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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)
  • Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
  • Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
  • Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
  • Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
  • Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
  • Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
  • Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
  • (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order
 

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So who are we drafting at 1, being that we have a gaping hole in the midfield? In another ridiculously compromised draft with the best mids accounted for, how do we fill our midfield hole? Uwland, Patterson and Annabel off the board leaving a small ruck in Duff-Tytler at 200cm, a 191cm utility in Duursma, or Sharp an inside mid with no speed as our midfield option. Do we bid and force GC and Brisbane to pay and try and fit a square peg into a round hole in Duursma, or do we trade down and take Lindsey and others or do we trade into 2026? Or do we trade for an experienced B grader mid? All options are grim.
 
If we take 3 first round selections (two top 10 and one later) I'm very happy for us to use our other selections to trade in solid B Graders that improve key weaknesses. Getting an average or above average ruck and another mid 20s B grade mid would go a long way to laying a platform of competitiveness in the next couple of seasons.

I've seen enough of the young talent to be happy our non ruck KPP are sorted (A.Ried Shannahan J Williams Edwards). Harley and Hewett will be top level mids with Hall and Gross likely as good depth as a minimum. Hough either there of HB. Need some outside players but Dewar/Brockman might already have that handled. Need to make sure our early selections this year get at least one more good mid and we're OK.

The ruck isn't getting solved short term from the draft, as it takes so long to develop. 3 or 4 seasons from Cameron solves the problem.

The young mids won't be able to develop if they don't have senior support. Graham and someone traded in this year will solve that.

Pay a bit overs for the B Graders we need now and we'll be able to attract the Warners etc in a couple of season when we become a mid table team.
 
So who are we drafting at 1, being that we have a gaping hole in the midfield? In another ridiculously compromised draft with the best mids accounted for, how do we fill our midfield hole? Uwland, Patterson and Annabel off the board leaving a small ruck in Duff-Tytler at 200cm, a 191cm utility in Duursma, or Sharp an inside mid with no speed as our midfield option. Do we bid and force GC and Brisbane to pay and try and fit a square peg into a round hole in Duursma, or do we trade down and take Lindsey and others or do we trade into 2026? Or do we trade for an experienced B grader mid? All options are grim.

Pick 1. WCE select Dan Annable [Brisbane match]
Pick 2. WCE select Zeke Uwland [GCS match]
Pick 3. WCE select Beau Addinsall [GCS match]
Pick 4. WCE select Dylan Patterson [GWS match]
Pick 5. WCE select Dyson Sharp
Pick 6. WCE select Willem Duursma

Pick 19 [Hawks first] WCE Select Kalani White
Pick 40 [WCE second round] WCE select Cody Curtin

Pick 45 GCS select Charlie Banfield [WCE match]
Pick 47 GCS select Wes Walley [WCE match]

etc etc. **** em.
 

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Pick 1. WCE select Dan Annable [Brisbane match]
Pick 2. WCE select Zeke Uwland [GCS match]
Pick 3. WCE select Beau Addinsall [GCS match]
Pick 4. WCE select Dylan Patterson [GWS match]
Pick 5. WCE select Dyson Sharp
Pick 6. WCE select Willem Duursma

Pick 19 [Hawks first] WCE Select Kalani White
Pick 40 [WCE second round] WCE select Cody Curtin

Pick 45 GCS select Charlie Banfield [WCE match]
Pick 47 GCS select Wes Walley [WCE match]

etc etc. **** em.
You forgot bidding on Dean with 5.
 




Feels like there’s a deal to be done there with Essendon (not for Harley) but with pick splits, I think 1 or 2 and Hawks first for theirs and Melbourne’s first would be good, could probably land Cumming and Sharp with those picks anyway.



4D chess from the club to send Crazy Vozzo over to repay us for all his f*** ups!!!
 
