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List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

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Harley Reid extends to 2028

List Changes - 2025
  • Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
  • Jayden Hunt announces retirement
  • Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
  • Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
  • Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
  • List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)
  • Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
  • Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
  • Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

Key Offseason Dates
Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft
 
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If we take the proposed 5/6 picks from Essendon so they can take Duursma, and we in our infinite wisdom take the small ruckman are we sure Sharp would get past bitchmonds 3/4? Anyone know who their looking at?

I think we’ll take Sharp at 2, I reckon the CDT media stuff is smoke and mirrors from the club. I think Richmond will then take CDT as perceived best available and one of Lindsay, Cumming, Grlj and Greeves.

Grlj probably complements their mids the best with his pace but Lindsay is a Dan Rioli replacement with less speed but more accurate kicking.
 
The thing I don't understand about Ryan going to Saints is how he thinks he's going to be able to handle Ross Lyon. Simmo always talked about how they had to be gentle with him I'm pre-season and he'd often leave the camps early. Ross won't be having any of that and will be dishing out all-mighty sprays when he slacks off.
Ross famously has his favourites and Ryan wouldn't be trying to go there unless Ross has done the recruiting sell to him (i.e. he will be in the favourites category).
 
I don't agree with this.. there is an abundance of slow midfielders in the afl around age of 30.. there is not the same in terms of quality small forwards with longevity of Ryan.. think of how many goals he has been deprived of over past 5 years with our lack of inside 50s and quality of service... jack Steele's is a butcher by foot as well...
As opposed to the amount of goals he has missed from his poor set shots?
 

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Something about him, he lacks intensity and is just a soft gumby or something. Bit like Taberner MKII.



Jed Walter on the other hand.... just missed his teams a huge win to lock away a maiden final, which he will also be left out of.

Great footballer but he lacks size, athleticism and power needed for the modern game.

A more AFL viable and less mercurial Tony Notte.
 
I think we’ll take Sharp at 2, I reckon the CDT media stuff is smoke and mirrors from the club.

It doesn’t seem like anything’s coming out of the club, it seems more like the footy media have decided CDT and Duursma are a clear top 2.
 
Sharp’s range is still a big watch, Richmond definitely don’t need that archetype but they may just flat out view him as BPA, same as Essendon.

If you can do 2 and Hawks first for 5 and 6, you’d be laughing - but unfortunately I think Essendon only want to trade up for Willem and in that case, that’s not worth doing for us, he’s the priority.
 
I don't agree with this.. there is an abundance of slow midfielders in the afl around age of 30.. there is not the same in terms of quality small forwards with longevity of Ryan.. think of how many goals he has been deprived of over past 5 years with our lack of inside 50s and quality of service... jack Steele's is a butcher by foot as well...
Think of Steele as Jack Graham but with midfield craft.
Hes worth getting if hes keen, id swap Ryan for him no problemo
 
Shit. We will need to come up with Plan B now that stuffing it up is off the table.
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Duursma and Sharp at 1 and 2 is probably the best option.

I’ve come around to Duursma a bit and he will probably be the accepted number 1 pick come draft time - we either take him or trade the pick.

Going Sharp at 2 gives us the safe 200 gamer to go with our speculative high ceiling Duursma.

Good mix.
 
If the club views Duursma as a bit of a flight risk like his brothers(or just not a priority), and CDT is not really a target as many here see it a bit of smoke and mirrors, what about splitting BOTH picks 1 and 2?

(all assuming TDK and Allen band 1)
Do pick 1+13 for 5+6+24 (Essendon use 11 to get Z.Duursma)
Lets say Sydney can acquire pick 14 from Gold Coast as part of their attempt for Curnow(trading out players and 2nd rounders).
We then trade 2+21 for 11+14+Syd F1 - lets Sydney use 2+21 for Curnow

Leaves us with 5+6+11+14+24+31+later picks.
Then go to GCS with 14+24+31 for 7 + gcsF3 or something

Take 5, 6, 7, 11.
Assuming the first picks go Duursma, CDT, Lindsay/Cumming, Grlj (Tigers dont need him?)

