List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[Boohemian]

As much as McCarthy or Sellwood seem like great options, thinking about it more I dont really want them that much.

Last year we drafted/recruited a heap of mids/hff/hb players - of 10 players added only 2 were KPP. The year before was similar.
This year we have at least 3 NGA or f/s players coming, all who are mids or flankers of some sort
We also have at least 2 first round picks that we likely will want to use on at least 2 midfielders. Not many KPDs going around in the first round at this stage, cant guarantee Curtin would fall to us if that was our plan either.
Our 2nd/3rd round picks will get used up matching bids, so cant draft a KPP there.
Next year we have a bunch of NGAs too, maybe only 1 of them was a KPP(Shanahan was it?)

We will more than likely lose Jamo, Livingstone is 50/50 at best, Allen we expect leaves, Barnett is no good, and Gov is a good chance to be done. We could lose JWil/BWil or something if Allen stays too if they want opportunity.

Thats potentially 4-5 talls out with maybe 1 (2 if we trade for Cameron) coming in.
I dont expect we are that much of a chance for Z.Reid/Busslinger

Come next year, we may prefer to play one of our young mids with good disposal off half back in a rebounding role that Sellwood/Mccarthy would play.
We already cant fit in Allan or Grego, even Gross is fringe. They all deserve to get a few games. Yeo is to come back still too at some point(maybe)

Perhaps itd be better to look to the future, and take a guy like Dennis, knowing that opportunities to add KPP at the end of this year will be limited.
Its crazy how young Dennis still is, and he clearly has some quality as he was the U18 AA CHB

Ya, I'm with you on this.

I'd rather go with Dennis as a developing KPD prospect given McGovern seems unlikely to play again.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Looks cool in theory.

Only problem is there's no KPP's whatsoever in that haul.

Even without McGovern dead we still need to add a QUALITY developing defender. Not some 50's pick.

Add in Barnett being a potato, another developing ruck (who actually develops this time) to replace him might also be on the cards.



I'm actually keen on splitting the Oscar compo (in the hypothetical scenario where we get it).

Take Sharp at pick 1, split "pick 2" into a couple more around the top end. Not sure there's a market for pick 2 in such a compromised draft, but to me there's so many holes in our list now I think it's a good idea locking away the best mid (Sharp) and then trying to hopefully tick another couple boxes at the top end.

Lindsay as a HBF + Curtin, although he's been fairly disappointing a bit later on as a KPP for example.


Until list lodgement it's hard to see just how bad our needs are yet. If Cameron comes I expect both the Hawks first and our 2nd will be gone somehow. I'd also expect Bailey Williams out the door, potentially even Jack Williams.. which would adjust our needs further.

Don't worry about holes on the list. Take the best 2 ball winning mids if we get Oscar compo. If we get GC's Port R1 - we have options. If we get this, I'd be tempted to take Sharp at #1, CDT at #2, and Fred at #6ish. Then take the best available out of an outside mid with elite foot skills, or a KPD.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Looks cool in theory.

Only problem is there's no KPP's whatsoever in that haul.

Even without McGovern dead we still need to add a QUALITY developing defender. Not some 50's pick.

Add in Barnett being a potato, another developing ruck (who actually develops this time) to replace him might also be on the cards.



I'm actually keen on splitting the Oscar compo (in the hypothetical scenario where we get it).

Take Sharp at pick 1, split "pick 2" into a couple more around the top end. Not sure there's a market for pick 2 in such a compromised draft, but to me there's so many holes in our list now I think it's a good idea locking away the best mid (Sharp) and then trying to hopefully tick another couple boxes at the top end.

Lindsay as a HBF + Curtin, although he's been fairly disappointing a bit later on as a KPP for example.


Until list lodgement it's hard to see just how bad our needs are yet. If Cameron comes I expect both the Hawks first and our 2nd will be gone somehow. I'd also expect Bailey Williams out the door, potentially even Jack Williams.. which would adjust our needs further.

