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List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

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List Changes - 2025
  • Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
  • Jayden Hunt announces retirement
  • Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
  • Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
  • Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
  • List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)
  • Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
  • Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
  • Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

Key Offseason Dates
Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft
 
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bzparkes said:
I'd be happy to do it but have a feeling North would want a bit.
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If I was north I’d ask to swap him for Caddy, who went several picks after Zane in the same draft and yet again North overlooked a tall in favour of a mid/HFF.

Both Essington and Caddy would then rightfully tell them to **** off but I think my initial trade is fair.
 
eaglevision said:
If I was north I’d ask to swap him for Caddy, who went several picks after Zane in the same draft and yet again North overlooked a tall in favour of a mid/HFF.

Both Essington and Caddy would then rightfully tell them to **** off but I think my initial trade is fair.
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I'd be fine with this proposal:

I would hope bombers make a move for him. They would probably be one to say no but a trade I would like to see…. (It’s that time of year)

Eagles lose (pick 2)
gain (pick 5 or 6 and our 2nd rounder)
They could do this because they really want to take a mid like Sharp or Cummings and don’t want to take Duurs)

Bombers lose (pick 5 and 6)
gain (BGZ and pick 2)
They could want to have all 3 Duursmas. They could rate BGZ and Duurs as greater then mix of Sharp and Cummings

North lose (our 2nd rounder and BGZ)
Gain (pick 6)
We could do as Duurs wants out and like someone at that point of the draft

Wouldn’t happen and each of the 3 teams have a reason to say no. Just interesting to see kind of deals I think we would accept
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The eagles response to Ryan's trade request was stronger that i thought it would be.

I wonder if they suspect St Kilda are not planning on making a genuine offer to us and are planning a low ball ambush during trade week and so are trying to shut it down now before Ryan gets to the point where he has already left in his own mind and we have to tell him No.

St Kilda certainly don't have much trade capital to work with for a start. Plus i assume the clubs are regular communication with each other and maybe St Kilda have refused to discuss and agree on a ball park value. So better to shut it down now.
 
Deplorable trumpster said:
The eagles response to Ryan's trade request was stronger that i thought it would be.

I wonder if they suspect St Kilda are not planning on making a genuine offer to us and are planning a low ball ambush during trade week and so are trying to shut it down now before Ryan gets to the point where he has already left in his own mind and we have to tell him No.

St Kilda certainly don't have much trade capital to work with for a start. Plus i assume the clubs are regular communication with each other and maybe St Kilda have refused to discuss and agree on a ball park value. So better to shut it down now.
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He has plenty of suitors, he’ll almost certainly leave. Hope it’s to Essington.
 
hairy biker said:
Recommend you people stay off the Swans Board if you are a candidate for aneurysms/heart attacks etc.

One of my fellow posters has suggested;
Do we trade Florent and 9 to WC for pick 2 and then it’s 2 and 20261st for Curnow?

It has actually gained a degree of traction.

If you do visit please be gentle and do not tarnish all of us with the same brush.
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If I come over it won't be in peace
 
hairy biker said:
Recommend you people stay off the Swans Board if you are a candidate for aneurysms/heart attacks etc.

One of my fellow posters has suggested;
Do we trade Florent and 9 to WC for pick 2 and then it’s 2 and 20261st for Curnow?

It has actually gained a degree of traction.

If you do visit please be gentle and do not tarnish all of us with the same brush.
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Lol. If they wanted to give us florent we may as well have kept petruccelle
 
eaglevision said:
He has plenty of suitors, he’ll almost certainly leave. Hope it’s to Essington.
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If i was a list boss and dealing with a trade request from a quality contracted player i would immediately try and get a ball park value agreed with the other side. Even if the specifics are yet to be nailed down i would want an immediate acknowledgement and agreement of the ballpark value. Like we obviously did with Baker and Richmond mid year last year. If the other club won't commit then i would see that as a huge red flag and shut it all down.
 
Deplorable trumpster said:
If i was a list boss and dealing with a trade request from a quality contracted player i would immediately try and get a ball park value agreed with the other side. Even if the specifics are yet to be nailed down i would want an immediate acknowledgement and agreement of the ballpark value. Like we obviously did with Baker and Richmond mid year last year. If the other club won't commit then i would see that as a huge red flag and shut it all down.
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Given Liam has requested a trade I’m hoping this has happened.
 

