List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

[Keys]

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

Spoiler

• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[Wedgetailed Westerner]

You would expect that give we started rebuilding in 2021 and they started in 2024.

They have had access to better areas of the draft than we have had, have brought in more top 15 picks in the corresponding period, have more first round picks.

They’ve definitley completely bypassed the part of the rebuild when you are both bad and old that most teams go through, like we did in 2022-2023, which is the hardest part of a rebuild for fans and supporters and for attracting and retaining talent.

In that sense they’ve completely caught up to us.

That’s why the perceptions of both teams are wildly different.

Rather than being pig headed and doubling down, you could just say “you know richmond did well not to hang on to players for too long and cash in in players to get a good head start on their rebuild and it’s shown to be a smart decision”- instead in perfect eagle vision tradition you blindly make the point that our U23 would beat theres as if being at it for 2 years longer doesn’t count for anything.

Mate every single player they lost, they wanted to keep. The only player, I believe they cashed in on was Rioli who was under contract.
To say they did well by forcing all their stars with currency out is a bit short sighted.
I think the Tigers President in their BnF having a snarky go at the mercenaries is evidence of this

 

[Quinten Kennedy]

Top 7 is a strange cut off point... 7 of the next 10 after that are WC players.

Almost as if it was to prove a point or something

I think he meant 'several'.

 

[Wce17]

Would we be interested in Leek
Aleer? If we could grab him for hawks first would we do it?

 

[juice568]

Would we be interested in Leek
Aleer? If we could grab him for hawks first would we do it?

Is this Matt clarkes burner account ? We shouldn't be trading out first.round picks

 

[Wce17]

Is this Matt clarkes burner account ? We shouldn't be trading out first.round picks

If Oscar leaves we likely have picks 1 & 2 so it’s not like we aren’t bringing in any kids. It’s no more ridiculous than spending the same pick on a 30 year old
Darcy Cameron that’s been suggested. At least Aleer is still only 22

 

[maverick001]

Harley Reid warming to Perth amid homesickness murmurs

West Coast young gun Harley Reid says he’s warming to Perth amid speculation the 2023 No.1 draft pick could move back to Victoria as soon as this year.

thewest.com.au

With Pick 1 West Coast take Willem Duursma.

Gee, there’s a lot to read into here.
Mainly he’s saying we’re going to have pick 1
Also him living on his own is a bit of a red flag tbh

 

[Lia]

A bit of alone time at home wouldn't hurt I imagine considering the ridiculous amount of scrutiny he always faces in public.

 

[Elite Pete]

Gee, there’s a lot to read into here.
Mainly he’s saying we’re going to have pick 1
Also him living on his own is a bit of a red flag tbh

Harley was the one who said hopefully we don’t have the number 1 pick anyway.

He lived with his misses for a long period of the year. She’s just returned to Melbourne for pre season.

He had coffee with Oscar and he had nothing to do so was going to go to the club early but Harley invited him to his house to play games before training. The young group sound like they are close so I’m sure they are always hanging out. Harley was the one to organise a 4x4 trip with the other players.

I didn’t get any vibes of staying or leaving from the interview but it was edited a fair bit by the looks of it.

I will say if they were confident he was signing they would’ve asked the question and had the answer out there so it stopped some of the mock trades ect but they didn’t even ask……. Harley did say he wants to get the Club back to where it belongs.

Was always a weird pairing that would create a little speculation considering Oscars already done a Coast to Coast pod this year.

 

[06Premiers]

Was always a weird pairing that would create a little speculation considering Oscars already done a Coast to Coast pod this year.

He co-hosts with Thumper.

 

[wirra44]

He co-hosts with Thumper.

Not anymore, most of the episodes are just thumper and a guest or 2.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

Mate every single player they lost, they wanted to keep. The only player, I believe they cashed in on was Rioli who was under contract.
To say they did well by forcing all their stars with currency out is a bit short sighted.
I think the Tigers President in their BnF having a snarky go at the mercenaries is evidence of this

The bolded part is what is short sighted.

They’d just won a spoon, they were at the very bottom of the cycle, being old and bad.

They recognised the list isn’t good enough so the turned over the list bringing in top picks for contracted players like Rioli and Bolton.

The only player they really wanted to keep was Baker -which I totally understand- but that got significant overs for him (from us no less).

What’s short sighted - old and out of date and played out - is the idea that when you learn your list isn’t good enough and bottoms out that you hold on to the players.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

One of the bigger myths in football is that Richmond planned to turbo charge a rebuild via the 2024 draft

Injuries, particularly early, derailed their season handing them a wooden spoon that was unexpected before 2024 began - some preseason predictions had them as a sneaky finals chance

They then had the “good” fortune of three players with genuine currency request trades at season’s end - two of which were still on long term contracts. Furthermore, those players requested trades to clubs who all had valuable trade capital and the willingness to use it which netted them 4x R1 picks and an early R2 pick

Fair play to them for recognising the opportunity that circumstances had presented them with and taking advantage of it by stockpiling early draft picks in what was an unusually deep and even draft.

But it was hardly the culmination of some grand master plan as some would have us believe

No one “plans” to win a wooden spoon and enter rebuild.

Good clubs get clear understanding of where their list is at, and make the most of opportunities that come their way like tigers did.

Contrast that with us at the end of 2021 when we recontracted Barrass and Duggan essentially eliminating the opportunity to create extra capital via free agency, even though quite clearly by the end of 2021 the list wasn’t going anywhere and we were fielding questions about entering a rebuild at our season launch.

 

[kempy]

The bolded part is what is short sighted.

They’d just won a spoon, they were at the very bottom of the cycle, being old and bad.

