a pint of wankfest banana/mango/guava XPA, put some standard generic beers on tap and get some punters in.

Over glorified cafes, not pubs.

Local pubs being decimated by $4,000 'un-Australian' move: 'Should be free'

Venues are being forced to ditch one aspect that used to draw huge crowds.

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Commercial subscription is expensive when most of the people who want to watch can do so on their phones if they are that desperate.

 

[marklovesbeer]

Your pubs pretty shithouse if they can't afford Kayo. (Not that the Kayo model is amazing or anything)

All codes of footy, fights, golf. Its also a bloody tax write off. Maybe they should stop charging $20 for a pint of wankfest banana/mango/guava XPA, put some standard generic beers on tap and get some punters in.

Over glorified cafes, not pubs.

Sounds like you’re the one drinking at the wrong pub…? Most pubs still have ‘standard’ beers on tap.

Also, you do realise the pricing for a licensed venue to have live sports via Foxtel, Kayo etc, isn’t the same as it costs in one’s home?

 

[lockheed]

This might be a stupid question, for those who regularly watch our seniors and reserves. Who are the players who regularly chase and consistently play disciplined football? Are there 22 such players on our list?

 

[chubbspeterson]

Opposition clubs know and target us for this.

It's like when opposition coach after opposition coach says "their stoppage game is a real strength".
That means basically try break even in the middle, get the ball on the outside and we'll get them on the spread because they don't have the players who are willing to run hard enough defensively.

 

[Passmore]

It's like when opposition coach after opposition coach says "their stoppage game is a real strength".
That means basically try break even in the middle, get the ball on the outside and we'll get them on the spread because they don't have the players who are willing to run hard enough defensively.

We should **** with their heads and drop away at that too. Opposition won't know what do to.

 

[Disco Dew]

We should **** with their heads and drop away at that too. Opposition won't know what do to.

Checkmate competition!

 

[My Left Foote]

Dwayne just now, "North are... well, North's North."
We're one of his 'three worst losses of the weekend'.
I know it's just 'Derwayne' but it's a depressing existence at the moment as a fan/member. Not sure who we even are anymore. Sad times. Not wanting to add onto the pile of doom posts (but I will proceed to)... far out, it's shizen and has been for ages.

Problem is it's not just Dwayne it's everyone, the media couldn't give a shit about how we perform they know exactly what we'll do; a good quarter of football maybe two, a highlight here or there, maybe an MRO. They don't give a f*ck two minutes analysis, unless it a 100 point loss then stretch it to 3 minutes and move on to a relevant club.

Opposition supporters are already thinking about the game after ours, they know it's a win, they don't need to be emotionally invested in the result their only interest is wether their KPF will kick 10 goals or not.

The AFL certainly don't give a f*ck about us, we're a pain in the arse for them, they'd be more than happy if we folded.

 

[My Left Foote]

We should **** with their heads and drop away at that too. Opposition won't know what do to.

"I couldn't believe it, their contested work is their one wood but to get 298 clearances was beyond my wildest dreams. Having said that, to kick 78 goals and win by over 450 points wasn't on my bingo card either"

 

[leighlee13]

I will be so angry if this happens and I blame Brad Scott. Boomer should have played for at least 2 more years. He certainly wasn't taking a spot away from anyone. This has nothing to do with Pendlebury personally. ​

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Pies contract news: Darcy Cameron

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Darcy Cameron

Age

30

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204cm

Wt

103kg

Pos.

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and Scott Pendlebury

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38

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191cm

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86kg

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26.5

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7.6

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M

5.8

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T

2.6

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re-sign with Collingwood​

Scott Pendlebury

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Age

38

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191cm

Wt

86kg

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12.4

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M

5.8

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2.6

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has inked an extension which will let him chase the all-time games record.

Pendlebury’s one-year extension is one of the most significant in the game as it puts the brilliant midfielder in striking distance of Brent Harvey

Brent Harvey

Age

47

Ht

167cm

Wt

75kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.3

5star

K

13.2

5star

HB

8.2

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.1

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G

1.2

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6.0

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3.0

1star

HB

3.0

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M

1.2

2star

T

0.6

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G

0.6

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’s all-time games record of 432 matches.

The six-time All-Australian and five-time best-and-fairest winner is only 12 matches away from breaking the magical milestone in his 21st AFL season next year.

 

[Ardent Roo]

I will be so angry if this happens and I blame Brad Scott. Boomer should have played for at least 2 more years. He certainly wasn't taking a spot away from anyone. This has nothing to do with Pendlebury personally. ​

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Excerpt from article​

Pies contract news: Darcy Cameron and Scott Pendlebury re-sign with Collingwood​

Scott Pendlebury has inked an extension which will let him chase the all-time games record.

Pendlebury’s one-year extension is one of the most significant in the game as it puts the brilliant midfielder in striking distance of Brent Harvey’s all-time games record of 432 matches.

The six-time All-Australian and five-time best-and-fairest winner is only 12 matches away from breaking the magical milestone in his 21st AFL season next year.

Get ready to be angry and manage your way through it is my advice. Pendles is immaculate in preparation and barring an unfortunate significant injury will get there easily.

 

[giantroo]

 

[leighlee13]

Get ready to be angry and manage your way through it is my advice. Pendles is immaculate in preparation and barring an unfortunate significant injury will get there easily.

I know its coming for me and many others. Just needed to vent. I will get over it but Boomer must be way more annoyed than I am.

 

[Masked Avenger]

Get ready to be angry and manage your way through it is my advice. Pendles is immaculate in preparation and barring an unfortunate significant injury will get there easily.

Pies are a chance to go out in straight sets on recent form and if they do there'll be a purge of their senior guys at the end of the year no surer thing but Pendlebury will be spared all that.

Barring injury, the filth will boast the games record holder next year.

Of all the Clubs to lose the mantle to.

Been a terrible year.

 

[DuckYeah]

Oh the ****in wank fest for Darcys mark.. Banches mark > than Darcys mark

 

[Samsquanch]

The AFL certainly don't give a f*ck about us, we're a pain in the arse for them, they'd be more than happy if we folded.

With 19 teams there would have to be a bye each week. Nobody wants that.

 

[ToxicMegaPunts]

 

[gokangas]

Problem is it's not just Dwayne it's everyone, the media couldn't give a shit about how we perform they know exactly what we'll do; a good quarter of football maybe two, a highlight here or there, maybe an MRO. They don't give a f*ck two minutes analysis, unless it a 100 point loss then stretch it to 3 minutes and move on to a relevant club.

Opposition supporters are already thinking about the game after ours, they know it's a win, they don't need to be emotionally invested in the result their only interest is wether their KPF will kick 10 goals or not.

The AFL certainly don't give a f*ck about us, we're a pain in the arse for them, they'd be more than happy if we folded.

Spot on. And do we see anything happening at club level? We are the most irrelevant team in the AFL by a mile. We don't even hear from our leaders off field. Some explanation as to why we have zero improvement yet again? Pres? CEO? Someone tell us what the fugg is going on please.

 

[hilly]

Pies are a chance to go out in straight sets on recent form and if they do there'll be a purge of their senior guys at the end of the year no surer thing but Pendlebury will be spared all that.

Barring injury, the filth will boast the games record holder next year.

Of all the Clubs to lose the mantle to.

Been a terrible year.

Best player of all time? Here, have a string of never-ending controversies.

Most games played? Sacked and see the record overtaken a decade later.

 

[GoRoos2023]

With 19 teams there would have to be a bye each week. Nobody wants that.

Very true

 

[Roo202]

I'm not sure being banned from watching North play for a year is really quite the 'punishment' the AFL thinks it is!