Id delist more then 6 though.. Jobe Shannahan is plugging away in the WAFL as is Jack Williams as is Rhett Bazzo and soon to be Archer Reid.

We simply need to fix the midfield and give the above opportunities. For ruck id like to get in on the merry go round that is likely to happen this season and get someone experienced for now.

 

[Donkers]

Im still ropable all these years later we didnt grab him as a rookie in 2015 and instead took the collection of boobs we did take. It was very clear as a junior he was going to make it

You mean when we had Nic Nat, Lycett & Sinclair already on the list?

Also jesus people are overrating Darcy Cameron. He's a role player having his career best year at 29/30 as a ruck. People also forget that even coming in as a mature ager he was dead average and came within a whisker of being delisted by the pies after failing at his first AFL club.

It's all downhill from here.

Darcy Cameron wouldn't have got a game for WCE until 2022 due to our tall forwards.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

You mean when we had Nic Nat, Lycett & Sinclair already on the list?

Also jesus people are overrating Darcy Cameron. He's a role player having his career best year at 29/30 as a ruck. People also forget that even coming in as a mature ager he was dead average and came within a whisker of being delisted by the pies after failing at his first AFL club.

It's all downhill from here.

Darcy Cameron wouldn't have got a game for WCE until 2022 due to our tall forwards.

Yep. Rucks are a slow grind and all 3 were injury prone. Cameron also showed a ton as a forward. Big believer that in rookie draft you just go best available long term and forget about your list makeup.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

So we should have taken Cameron as the best available long term, because he was clearly the best available at the time even though every other club passed on him.

 

[Dark Sharks]

Is our mid depth even that bad now though? It just needs time. Adding the best mid from the draft (Sharp) I get, but adding 2 of them?? Nah.

Granted we haven't seen a lot of Gross and Grego because McQualter is a flog and hasn't given them games, but it looks promising. I don't recall us having such good mid depth at the Beagles before this season. Gross/Grego/Hall + McCarthy (If we draft him next week) is loads.

At AFL level Harley, Hewitt, Graham and now Hough are all here to stay for the forseeable. We also have 2 more years of Yeo, if the bloke ever gets fit.

If we add the "best 2 mids" from this draft that seems like too many floating around for mine. Unless the 2nd mid is a damaging outside midfielder/wingman, which I don't really think exists in that range.

 

[Forward Press]

So we should have taken Cameron as the best available long term, because he was clearly the best available at the time even though every other club passed on him.

It's the classic hindsight warrior argument.

Still get plenty saying West Coast made a blunder by taking Sheppard over Fyfe when every other club and even Freo themselves passed over Fyfe with their first round pick.

 

[EdCurnowRules]

Does anyone else find it strange that Sheed hasn’t already retired? How old is he? 28? You’d think that if retirement or delisting was on the cards that he’d just bite the bullet and do it…

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Dom go on… maybe he and the club thinks that he has more to give.

There’s a redemption story here somewhere. It’s his style. I wouldn’t be writing him off completely.

 

[eaglevision]

Does anyone else find it strange that Sheed hasn’t already retired? How old is he? 28? You’d think that if retirement or delisting was on the cards that he’d just bite the bullet and do it…

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Dom go on… maybe he and the club thinks that he has more to give.

There’s a redemption story here somewhere. It’s his style. I wouldn’t be writing him off completely.

Sheed for Cameron and they can sit him in a forward pocket on GF day. Win-win.

 

[MaxHunt]

Still think 6 picks is where we end in this draft. Pick 1, 2, 5-8 and then Evans/Walley/Banfield

1.Sharp
2. Rodgriuez

then no idea who would be 5-8

There's a lot still to play out before the draft. Laylor was around 8th or 9th in the draft predictions this time last year.

I watched Dylan Alexander's YouTube vid on the quality of the draft and I can't remember exactly what he said but it was along the lines of this years top 10 might have higher ceilings than last years, then it seems to fall away a lot quicker than 2024.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

So we should have taken Cameron as the best available long term, because he was clearly the best available at the time even though every other club passed on him.