So who are we drafting at 1, being that we have a gaping hole in the midfield? In another ridiculously compromised draft with the best mids accounted for, how do we fill our midfield hole? Uwland, Patterson and Annabel off the board leaving a small ruck in Duff-Tytler at 200cm, a 191cm utility in Duursma, or Sharp an inside mid with no speed as our midfield option. Do we bid and force GC and Brisbane to pay and try and fit a square peg into a round hole in Duursma, or do we trade down and take Lindsey and others or do we trade into 2026? Or do we trade for an experienced B grader mid? All options are grim.
Okay, so...
Let's say we enter the draft period with picks:
1,2,12,19 (2 is OA compensation, 12 is tied to Halks and 19 is our first pick of second round (and will slide to 30+))


Without focussing on anything other than the draft this is what I suggest be should try to do with this hand:

Picks 1+19+32 to Gold Coast for picks 8,11 and their future first. Rationale for trade: Gold coast will want an early pick (1) before their two academy players are bid on, which will likely be within the top 10. To match these bids they will a require a number of highish value picks to get the points needed, hence giving 19 and 32. I am not too worried about trading these picks away becuase we will only take so many players in the draft, and the picks themselves will be pushed back quite far anyway. We get their future first to even things up for us. Both clubs get what they want.

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We now have picks:
2,8,11,12 + our future 1st, 2nd, and gold coasts future 1st for 2026

Now on to who we draft?

Usually west coast drafts 5-6 players each year. This year we appear to have a myriad of very promising academy kids to also consider. I say we take 2, Wes Wally + who ever is the next best (can't remember but one other is meant to be standing out). Obviously we will need some late picks to snatch them. In reality I am sure this will be easy enough to manufacture eg. our futre 3rd for freo's 43 etc. I will assume that we will have the late picks to do this. This leaves 4 playes to draft from the open pool. I vote:

2) Lindsay
8) Sharp
11) Sam Cumming/ollie greeves/Sam Grlj
12) Fred Rodriegez.

Reasoning

1) Lindsay: Cast your minds back to 2022. In that draft we took Ginbey + Hewett. I was always a huge fan of that trade down from 2 (mostly because I knew reuben and really wanted him to land at West Coast, even at pick 2 - (personal bias), and liked the look of Hewett as a bonus. The outrage over that trade down was that it meant we missed out on Sheezel - who is a gun. I would argue that in the footy sense lindsay is his re-incarnate. He has the best left foot kick ( and kick in general) I have ever seen in a draftee's highlights. He is very crafty, can hit the tough kicks and angles, chooses the right option almost always and has a great footy sense. Some people just understand and read the game naturally, and I think he is one. Over the past few years WC have drafted some athletes (reuben, bo allen) who while being athletic and big bodied just don't have that 'footy instinct'. I think it is something our team lacks, and it is not in contention across the board skills are incredibly poor. I think that his surgical kicking from the wing/backline will provide the link we need across the back two thirds of the footy field, and as he get's older there is midfield potential as well.

8) Sharp: Their is a lot of debate around where sharp will go. Some say top 10, others end of first round due to his 'lack of upside'. Looking at his highlights I think he is worth the gamble. He is a high disposal (we need), in and under (we need) contested player (we need). Even if all he ever ends up being is a good, accumulating contested mid who can reliably shovel the ball out to Reid/hewett I think he will be worth it. Also has good leadership traits.

11) Cumming/Greeves/Grlj. I think only one of these three will be available. All are mid fielders and will provide great WAFL depth while they develop. If I had to choose from them I would lean towards Cumming as the preference. (in part due to his recent 3 goal haul, and in part due to his exceptional surname.)

12) Fred: A Western Australian boy, if he is available I think we snag him too. Seems like a great talent and is a local after all.

Late pick: Wes Wally: (NGA Academy Player, great skills, exiting small foward)

Rookie draft (A Second Academy Player)

Summary:
I believe that this draft hand would set us up with some great young talent for next year. One factor I have not considered here though is that in the recent years we (West Coast Recruiters) have been able to identify and pick up some quite handy talent later in the draft - Noah Long, Tom Gross, Luca Grego, Hamish Davis, Rhett Bazzo, Jack Williams. It would be great if we could collect some late draft picks and do the same again, find another diamond in the rough. A key back for example, or really hard running winger with a big tank would be especially great.