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Here's an update as of 28th of August 2025 from my previous post about this https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...aft-thread-2025-edition.1390137/post-88284746

2021 MSD.
  • Collins: Failure (delisted)
  • West: Failure (delisted)
2021 National Draft.
  • Chesser: Leans success (Previously no call yet)
  • Hough: Success (Brad Sheppard MK-II plus potential gun mid).
  • Bazzo: No call yet (Unchanged).
  • J.Williams: Leans success (Previously Likely Success will need to be more consistent next year).
  • Clark: Failure (Delisted).
2022 Rookie Draft.
  • Club took no one.
2022 MSD.
  • Culley: Failure (Delisted although looking decent at the Dees).
2022 National Draft.
  • Ginbey: Success (Previously Likely Success)
  • Hewett: Likely Success (Previously Leans Success. Assuming he stays injury free).
  • Barnett: Likely Failure (Unchanged. Unless he turns into a KPD).
  • Burgiel: Failure (Delisted).
  • Long: Leans Success (Previously Likely Success. If he stays fit).
2023 Rookie Draft.
  • Isiah Winder: Failure (Re drafted as a rookie and delisted).
  • Zane Trew: Failure (Delisted, should've had one more year imo).
2023 Cat B draft.
  • Dewar: Leans Success (Unchanged).
  • Baker Failure (Delisted).
2023 MSD.
  • Maric: Leans Success (Unchanged).
2023 National Draft.
  • Harley Reid: Success (Unchanged).
  • Archer Reid: Leans Success (Unchanged, best suited as KPD or Ruck).
  • Hall: Leans Success (Unchanged).
  • Johnston: Leans Success (Unchanged).
2024 Rookie Draft.
  • Rawlinson: Failure (Delisted. Previously Likely Failure).
2024 Cat B Draft.
  • Livingstone: Likely Failure (Previously No Call yet).
2024 MSD.
  • Hutchinson: Leans Success (Unchanged unless he continues to regress).
2024 National Draft.
  • Bo Allan: No call yet (Unchanged)
  • Jobe Shanahan: Success (Previously Leans Success)
  • Tom Gross: Leans success (Unchanged)
  • Lucca Grego: No call yet (Unchanged)
  • Hamish Davis: No call yet (Unchanged)
2024 Rookie Draft.
  • Club took no one.
2024 Cat B Draft.
  • Malakai Champion: Leans Success (Previously No call yet).
2025 SSP.
  • Sandy Brock: Leans success (Unchanged).
2025 MSD.
  • Tom McCarthy: Success (Previously No Call yet).
  • Jacob Newton: Leans Success (Previously No Call yet).
Edit: Rawlinson was delisted so it's now Failure.

I know posters here will disagree with me but it's my opinion though. Some could also correct me if I'm wrong or don't agree with my assessment.
 
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eaglevision said:
Heard a day or two ago that Zane told North to GAGF. North board seemingly onto it now too. Would bode well for us to get 5,6 off Essington if that’s the plan.
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I was warming up to Williem. Sad! Off the table. No more do I want him.

He's not harleys level talent where the ceiling is worth the risk. Duurmas made Harley fat. Bad influence on wce culture.

I'd still pick williem over cdt though
 
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Carbine Chaos said:
Ryan - Steele seems a genuine win-win for me.

We need Steele more than them, they need Ryan more than us. Basically the same age.

Later pick swaps etc. if required.
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I don't agree with this.. there is an abundance of slow midfielders in the afl around age of 30.. there is not the same in terms of quality small forwards with longevity of Ryan.. think of how many goals he has been deprived of over past 5 years with our lack of inside 50s and quality of service... jack Steele's is a butcher by foot as well...
 
xInfected_Virus said:
Here's an update as of 28th of August 2025 from my previous post about this https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...aft-thread-2025-edition.1390137/post-88284746

2021 MSD.
  • Collins: Failure (delisted)
  • West: Failure (delisted)
2021 National Draft.
  • Chesser: Leans success (Previously no call yet)
  • Hough: Success (Brad Sheppard MK-II plus potential gun mid).
  • Bazzo: No call yet (Unchanged).
  • J.Williams: Leans success (Previously Likely Success will need to be more consistent next year).
  • Clark: Failure (Delisted).
2022 Rookie Draft.
  • Club took no one.
2022 MSD.
  • Culley: Failure (Delisted although looking decent at the Dees).
2022 National Draft.
  • Ginbey: Success (Previously Likely Success)
  • Hewett: Likely Success (Previously Leans Success. Assuming he stays injury free).
  • Barnett: Likely Failure (Unchanged. Unless he turns into a KPD).
  • Burgiel: Failure (Delisted).
  • Long: Leans Success (Previously Likely Success. If he stays fit).
2023 Rookie Draft.
  • Isiah Winder: Failure (Re drafted as a rookie and delisted).
  • Zane Trew: Failure (Delisted, should've had one more year imo).
2023 Cat B draft.
  • Dewar: Leans Success (Unchanged).
  • Baker Failure (Delisted).
2023 MSD.
  • Maric: Leans Success (Unchanged).
2023 National Draft.
  • Harley Reid: Success (Unchanged).
  • Archer Reid: Leans Success (Unchanged, best suited as KPD or Ruck).
  • Hall: Leans Success (Unchanged).
  • Johnston: Leans Success (Unchanged).
2024 Rookie Draft.
  • Rawlinson: Likely Failure (Previously No Call yet).
2024 Cat B Draft.
  • Livingstone: Likely Failure (Previously No Call yet).
2024 MSD.
  • Hutchinson: Leans Success (Unchanged unless he continues to regress).
2024 National Draft.
  • Bo Allan: No call yet (Unchanged)
  • Jobe Shanahan: Success (Previously Leans Success)
  • Tom Gross: Leans success (Unchanged)
  • Lucca Grego: No call yet (Unchanged)
  • Hamish Davis: No call yet (Unchanged)
2024 Rookie Draft.
  • Club took no one.
2024 Cat B Draft.
  • Malakai Champion: Leans Success (Previously No call yet).
2025 SSP.
  • Sandy Brock: Leans success (Unchanged).
2025 MSD.
  • Tom McCarthy: Success (Previously No Call yet).
  • Jacob Newton: Leans Success (Previously No Call yet).
I know posters here will disagree with me but it's my opinion though. Some could also correct me if I'm wrong or don't agree with my assessment.
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massive job you've done there, we will all agree and disagree with different players success.
But I have about 18 best 22 WC players long term in that group, most of the heavy lifting 21/23/24 drafts, 22 draft we got 2 rippers and a few misses.
We have still got a bit of work to do this year and next, but we have the bones of a decent side.
 