We get Sharp, Cumming/Lindsay, Schubert and then Farrow at 11

Havent looked at list spots or anything, but if we can pre-list NGAs and get extra rookie spots, list spots isnt a concern.

Any Liam Ryan trade can go towards either future assets or getting a mature player in
 

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Agreed, 1 tackle in the past three weeks and 28 next year.

I’d rather we fill the 24-25 year old range than 28 year olds on the decline.

Give me tunstill before ah chee for no cost.
Yep Tunstill is the player from Brisbane that I want us to prise out.
 
With Massey being SA based is he more inclined to buy into taking Sharp with one of our first two picks?

I think he is the player that we need in terms of our midfield rebuild.

Not sure about Duursma given he is touted as a “hybrid”. We need out and out mids.
 
With Massey being SA based is he more inclined to buy into taking Sharp with one of our first two picks?

I think he is the player that we need in terms of our midfield rebuild.

Not sure about Duursma given he is touted as a “hybrid”. We need out and out mids.
Don’t think people should be scared of Duursma being a “hybrid” the reality is you can put him anywhere and he will dominate, he’s not someone who’s okay in multiple roles, he’s a star in any role he’s put in.

Can be an intercepting half back, a run and gun half back, a distributing half back

Can go into the midfield and win his own football, is great on the outside, is an incredible transition player, hits the scoreboard

Can play on the wing and hold space plus beat his opponent for pace and in the air

Can go forward and kicks goals, take marks and be a high score involvement player with good tackling pressure

This isn’t a case of picking up a guy with “midfield potential”, he will be a midfielder at the next level if that’s what we want him to be.

He has shades of Brendan Goddard, Nick Blakey, Will Day, Marcus Bontempelli rolled up into one player, he’s an incredible talent.

You put him on this list and the pace, athleticism, skill level and transition ability will look a lot better solely because of him.
 
With Massey being SA based is he more inclined to buy into taking Sharp with one of our first two picks?

I think he is the player that we need in terms of our midfield rebuild.

Not sure about Duursma given he is touted as a “hybrid”. We need out and out mids.
100%
We should be turning pick 1 and OA into the best 2 mids in the draft, we are selling an asset to get pick 2 so use it wisely.
If that means we need to trade pick 2 down to someone else to get the next best mid after Sharp, then so be it.
Don't stuff it up, 2 best mids should go close to setting up our midfield for the future with what we have already.
 

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If the club views Duursma as a bit of a flight risk like his brothers(or just not a priority), and CDT is not really a target as many here see it a bit of smoke and mirrors, what about splitting BOTH picks 1 and 2?

(all assuming TDK and Allen band 1)
Do pick 1+13 for 5+6+24 (Essendon use 11 to get Z.Duursma)
Lets say Sydney can acquire pick 14 from Gold Coast as part of their attempt for Curnow(trading out players and 2nd rounders).
We then trade 2+21 for 11+14+Syd F1 - lets Sydney use 2+21 for Curnow

Leaves us with 5+6+11+14+24+31+later picks.
Then go to GCS with 14+24+31 for 7 + gcsF3 or something

Take 5, 6, 7, 11.
Assuming the first picks go Duursma, CDT, Lindsay/Cumming, Grlj (Tigers dont need him?)

We get Sharp, Cumming/Lindsay, Schubert and then Farrow at 11

Havent looked at list spots or anything, but if we can pre-list NGAs and get extra rookie spots, list spots isnt a concern.

Any Liam Ryan trade can go towards either future assets or getting a mature player in
Not a fan of the second split with Sydney. Feel like we just go back to the part of the draft where we were from ‘11-‘21 and missing on mids
 
I try not to watch that garbage. My bad for some reason that's what I remembered him as.

Yeah me as well.
3 years ago maybe he would be a good pickup. Now he's just too old imo.
Meh could be wrong lol
 
Not a fan of the second split with Sydney. Feel like we just go back to the part of the draft where we were from ‘11-‘21 and missing on mids
If we are still getting Sharp plus a Farrow/Phillipou type, and maybe a Cumming if Richmond dont take him, I dont see how its a problem
 
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