Further Notes:

Would be trade pick 1 or 2 to the Suns?
I believe it could be good for us either way. Whoever is pick one receives a cash bonus and additional supoort - however they also receive infinitely more scrutiny and pressure. If we traded pick one it would send that pressure and headlines over east, and also make the Suns feel better. I wouldn't be too worried about the cash bonus as the club could sooo easily make that up to the player with the next contract. The only knock is if the Suns took the player we wanted, however if they agreed not to pick the bloke we wanted it would be fine. (I suspect Richmond did similar by not picking Bo Allen.)

William Durrsma: I did not consider him here for pick 2, and would not even if we have pick 1 and 2. At the end of the day he seems like quite an 'athletic' powerful player, who can find the footy at junior level, but I don't rate the quality of his disposals, decision making, and don't fully see the hype. He may get the ball but he always seems to turn it over. At the end of the day he seems like he will be a good impact player, likely to take a few good grabs but doesn't really have great x factor, or in MY opinion star potential. Some have argued that draft him to make it more likely for Harley to stay (because of the Yasmin Durrsma conntection) but seems it appears they have recently broken up (Perth Now Reported) soooo yeah...

Somewhat off topic it has become very obvious we somehow need another big, mature body in our midfield going into next year to provide some leadership and take the pressure off. I hope this can be Yeo, as he was epic at the start of last year but we can't rely on his injury prone body. We need to be more competitive next year, and that starts in the middle.

Thanks for (hopefully) putting up with the lackluster spelling and grammer, and hopefully the jist comes across well enough. Thoughts???
 
Okay, so...
Let's say we enter the draft period with picks:
1,2,12,19 (2 is OA compensation, 12 is tied to Halks and 19 is our first pick of second round (and will slide to 30+))


Without focussing on anything other than the draft this is what I suggest be should try to do with this hand:

Picks 1+19+32 to Gold Coast for picks 8,11 and their future first. Rationale for trade: Gold coast will want an early pick (1) before their two academy players are bid on, which will likely be within the top 10. To match these bids they will a require a number of highish value picks to get the points needed, hence giving 19 and 32. I am not too worried about trading these picks away becuase we will only take so many players in the draft, and the picks themselves will be pushed back quite far anyway. We get their future first to even things up for us. Both clubs get what they want.

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We now have picks:
2,8,11,12 + our future 1st, 2nd, and gold coasts future 1st for 2026

Now on to who we draft?

Usually west coast drafts 5-6 players each year. This year we appear to have a myriad of very promising academy kids to also consider. I say we take 2, Wes Wally + who ever is the next best (can't remember but one other is meant to be standing out). Obviously we will need some late picks to snatch them. In reality I am sure this will be easy enough to manufacture eg. our futre 3rd for freo's 43 etc. I will assume that we will have the late picks to do this. This leaves 4 playes to draft from the open pool. I vote:

2) Lindsay
8) Sharp
11) Sam Cumming/ollie greeves/Sam Grlj
12) Fred Rodriegez.

Reasoning

1) Lindsay: Cast your minds back to 2022. In that draft we took Ginbey + Hewett. I was always a huge fan of that trade down from 2 (mostly because I knew reuben and really wanted him to land at West Coast, even at pick 2 - (personal bias), and liked the look of Hewett as a bonus. The outrage over that trade down was that it meant we missed out on Sheezel - who is a gun. I would argue that in the footy sense lindsay is his re-incarnate. He has the best left foot kick ( and kick in general) I have ever seen in a draftee's highlights. He is very crafty, can hit the tough kicks and angles, chooses the right option almost always and has a great footy sense. Some people just understand and read the game naturally, and I think he is one. Over the past few years WC have drafted some athletes (reuben, bo allen) who while being athletic and big bodied just don't have that 'footy instinct'. I think it is something our team lacks, and it is not in contention across the board skills are incredibly poor. I think that his surgical kicking from the wing/backline will provide the link we need across the back two thirds of the footy field, and as he get's older there is midfield potential as well.

8) Sharp: Their is a lot of debate around where sharp will go. Some say top 10, others end of first round due to his 'lack of upside'. Looking at his highlights I think he is worth the gamble. He is a high disposal (we need), in and under (we need) contested player (we need). Even if all he ever ends up being is a good, accumulating contested mid who can reliably shovel the ball out to Reid/hewett I think he will be worth it. Also has good leadership traits.