Yes, it’s called not believing what other recruiters see? A prediction?

If we can’t make predictions on events let’s close this thread altogether then

 

[WCE777]

As much as McCarthy or Sellwood seem like great options, thinking about it more I dont really want them that much.

Last year we drafted/recruited a heap of mids/hff/hb players - of 10 players added only 2 were KPP. The year before was similar.
This year we have at least 3 NGA or f/s players coming, all who are mids or flankers of some sort
We also have at least 2 first round picks that we likely will want to use on at least 2 midfielders. Not many KPDs going around in the first round at this stage, cant guarantee Curtin would fall to us if that was our plan either.
Our 2nd/3rd round picks will get used up matching bids, so cant draft a KPP there.
Next year we have a bunch of NGAs too, maybe only 1 of them was a KPP(Shanahan was it?)

We will more than likely lose Jamo, Livingstone is 50/50 at best, Allen we expect leaves, Barnett is no good, and Gov is a good chance to be done. We could lose JWil/BWil or something if Allen stays too if they want opportunity.

Thats potentially 4-5 talls out with maybe 1 (2 if we trade for Cameron) coming in.
I dont expect we are that much of a chance for Z.Reid/Busslinger

Come next year, we may prefer to play one of our young mids with good disposal off half back in a rebounding role that Sellwood/Mccarthy would play.
We already cant fit in Allan or Grego, even Gross is fringe. They all deserve to get a few games. Yeo is to come back still too at some point(maybe)

Perhaps itd be better to look to the future, and take a guy like Dennis, knowing that opportunities to add KPP at the end of this year will be limited.
Its crazy how young Dennis still is, and he clearly has some quality as he was the U18 AA CHB

Tend to agree with your analysis of the list build.
I think if WC think Sellwood is the quality we need and the age range we want, he is number 1 and either Dennis or Stumpf are number 2 priority.
KPD players are looking a rare commodity in this draft and getting ahead of the draft with a KPD player is also a good move.
I can see a world where Dennis and Stumpf who are the best KPD prospects available and still available in the draft will be at best mid 2nd round prospects, or Hawks 2nd pick area so wouldn't be too hard to get another pick around there.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Yes, it’s called not believing what other recruiters see? A prediction?

If we can’t make predictions on events let’s close this thread altogether then

How is saying we should have drafted Cameron a decade ago a prediction?

 

[Boohemian]

Does anyone else find it strange that Sheed hasn’t already retired? How old is he? 28? You’d think that if retirement or delisting was on the cards that he’d just bite the bullet and do it…

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Dom go on… maybe he and the club thinks that he has more to give.

There’s a redemption story here somewhere. It’s his style. I wouldn’t be writing him off completely.

He's 30. The game had gone past him before doing the ACL. Too slow, and no defensive running.

I'm surprised it hasn't been called yet either, but it's his prerogative to press on, right?

 

[kane249]

Probably save it for near the end of the year, farewell at Optus in the last game
Similar to what they did with Naitanui even though everyone knew it was over

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Is our mid depth even that bad now though? It just needs time. Adding the best mid from the draft (Sharp) I get, but adding 2 of them?? Nah.

Granted we haven't seen a lot of Gross and Grego because McQualter is a flog and hasn't given them games, but it looks promising. I don't recall us having such good mid depth at the Beagles before this season. Gross/Grego/Hall + McCarthy (If we draft him next week) is loads.

At AFL level Harley, Hewitt, Graham and now Hough are all here to stay for the forseeable. We also have 2 more years of Yeo, if the bloke ever gets fit.

If we add the "best 2 mids" from this draft that seems like too many floating around for mine. Unless the 2nd mid is a damaging outside midfielder/wingman, which I don't really think exists in that range.

The problem is chicken counters. "Well, we have Hutch, Gross, Grego, Hoff etc, who are all going to make it. We have too many".

