List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

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Harley Reid extends to 2028

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List Changes - 2025

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• Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle
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  Jack Petruccelle

  Age

  27

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  83kg

  Pos.

  Fwd

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.2

  2star

  K

  6.2

  2star

  HB

  3.0

  3star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  G

  1.0

  4star

  D

  6.7

  1star

  K

  4.0

  1star

  HB

  2.7

  2star

  M

  1.7

  2star

  T

  1.3

  2star

  G

  0.7

  4star

  D

  7.8

  2star

  K

  4.6

  2star

  HB

  3.2

  3star

  M

  2.8

  3star

  T

  1.6

  4star

  G

  0.6

  3star

  , Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
• Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
• List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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Key Offseason Dates

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Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft

 

[Happy Mastenator]

People keep saying that Davies is a non starter, but selling the narrative of playing with Harley Reid and rocketing up the ladder is a very compelling argument

Agreed.

Currently have Anderson and Rowell as must keeps on big $'s. Touk on decent coin with two more years left as their three main inside mids. Also have a solid range of supporting players on the list.

Have youngsters coming through in the draft.

They won't be able to afford him if make a decent offer money wise. He'd be guaranteed all the centre square attendance he could handle with us, not so much with the Suns.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

I find it interesting that people just assume that families get along famously. What if Willem thinks his sister is kind of annoying and sides with Harley?

I think it's less likely that he'd be picking sides and more likely that they are 18 and 19 years old. It's a romance, but not life and death at that age. Not like he's divorced her and left her juggling three kids and skipped out on his child support payments.

I'm sure they've all moved on.

 

[Bender_]

We do all know it but we are also desperate for this soft**** ENTIRE NEW TEAM THAT OPERATES THE SAME AS THE OLD to bundle picks to move up instead of trading down to the dregs of the first round in a shallow draft.

Are you wearing a sandwich board as clothing and yelling this in the street or is there a version if this that makes sense that you can pass onto us?

 

[eaglevision]

Do we really believe Ryan is worthy of a R1 pick, albeit a late R1 that’s likely to drift out to something in the late twenties?

I know he’s contracted so we hold that advantage in negotiations and the Saints are offering him good money, but he’s a 29 year old with a significant injury history who averages barely more than a goal per game

Alex Neal-Bullen was traded for pick 28 last year and Peatling was a F2. Bailey Smith was a late R1 plus a late R2

If Ryan was a FA he might get us Band 3, more likely Band 4.

In that trade scenario we’d need to be sending something back imo. Expecting Clark to get a R1 pick for Ryan is setting him up to fail

In this draft? Yes. Pick 19-20 after FA is absolutely fair. Last year given what we know now about the cohort I think pick 29-30 would have been fair.

As I’ve said ad nauseam, I’d prefer a player than a pick. Picks in that range we should only be using to package up anyway IMO, which further reduces their value.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Trade me: Two Giants officially want out, third exit request looms as poor week gets worse

Trade me: Two Giants officially want out, third exit request looms as poor week gets worse

www.foxsports.com.au

Saints update and comments that Marshall to Cats is likely their 1R pick.

NWM: $2,000,000 x2
TDK: $1,700,000 x 7
JSOS: $850,000 x 4-5
Aleer: $800,000 x 4
Ryan,$600,000 x 3-4

That is an incredible shopping bill, something has to shake loose and it’s probably their depth or younger players looking for opportunity.

Chase the young players but otherwise a Ryan-Marshall-Cats R1 is a fair three way trade.

Yep and then lose

Marshal to cats
Windhager to dees
Wilkie to dogs
? to us.

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

People keep saying that Davies is a non starter, but selling the narrative of playing with Harley Reid and rocketing up the ladder is a very compelling argument

We need to take the St Kilda approach of throwing money at players if we're to nab someone like Davies.

Fork his market value, pay him overs and give ourselves the best chance to get him across*. If he's being offered $600k x 4 pa and we give him $850k x 6 (illustrative numbers, don't come at me over them), we might just nab him. Or, like in St Kilda's case, if we make enough offers we'll eventually get one.


*We may already be doing it, but the lack of us ever being linked to these type of player moves suggests otherwise.

 

[Barrybran]

Pick 1 for pick 5 and F1 from Bombers is still unders IMO. If they have any brains they will trade Merrett to the Hawks for Carlton’s pick and their F1 and they’ll easily be able to deal for pick 1.

Pick 1 and our F2 for pick 4 and Richmond’s F1 I’d do, but they wouldn’t.

I had a look at this last night. If the Saints pick up Mackenzie for pick 8 and the Bombers trade Merrett to Hawthorn, Essendon could wind up with picks 5 (ESS), 6 (ESS), 7 (Draper), 9 (STK), 10 (HAW). Fair chance they ask for futures somewhere.

 

[mitchzz]

Goodbye Chess

 

[Barrybran]

Do we really believe Ryan is worthy of a R1 pick, albeit a late R1 that’s likely to drift out to something in the late twenties?

I know he’s contracted so we hold that advantage in negotiations and the Saints are offering him good money, but he’s a 29 year old with a significant injury history who averages barely more than a goal per game

Alex Neal-Bullen was traded for pick 28 last year and Peatling was a F2. Bailey Smith was a late R1 plus a late R2

If Ryan was a FA he might get us Band 3, more likely Band 4.