11) Cumming/Greeves/Grlj. I think only one of these three will be available. All are mid fielders and will provide great WAFL depth while they develop. If I had to choose from them I would lean towards Cumming as the preference. (in part due to his recent 3 goal haul, and in part due to his exceptional surname.)

12) Fred: A Western Australian boy, if he is available I think we snag him too. Seems like a great talent and is a local after all.

Late pick: Wes Wally: (NGA Academy Player, great skills, exiting small foward)

Rookie draft (A Second Academy Player)

Summary:
I believe that this draft hand would set us up with some great young talent for next year. One factor I have not considered here though is that in the recent years we (West Coast Recruiters) have been able to identify and pick up some quite handy talent later in the draft - Noah Long, Tom Gross, Luca Grego, Hamish Davis, Rhett Bazzo, Jack Williams. It would be great if we could collect some late draft picks and do the same again, find another diamond in the rough. A key back for example, or really hard running winger with a big tank would be especially great.

Further Notes:

Would be trade pick 1 or 2 to the Suns?
I believe it could be good for us either way. Whoever is pick one receives a cash bonus and additional supoort - however they also receive infinitely more scrutiny and pressure. If we traded pick one it would send that pressure and headlines over east, and also make the Suns feel better. I wouldn't be too worried about the cash bonus as the club could sooo easily make that up to the player with the next contract. The only knock is if the Suns took the player we wanted, however if they agreed not to pick the bloke we wanted it would be fine. (I suspect Richmond did similar by not picking Bo Allen.)

William Durrsma: I did not consider him here for pick 2, and would not even if we have pick 1 and 2. At the end of the day he seems like quite an 'athletic' powerful player, who can find the footy at junior level, but I don't rate the quality of his disposals, decision making, and don't fully see the hype. He may get the ball but he always seems to turn it over. At the end of the day he seems like he will be a good impact player, likely to take a few good grabs but doesn't really have great x factor, or in MY opinion star potential. Some have argued that draft him to make it more likely for Harley to stay (because of the Yasmin Durrsma conntection) but seems it appears they have recently broken up (Perth Now Reported) soooo yeah...

Somewhat off topic it has become very obvious we somehow need another big, mature body in our midfield going into next year to provide some leadership and take the pressure off. I hope this can be Yeo, as he was epic at the start of last year but we can't rely on his injury prone body. We need to be more competitive next year, and that starts in the middle.

Thanks for (hopefully) putting up with the lackluster spelling and grammer, and hopefully the jist comes across well enough. Thoughts???
Maybe Farrow over Fred? but maybe depends which mid we get at the previous pick a bit. Harder either Lindsay already taken by us.
Could consider Barker or something with that Fred pick too, if we don't want a 3rd midfielder in the first round- we cant give them all much exposure next year, its just too many to give afl ganes to at once
 

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Rodriguez looking like out he could easily slip outside the top 20.
Would probably go Farrow ahead of him but not at pick 12.
With Sharp been more of a accumulator and a bigger body ,not super quick.
But yeah we could def do with him.
Not Sharp & Rodriguez with picks inside 12.
If Rodriguez slipped to 25 I would find a pick for him.
Just think there could be a lot more talent ahead of him now better suited to our midfield needs
 
Pick 1. WCE select Dan Annable [Brisbane match]
Pick 2. WCE select Zeke Uwland [GCS match]
Pick 3. WCE select Beau Addinsall [GCS match]
Pick 4. WCE select Dylan Patterson [GWS match]
Pick 5. WCE select Dyson Sharp
Pick 6. WCE select Willem Duursma

Pick 19 [Hawks first] WCE Select Kalani White
Pick 40 [WCE second round] WCE select Cody Curtin

Pick 45 GCS select Charlie Banfield [WCE match]
Pick 47 GCS select Wes Walley [WCE match]

etc etc. **** em.
Except you end up with Addinsall in this situation. He’s not a top 10 prospect and probably struggling to be a first round pick.

Annable and Patterson (Suns)* both getting a lot of love on public draft boards but I think there are some questions on there games. Both 1st rounders but I’m not sure they are both top 5 locks.

