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As far as I know Harmon has always seen this as a four season show. It would be so shattering if it got dumped one season early.
 
If they do get to show 22 this season at some point, that will be 71 in total. Syndication is usually around 88 eps so there's a chance for the right price that they'll make a fourth season of 17 eps to get it to that point.
 
Ochre said:
Childish Gambino's new album Camp became available on iTunes today, strongly recommend it.

Edit: Childish Gambino is Donald Glover (Troy) just in case anyone didnt know.
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Gambino rocks :thumbsu: 'Freaks and Geeks' is one of the best raps I've heard in a long time.
 

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Ochre said:
Childish Gambino's new album Camp became available on iTunes today, strongly recommend it.

Edit: Childish Gambino is Donald Glover (Troy) just in case anyone didnt know.
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Damn straight, epic record. Been streaming it last couple of days, buying it tomorrow, awesome stuff. :thumbsu:
 
divvydan said:
If they do get to show 22 this season at some point, that will be 71 in total. Syndication is usually around 88 eps so there's a chance for the right price that they'll make a fourth season of 17 eps to get it to that point.
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I'm sorry for my ignoranc, but what does it mean for a show to be 'syndicated'?

Cheers.
 
thorne89 said:
I'm sorry for my ignoranc, but what does it mean for a show to be 'syndicated'?

Cheers.
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In the US there are a huge number of local tv stations who take the major network feed for prime time and have their own programs at other times. So shows can be sold individually to stations (usually one per market) to run as 'filler' on a regular basis.

So the local station will run it 4/5 days a week (like Go/eleven/mate here often do with shows) and they need a certain number of episodes, usually 88 or 100, to be able to run them daily without repeats happening too soon.

This is often used for sitcoms as they can usually be played out of order without it being as big of a problem as for dramas. The money made from syndication can often be large enough that a network is willing to lose money on a fourth season show in order to get enough episodes that it will sell successfully.
 
I haven't posted here despite being a big fan because I'm still watching season 2. However I'm a little shocked that no one has posted the awful news that NBC has put Community on hiatus which is basically one step away from cancellation
 
grimlock said:
I haven't posted here despite being a big fan because I'm still watching season 2. However I'm a little shocked that no one has posted the awful news that NBC has put Community on hiatus which is basically one step away from cancellation
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The page before this one....
 
grimlock said:
I haven't posted here despite being a big fan because I'm still watching season 2. However I'm a little shocked that no one has posted the awful news that NBC has put Community on hiatus which is basically one step away from cancellation
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Blimey I thought Mods were suppose to be a bit smart.Clearly I was wrong. :o
There's more than 1 page on this thread.
 
Ochre said:
Saw JB had the DVDs at $20 each, bargain.

Forgot how bad the pilot was.
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First 2 episodes are bad, only a few good lines here and there kept me watching.

The heart of Introduction to Film, Abed's dad saying this "how his son can communicate via film" got me because I have a brother with Aspergers (sorta cringed at the joke made about it in the first ep, now I sorta laugh, my brother found it funny when he watched it).

Introduction to Statistics and beyond is where the show got great.
 

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Ochre said:
Saw JB had the DVDs at $20 each, bargain.

Forgot how bad the pilot was.
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Go back over a lot of shows you enjoy and you'll probably find the pilots seem crap.

It looks like January the 5th will be the last episode before it disappears for awhile.
 
I've gone off this show a lot this season. Haven't even watched the last few eps.

It's funny enough, but it has this overwhelming air of smugness in its own cleverness to the detriment of the actual humour. It's the archetypical sitcom for the hipster generation.
 
Eh, I still think it's funny, and I think it is trying to be clever, but it's also succeeding in being funny. The dialogue between Shirley and Britta in the car was very good. The season opener was a bit stale, not to mention the biology chapter, but it's still one of the best shows on tv and the past two episodes have been quality.
 
Caesar said:
I've gone off this show a lot this season. Haven't even watched the last few eps.

It's funny enough, but it has this overwhelming air of smugness in its own cleverness to the detriment of the actual humour. It's the archetypical sitcom for the hipster generation.
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That would be Arrested Development.

It's scary, I'm midway through re-watching Season 3 of AD, and just like Community in their current 3rd season (which was AD's last and quite possibly Community's last) just gets meta and self-referencing as shit.

I hope it ends better than Arrested Development, just got too try hard in the end because they just stopped giving a f***.

However, as it's been mentioned, Community is still one of the best things on TV at the moment.
 
No way. Arrested Development was great because it didn't take itself seriously. The characters were still massively likeable. The meta references were poking fun at itself.

Community is disappearing up its own arse. Half the time it's meta just for the sake of being meta.
 