We don't want a player in the midfield who can make Richmond's midfield, but not Brisbane's.

You know the ol' West Coast, "Let's draft a HBF and hope he can play midfield" trick? Well, HBF's in u18s champs are usually midfielders not good enough to make the engine room. So it's essentially, "let's draft a 2nd tier midfielder and hope he becomes a 1st tier midfielder in an open all-ages competition".

"Lets draft top tier u18 midfielders, and the ones that don't make it in the midfield can play on the flanks" is the new black. Don't worry, this is nothing new. It has been in fashion before. We're just dorky.

As it stands, Harley has the goods. Most of us think Hewey has the goods to be an A-grader. But the other guys? An A+, an A, and then 4 B's probably doesn't win a flag. It might. But it probably doesn't. So draft the best 2 available mids. If both become A or A+, then happy days. If one of those other guys steps up and one of those new draft selections end up on a flank, that's not a bad thing.

We can't be doing this, "well we have 6 midfielders so we're good" chicken counting business.

 

[Forward Press]

Dom Sheed will never have to a buy a drink as long as there are Eagles supporters nearby. Even outside that moment, he has been a great servant for the club.

But it's time. Little room in the modern AFL, or our current game plan, for his style of play and athleticism (or lack of).

Thanks for the memories.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

How is saying we should have drafted Cameron a decade ago a prediction?

I predicted it at the time is what im saying.

Other one was Jeff Garlett. I was throwing chairs we didnt take him

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

I predicted it at the time is what im saying.

Other one was Jeff Garlett. I was throwing chairs we didnt take him

Sure.

I insisted we should rookie Sam Mitchell the year before he dominated at Box Hill.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Sure.

I insisted we should rookie Sam Mitchell the year before he dominated at Box Hill.

Can admit you misunderstood my point without carrying on like a baby mate.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Is our mid depth even that bad now though? It just needs time. Adding the best mid from the draft (Sharp) I get, but adding 2 of them?? Nah.

Granted we haven't seen a lot of Gross and Grego because McQualter is a flog and hasn't given them games, but it looks promising. I don't recall us having such good mid depth at the Beagles before this season. Gross/Grego/Hall + McCarthy (If we draft him next week) is loads.

At AFL level Harley, Hewitt, Graham and now Hough are all here to stay for the forseeable. We also have 2 more years of Yeo, if the bloke ever gets fit.

If we add the "best 2 mids" from this draft that seems like too many floating around for mine. Unless the 2nd mid is a damaging outside midfielder/wingman, which I don't really think exists in that range.

Hall: Pick 38
Gross Pick 46
Grego Pick 48
McCarthy: MSD possiblity

vs two potential top 5 picks? In before "but James Hird was taken at Pick 46372636 and Cale Moton was a bust", I just wanna play the odds and if Gross and Grego and friends can be better than average at AFL level, we'll be laughing in an area of the ground where all games are won and lost

Not totally against your idea of trading any potential Allen pick for two good picks so long as we take a gun mid with Pick 1.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Can admit you misunderstood my point without carrying on like a baby mate.

If you want to make bold predictions about who we should be taking now, go ahead.

If you want to pretend to be a hindsight hero and say that you would have taken a player a decade ago that no club drafted, you can expect some carry on.

 

[Feeling Groovy]

I predicted it at the time is what im saying.

Other one was Jeff Garlett. I was throwing chairs we didnt take him

Sure, but you also have to acknowledge all the ones you get wrong (not just you, but any of us - the Nakia Cokatoo's so many of us were screaming about). It's easy to throw out loads of names, some will be hits but many misses. Recruiters don't have that luxury. They have limited picks. Not backing in our past recruitment mind you, as I think they have clearly overlooked various aspects of a well balanced list.

 

[kane249]

I predicted it at the time is what im saying.

Other one was Jeff Garlett. I was throwing chairs we didnt take him

Which one of your alt accounts was that under?