In that trade scenario we’d need to be sending something back imo. Expecting Clark to get a R1 pick for Ryan is setting him up to fail

Would you be happy with the Saints' F2? We can do better than that. Saints have nothing to work with except awkward picks and young players. That shouldn't be our problem to work around.

 

[Tugga27]

Do we really believe Ryan is worthy of a R1 pick, albeit a late R1 that’s likely to drift out to something in the late twenties?

I know he’s contracted so we hold that advantage in negotiations and the Saints are offering him good money, but he’s a 29 year old with a significant injury history who averages barely more than a goal per game

Alex Neal-Bullen was traded for pick 28 last year and Peatling was a F2. Bailey Smith was a late R1 plus a late R2

If Ryan was a FA he might get us Band 3, more likely Band 4.

In that trade scenario we’d need to be sending something back imo. Expecting Clark to get a R1 pick for Ryan is setting him up to fail

TBF, ANB had the "go home factor", The Dogs were screwed with Bailey Smith as he was out of contract, and the parting was acrimonious.

I think a lot on here think that if we only get something in the mid-twenties, we're better of keeping him.

He still played 20 games this year.
Read somewhere he was second on our goal assists.

With Hawthorns first blowing out, maybe their first and Ryan for 8 or our second and Ryan for 8.

Either way, a pick in the mid to late 20's is pretty much useless to us IMO.

 

[Barrybran]

The Anti Splitters are out and about in force this year again.

So in three of the last 4 drafts we have split our 1st.

This year we will likely hold picks 1 and 2. Plus 14 and 19.

We will split one of those top picks. Nothing surer.

And everyone knows it.

It makes sense to do so if Essendon are willing. Getting an extra kid through the door increases the chance of success.

 

[Rowan18]

The Anti Splitters are out and about in force this year again.

So in three of the last 4 drafts we have split our 1st.

This year we will likely hold picks 1 and 2. Plus 14 and 19.

We will split one of those top picks. Nothing surer.

And everyone knows it.

Yep - 100% we split pick 2. No way we'd trade pick 1.

I'd also say highly likely we pick Duursma at 1. Sharp also goes before our next pick.

 

[Obeanie1]

Yep - 100% we split pick 2. No way we'd trade pick 1.

I'd also say highly likely we pick Duursma at 1. Sharp also goes before our next pick.

And we land Cumming and then Farrow.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Goodbye Chess

What?

 

[Jeremy McLovin]

I'm not sure that splitting is really that likely. In previous years when we've done it we've had a lot of departures and no extra picks to fill the holes, so splitting made sense. This year so far we've had limited departures and a chunk of them are gonna be free agency or trade so doesn't really free up a list spot. Trading up seems much more likely, especially now with Chess and Ryan both leaving.

 

[eaglevision]

People keep saying that Davies is a non starter, but selling the narrative of playing with Harley Reid and rocketing up the ladder is a very compelling argument

I’d been a big believer he was. But that was when he wasn’t playing AFL a few weeks ago. He looked excellent on Saturday, entrenched in the midfield, QLD boy, qualified pilot set for life after footy and in a finals team that will dominate for the next 5-6 years.

 

[new breed]

What?

Chesser was barraking for Fremantle he's gotta go .

 

[ziad]

I'm not sure that splitting is really that likely. In previous years when we've done it we've had a lot of departures and no extra picks to fill the holes, so splitting made sense. This year so far we've had limited departures and a chunk of them are gonna be free agency or trade so doesn't really free up a list spot. Trading up seems much more likely, especially now with Chess and Ryan both leaving.

Trading up? thats a new concept.

 

[Deepthroat]

I would think we give Saints Ryan plus offer to pay a good chunk of his salary to allow them to afford others.

Then a top end draft pick comes into play....

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Are you wearing a sandwich board as clothing and yelling this in the street or is there a version if this that makes sense that you can pass onto us?

 

[WCErevival]

Chesser the greatest loss since Judd.

 

[txbyhull]

I find it interesting that people just assume that families get along famously. What if Willem thinks his sister is kind of annoying and sides with Harley?

They’re the closest of all of the siblings if social media, interviews, and public sentiment are to be believed

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

I would think we give Saints Ryan plus offer to pay a good chunk of his salary to allow them to afford others.

Then a top end draft pick comes into play....

We can only pay his 2026 salary. After that he's on a new contract and we can't contribute. I don't think it moves the needle much in terms of his trade value as the Saints still need to fit him into their cap along with the other big money & long term deals they seem to be offering.

 

[Boohemian]

They’re the closest of all of the siblings if social media, interviews, and public sentiment are to be believed

Hope they're not as close as the siblings in that movie "The Dreamers".

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Chesser the greatest loss since Judd.

You laugh, but there is a 50/50 chance the loss of Chesser proves to be an indictment on the club's culture, player and list management.

Chesser is precisely the type of player we should be targeting, and we've consistently failed to land one. He's a top-end pick that failed to launch. The fact that he's from a poor team and has had injury problems only makes the risk he makes it higher.

Instead, we pick experienced spuds from other clubs.