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List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)
  • Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
  • Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
  • Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
  • Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
  • Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
  • Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
  • Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
  • (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order
 

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Fremantle so keen on Reid they were prepared to trade up a couple of spots to get either Allan or Berry

Port actually did trade up to get Berry ahead of Reid

And if he does turn out to be a top 25 player in the competition as suggested by eaglevision then Richmond had 4 chances to draft him before us and overlooked him each time

Reid going at 16 just highlights how strong last year’s draft was
Geez I am pretty happy how last years draft and trade period ended up, the moving back 1 spot got us B Allan and Gross, pretty happy about that!
 
Would hurt our Allen compo so PSD would be the path to take
yes you are right, bugger
very unlikely he walks to the PSD for us, probably enough dodgy crap goes on behind closed doors at AFL we could make that happen?
How would that work to actually make it happen?
 
Dockers got lucky with Reid, they wanted to trade up to get Berry but we accepted Ports offer. People criticising our club for not picking him up also need to criticise every other club who had a pick before us, as well as the Dockers who didn't have him as their first choice either.
 

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Lordy. Are we really going to be having this discussion for the next 10 years?

How about back Bo Allen in to grow and develop. People whinged about splitting pick 2 for Ginbey and Hewett, and that's already proven to 100% be the right decision.
 
yes you are right, bugger
very unlikely he walks to the PSD for us, probably enough dodgy crap goes on behind closed doors at AFL we could make that happen?
How would that work to actually make it happen?
Let's be honest, we aren't going to use the PSD.
We've had ample opportunities in the past and we just don't do it.
 
Lordy. Are we really going to be having this discussion for the next 10 years?

How about back Bo Allen in to grow and develop. People whinged about splitting pick 2 for Ginbey and Hewett, and that's already proven to 100% be the right decision.
Yep

Bo Allen has been with us for 5 minutes.
 
Freo would have taken Bo Allen if he was available out of the two. No issue with passing on him the gaff was 100% the trade down/ Baker deal salvaged by a good draft
 
Lordy. Are we really going to be having this discussion for the next 10 years?

How about back Bo Allen in to grow and develop. People whinged about splitting pick 2 for Ginbey and Hewett, and that's already proven to 100% be the right decision.
The Pick 2 is looking ok just, I would not over egg it. Hewett is yet to play 4 quarters with impact and is lighter bodied then sold and Ginbey isn't good enough to play midfield.

But Bo, and the other two, need to be given 2-3 seasons before we can judge.
 
While I like the strategy, unless they are not costing too much draft capital over the next 2 years I wouldn't go too hard.
I am sure WC are all over any potential targets as shown with our new list management, we seem to be very active.
We need quality through the draft and trade period for the next 3 years and then we will have a list worthy of a premiership tilt.
The glaring issues with list holes need to be filled first through draft and trade.

Midfield, who was it that just quoted Simmo saying FRE are 2 A grade mids away from a top side, very much in this boat about WC list, we are 4 A grade mids away from being decent around the ball.
We have Harley and Hewett, draft Sharp and Rodriguez and likely get 1 from them, pick up trades of OOC and FA players and we can seriously build our list.

Our ruck is diabolically bad and if D Cameron is the short term 3-4 year option while A Reid turns into our next ruck I am happy to pay what it needs in $ wise to happen and offer no more than our 2nd round pick.

Midfield targets C Warner 2027 RFA, T Rivers 2027 RFA, N Martin 2027 OOC.
N Erasmus OOC 2025, stop gap potential B grade mid who has upside who will help with the bigger body around the midfield while our 18-21yo midfield develops. Brockman trade would be comparable, 3rd and 4th round picks.

The KPD.
The legend himself Gov has retired unfortunately, this is where you can maybe leverage $ and opportunity for someone like Busslinger from WB, OOC 2026 and getting limited opportunity in a settled top 4 side.
To get him now we need to pay overs draft capital wise, Hawks 2nd round pick would fall somewhere about right, WC obviously rate him as they tried to get him last year.
This would be the only draft capital I would be willing to use this year to fill immediate holes.

Everything else should be used to draft 3 first rounders of the highest quality with our 1st pick, OA FA compensation and Hawks 1st round pick, then draft our best 3 NGA/FS players.
I would be going after Busslinger and E Tsatis , both high end talents that are being shown no love from WB and the Bombers. all while keeping pick 1, 2 (OA Comp), 15 (Hawks). Get CDT , Sharp and Fred . Use 19 and 30 + some change and go get Buss and E Tsatis .
 
Lordy. Are we really going to be having this discussion for the next 10 years?

How about back Bo Allen in to grow and develop. People whinged about splitting pick 2 for Ginbey and Hewett, and that's already proven to 100% be the right decision.
People also cried about Masten over Palmer but who ended up having the better career?
 

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Not a huge fan of Reid . Just feels like half forward will be his career long spot
I was very impressed watching him on the Gold Coast. Very clean in those conditions.

I think he'll be an excellent footballer.
 
Stop making me re-live the trauma of last year's trade/draft.

Allan is fine and he'll be an AFL player on athleticism but he's just another Ginbey/Duggan type.

If we roll into this year's draft and demonstrate once again that we have no idea how to identify actual midfield/stoppage craft my head's gonna explode.
 
Stop making me re-live the trauma of last year's trade/draft.

Allan is fine and he'll be an AFL player on athleticism but he's just another Ginbey/Duggan type.

If we roll into this year's draft and demonstrate once again that we have no idea how to identify actual midfield/stoppage craft my head's gonna explode.
I’d put some tarps down if I were you…
 
Feedback out of Freo is the complete opposite. Coachable, wants to learn, get better etc.

Cant comment on the what ifs but do agree most players would be less likely to extend with a poorly performed club.

Good for him really, he was the player I also wanted but after things I heard I didn't mind too much that we passed, he is going well and maybe he'll stick around the long term with Freo but no doubt with us I don't think he would have.
 

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Stop making me re-live the trauma of last year's trade/draft.

Allan is fine and he'll be an AFL player on athleticism but he's just another Ginbey/Duggan type.

If we roll into this year's draft and demonstrate once again that we have no idea how to identify actual midfield/stoppage craft my head's gonna explode.
"Just a Ginbey type". Ginbey is en route to developing into a half back general. Absolute beast that had toweled up Jeremy Cameron for the best part of the game (let down terribly by a midfield that died in the arse in the 4th quarter and appplied no defensive pressure).

Duggan has never really been renown for athletic prowess, has he?

There are worse things than looking to Ginbey as an influence. Allan looks better in the guts, it's a case of the club providing the opportunity and experience. That will come.
 
The actual decision to make was to take Harvey Langford at pick 3 and force Richmond into taking Hawks future 1st for Liam Baker by just holding our ground to the last minute.

All the other hoo hah about Reid vs Allan is just ignoring the core mistake we made which is bending over to Richmonds demands at the trade table
 
The actual decision to make was to take Harvey Langford at pick 3 and force Richmond into taking Hawks future 1st for Liam Baker by just holding our ground to the last minute.

All the other hoo hah about Reid vs Allan is just ignoring the core mistake we made which is bending over to Richmonds demands at the trade table

We also got Owies
 
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