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Caesar said:
No way. Arrested Development was great because it didn't take itself seriously. The characters were still massively likeable. The meta references were poking fun at itself.

Community is disappearing up its own arse. Half the time it's meta just for the sake of being meta.
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I dunno about that, I love both shows. But eh, I hate the shit out of the characters in Arrested Development, I take more pleasure and humour in their downfalls than anything. And is arguably better structured than Community.

However, Community has more heart and is more interested in it's character's growth. AD followed Seinfeld's 'no hugging, no learning' trick.


Oh shi. Just saw the scene again when GOB, Micheal and Buster find the fake nuclear warhead in the Iraqi house.

Gob: "Oh my god! *points at the potential weapon* Doesn't this look like an ice cream cone? *to Buster* DOESN'T THIS JUST WANNA MAKE YOU HAVE AN ICE CREAM CONE?

Classic :thumbsu:
 
Couldn't disagree more. I don't give a shit about any of the characters on Community. They're all completely and deliberately one dimensional.

On the flip side, anyone who didn't want Maeby and George Michael to get together has no heart.
 
Caesar said:
Couldn't disagree more. I don't give a shit about any of the characters on Community. They're all completely and deliberately one dimensional.

On the flip side, anyone who didn't want Maeby and George Michael to get together has no heart.
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Maeby and George Micheal are the two characters I sort of care about it.
The awkward humour was great from episode one.

I think there's more heart intended in Community, due to being deliberately influenced by 80's TV and it's plays on Cosby-esque TV morals it implants it's stories. Community's season will hopefully pay off. But the first 5 odd episodes still remain as the show's low point.


AD is more influenced by 90's TV; the cynicism of Seinfeld and the mockumentries of Christopher Guest.


All in all, they're easily among the top 30 shows of the last decade.

You a fan of Always Sunny?
 
I disagree that the characters are one dimensional, they've managed to flesh out Troy and Annie to be real characters.

I'm confused about all this sooking about being meta and self-referential, which implies that it's a bad thing in the first place, and that it's happening too much. When abed refers to an episode as a bottle episode or wonders if community college is becoming like a cartoon, that's witty for mine. Overall, as for meta and self-referentialism, I don't think it's happening that much at all, there's still a lot of storylines which exist very much in their own world as a sitcom. The story about Jeff and the Dean, the story about Troy and Abed growing up, the story about Annie starting to be proud of herself yet embracing the group again, the story about Shirley and Britta and the homeless freak, they exist in the sitcom universe. They're not too quippy or hip. In fact community is one of the most sappy shows on tv.

Sometimes people complain for the sake of complaining.
 
Caesar said:
No way. Arrested Development was great because it didn't take itself seriously. The characters were still massively likeable. The meta references were poking fun at itself.
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No, they weren't. In fact arrested development follows a pattern of Jewish/British humour which plays off annoyingness for laughs. Lucile is a pampered socialite who has no grip on reality. But that's funny. The dad is nuts but it's still funny. Probably the most likable character is Michael Bluth, but he isn't played for comedy.

It's up for debate about how much community takes itself seriously, I doubt it does. It takes its moral messages seriously but that's not meta.

Caesar said:
Couldn't disagree more. I don't give a shit about any of the characters on Community. They're all completely and deliberately one dimensional.

On the flip side, anyone who didn't want Maeby and George Michael to get together has no heart.
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George Michael = awkward nerdy kid

Lucile Bluth = pampered rich mum

George Bluth = pampered quirky rich criminal

GOB = idiot loser magician

Lindsay Funke = bimbo rich girl

Tobias Funke = camp wierd guy

Buster Bluth = awkward weird guy

As much as I love arrested development, many of the characters didn't have that much to them. Abed is the awkward one of the group yet he's much more fleshed out than Tobias or GOB or Buster, who are mainly played for laughs. There's a bit to like in all the characters in community, for arrested development, there was merely bits to laugh at. No-one actually cares about Buster, but his bumblingness and idiocy was funny. Ditto GOB and Tobias. Do you care whether or not Lindsay can function as a couple, heck even have sex? Or would you rather watch Tobias cry in the shower with denim shorts on one more time because it's funny?
 
Caesar, i'm usually a sychophant to you but have to agree with everyone else. One of the running jokes on Arrested Development was how innately dislikable the characters were. They were beyond flawed to being outright selfish ****s and that was where a lot of the humour lay.

The one character who bucked this was Michael, but he was very much the straight man.

On Community I think you're right, but to be honest the meta humour has been there from season 2 onwards. It's just that it's now exhausting tv/movie cliches so the jokes about itself are becoming more obvious as there's less other shit to poke fun at. Also agree with the one dimensional characters, but I think that is another meta-joke on the typical sitcom format.
 

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