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Truth1998 said:
I don't agree with this.. there is an abundance of slow midfielders in the afl around age of 30.. there is not the same in terms of quality small forwards with longevity of Ryan.. think of how many goals he has been deprived of over past 5 years with our lack of inside 50s and quality of service... jack Steele's is a butcher by foot as well...
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while we need experience around our midfield, Steele is the less desired result.
Wilson, Winhager, Boxshall and some other picks swapped around would be the desired result.
 
xInfected_Virus said:
Here's an update as of 28th of August 2025 from my previous post about this https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...aft-thread-2025-edition.1390137/post-88284746

2021 MSD.
  • Collins: Failure (delisted)
  • West: Failure (delisted)
2021 National Draft.
  • Chesser: Leans success (Previously no call yet)
  • Hough: Success (Brad Sheppard MK-II plus potential gun mid).
  • Bazzo: No call yet (Unchanged).
  • J.Williams: Leans success (Previously Likely Success will need to be more consistent next year).
  • Clark: Failure (Delisted).
2022 Rookie Draft.
  • Club took no one.
2022 MSD.
  • Culley: Failure (Delisted although looking decent at the Dees).
2022 National Draft.
  • Ginbey: Success (Previously Likely Success)
  • Hewett: Likely Success (Previously Leans Success. Assuming he stays injury free).
  • Barnett: Likely Failure (Unchanged. Unless he turns into a KPD).
  • Burgiel: Failure (Delisted).
  • Long: Leans Success (Previously Likely Success. If he stays fit).
2023 Rookie Draft.
  • Isiah Winder: Failure (Re drafted as a rookie and delisted).
  • Zane Trew: Failure (Delisted, should've had one more year imo).
2023 Cat B draft.
  • Dewar: Leans Success (Unchanged).
  • Baker Failure (Delisted).
2023 MSD.
  • Maric: Leans Success (Unchanged).
2023 National Draft.
  • Harley Reid: Success (Unchanged).
  • Archer Reid: Leans Success (Unchanged, best suited as KPD or Ruck).
  • Hall: Leans Success (Unchanged).
  • Johnston: Leans Success (Unchanged).
2024 Rookie Draft.
  • Rawlinson: Likely Failure (Previously No Call yet).
2024 Cat B Draft.
  • Livingstone: Likely Failure (Previously No Call yet).
2024 MSD.
  • Hutchinson: Leans Success (Unchanged unless he continues to regress).
2024 National Draft.
  • Bo Allan: No call yet (Unchanged)
  • Jobe Shanahan: Success (Previously Leans Success)
  • Tom Gross: Leans success (Unchanged)
  • Lucca Grego: No call yet (Unchanged)
  • Hamish Davis: No call yet (Unchanged)
2024 Rookie Draft.
  • Club took no one.
2024 Cat B Draft.
  • Malakai Champion: Leans Success (Previously No call yet).
2025 SSP.
  • Sandy Brock: Leans success (Unchanged).
2025 MSD.
  • Tom McCarthy: Success (Previously No Call yet).
  • Jacob Newton: Leans Success (Previously No Call yet).
I know posters here will disagree with me but it's my opinion though. Some could also correct me if I'm wrong or don't agree with my assessment.
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Rawlinson was delisted this week so mark down as a fail. Otherwise pretty good.
 
The thing I don't understand about Ryan going to Saints is how he thinks he's going to be able to handle Ross Lyon. Simmo always talked about how they had to be gentle with him I'm pre-season and he'd often leave the camps early. Ross won't be having any of that and will be dishing out all-mighty sprays when he slacks off.
 
If we take the proposed 5/6 picks from Essendon so they can take Duursma, and we in our infinite wisdom take the small ruckman are we sure Sharp would get past bitchmonds 3/4? Anyone know who their looking at?
 
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