They recognised the list isn’t good enough so the turned over the list bringing in top picks for contracted players like Rioli and Bolton.

The only player they really wanted to keep was Baker -which I totally understand- but that got significant overs for him (from us no less).

What’s short sighted - old and out of date and played out - is the idea that when you learn your list isn’t good enough and bottoms out that you hold on to the players.

Tell that to Collingwood. Oldest list in the competition.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

Tell that to Collingwood. Oldest list in the competition.

Old and Bad.

It’s fine to be old if you’re contending.

If you’re old and down the bottom as we were in 2022-24 it’s the worst place to be.

 

[3agles87]

With so much that can go right and wrong in a rebuild, what a strange old hill to die on based on one draft.

 

[Wedgetailed Westerner]

The bolded part is what is short sighted.

They’d just won a spoon, they were at the very bottom of the cycle, being old and bad.

They recognised the list isn’t good enough so the turned over the list bringing in top picks for contracted players like Rioli and Bolton.

The only player they really wanted to keep was Baker -which I totally understand- but that got significant overs for him (from us no less).

What’s short sighted - old and out of date and played out - is the idea that when you learn your list isn’t good enough and bottoms out that you hold on to the players.

You are missing the point.
The Tigers didnt force the players out. They wanted to keep them.
The fact they wanted to leave was a bonus, not their own doing.

 

[dinnaz]

You are missing the point.
The Tigers didnt force the players out. They wanted to keep them.
The fact they wanted to leave was a bonus, not their own doing.

BS. They obviously didn't try all that hard to keep them all, and would have had the deals sorted earlier in the season with a handshake, thanks & good luck on the way out.


There's the vic bonus of more than 50% of players in the comp available to come to you at a later date which allows you to cut riskier simply because you can top up in positions of need when needed.

And it's easy to be the club like Hawthorn or Geelong who can do the offers of less than market rate, simply because if anyone leaves -they have ready made players available.

In contrast we pay up handsomely for scraps & our best strategic option is to draft in players, pay them above market value and hold on to everyone we can for as long as we can.

Freo do the opposite and always seem to wheeling and dealing to simply be in it. They always end up with less than what they started with.

 

[Shueygod]

using CD AFL player ratings and filtering for both teams players u/22

5 of the top 7 are Richmond players.

And they have more on the bench too. Smillie, Hotton, Gibcus haven’t played this year.

For West Coast it’s Shanahan, Chesser, Grego Bazzo.


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As I said there is no doubt that much of this is vibes and perceptions, but there is also the truth of the matter that we have been rebuilding from the bottom since 2021 and Tiges have bottomed out just last year and have accrued at least as much talent as us during that same 4 year window.

Richmond seemed to have avoided the very painful time at the bottom With no kids to look forward to that we experienced in 2022-2024.

Not sure if you’re being intentionally obtuse but 2 of your 5 tigers in the top 7 have played 3 games or less (1 eagle) and 4 of the 10 from the top twenty (1 eagle). It also doesn’t include Brock and Brockman (both 22) who slot in before Maric.

I added the screenshot with the two 22yos you missed as well as another with a games filter to give a more accurate look at contributors this season.

 

[kranky al]

Probably time we got back on topic and stopped talking about specific posters

People are free to make up their own mind on whether other posters are (or aren’t) what they claim to be and whether to then believe what they post

In the absence of definitive proof either way it’s a circular argument that has no conclusion

Time to move on

Keys is a geriatric ai from an apple 2e

 

[WA footy mad]

Im glad Warner resigned with Sydney, we would have had to given up too much for him. Watched Sydney vs Adelaide he was very poor. Spend that money on keeping Harley.

 

[DorothyG]

Thoughts on Will Brodie

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Will Brodie

Age

27

Ht

190cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.0

5star

K

8.2

3star

HB

10.8

5star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.1

5star

D

14.0

3star

K

4.0

1star

HB

10.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

2star

CL

3.0

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

5.4

5star

CL

2.8

5star

?

Seems to be really on the nose at Freo, but continually racks up big numbers for Peel.

A mature, solid inside mid who can win his own ball to help out our youngens. Albeit no super star, more of a temporary stop gap guy.

He is 26? seems too good for WAFL and wasting away at Peel. No idea about his contract status

 

[squashface]

Thoughts on Will Brodie?

Seems to be really on the nose at Freo, but continually racks up big numbers for Peel.

A mature, solid inside mid who can win his own ball to help out our youngens. Albeit no super star, more of a temporary stop gap guy.

He is 26? seems too good for WAFL and wasting away at Peel. No idea about his contract status

Still got another year to run next year which I thought was nuts when I looked up but it's true.

They signed him on a 3 year extension in 2023 and then pretty much booted him to the WAFL permanently.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Apart from raw talent which we'll hopefully get with pick 1 (and possibly 2), the midfield is desperate for someone who can regularly rack up 30 touches.

Sheed and Gaff were probably the last midfielders we had capable of that.

 

[DorothyG]

Still got another year to run next year which I thought was nuts when I looked up but it's true.

They signed him on a 3 year extension in 2023 and then pretty much booted him to the WAFL permanently.

Yeah right, yikes.

Not the kinda guy you would be hunting in contract

Would be 28 coming into 2027

 

[dinnaz]

Apart from raw talent which we'll hopefully get with pick 1 (and possibly 2), the midfield is desperate for someone who can regularly rack up 30 touches.

Sheed and Gaff were probably the last midfielders we had capable of that.

30 going one way isn't that valuable.

We have Clay hall sitting in the twos averaging 28 and 5 tackles a game. However unsexy, we need some grunt and hard workers in the middle, so that our burst style players can impact.
Priddis averaged around 26 and 7 tackles a game for comparison.