Uwland to me has been a top two fancy due to what he’s done in the past, he plays his first game of the year this weekend. He’s the only one I’d bid on at pick one or two.
 
Except you end up with Addinsall in this situation. He’s not a top 10 prospect and probably struggling to be a first round pick.

Annable and Patterson (Suns)* both getting a lot of love on public draft boards but I think there are some questions on there games. Both 1st rounders but I’m not sure they are both top 5 locks.

Uwland to me has been a top two fancy due to what he’s done in the past, he plays his first game of the year this weekend. He’s the only one I’d bid on at pick one or two.
It’s a pipe dream because teams never do that but you do not get addinsall. Gold Coast match because they would have traded early picks for points and the player they could pick up instead at their next pick will be vastly inferior.
 
It’s a pipe dream because teams never do that but you do not get addinsall. Gold Coast match because they would have traded early picks for points and the player they could pick up instead at their next pick will be vastly inferior.
You get him because they will have burnt all there points on Uwland and Patterson. I’d be surprised if they match a bid at pick 4/5 for a bloke that struggles to be a first round talent. Anyway it’s irrelevant it won’t happen it’s a waste of our time discussing really. 👍🏻
 

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Pick 1. WCE select Dan Annable [Brisbane match]
Pick 2. WCE select Zeke Uwland [GCS match]
Pick 3. WCE select Beau Addinsall [GCS match]
Pick 4. WCE select Dylan Patterson [GWS match]
Pick 5. WCE select Dyson Sharp
Pick 6. WCE select Willem Duursma

Pick 19 [Hawks first] WCE Select Kalani White
Pick 40 [WCE second round] WCE select Cody Curtin

Pick 45 GCS select Charlie Banfield [WCE match]
Pick 47 GCS select Wes Walley [WCE match]

etc etc. **** em.

I would not be bidding on Addinsall or Patterson at 1 or Uwland at this stage. If Uwland has a great end of season sure.

Also 100% no bid on White at that stage, it won't be matched.

Curtin needs to lose weight and show he has more agility and speed as otherwise he's a ruck/forward with less agility than Williams.

Also unless Walley does a lot more I'm not interested in picking him up unless we get more Cat B and or rookie picks as part of an AFL assistance package. Williams, Banfield and Evans are the pick of our NGA's and FS imo.
 
Rodriguez reminds me a lot of Sheed in that at the next level he would be more of a stoppage clearance player and using his skills outside. I don't see him as a starting inside mid.

I always look at list needs in regards to the players i'm looking to draft. Rodriguez certainly has the skills when in space but I wouldn't be committing to him without seeing his speed and agility testing at the combine.
 
Ive got a real soft spot for Duggo and cannot fault the bloke as being one of the more likeable sort of lads you'd want your daughter to bring home with them but there's no argument Starcevich wouldn't improve us by about 3 dump kick turn over goals per game.

It's taken me longer than many to take my blinkers off about Duggan but he will be replaced as captain next year to loosen the shackles for him to play in the twos and unless he can become a viable forward half player maybe chopping out in the mid I think he'll end up steering the ship in the WAFL.
 
I mean this is a clear problem. So many teams just bouncing down the bottom trading out one good player then straight back up into finals again with all their high picks! Just look at North and us!🤪
We're wrong - free agency was designed to allow players to move freely to lower clubs to help the lower ranked club.

I forgot this was a key benefit of implementing Free Agency - according to the VFL
 
I've come full circle and now believe it's better for us to not bid on the 3 academy top players in this draft that would go 1,2,3 in an open pool.

It's the best way to push back at the Melbourne elites that run our game. It's supposed to be the AFL not the vfl.
I see it the other way - clubs electing not to bid on academy/father sons at their rightful place means receiving clubs get a secondary advantage and get the player at a discount.

Eg Daicos (x2) and Ashcroft (1 maybe two) should have been bid earlier than they went - but oppo clubs want to be the good guys and let them slide.

Oppo clubs need to grow a set and make clubs with academy and father/son selections pay market rate not reduced rate.
 
Mid season Draft; another late call on a player Yeo. We have done it consistently. Nik Nat example. It doesnt cost a lot why not pick as many as you can you never know you may find a gun. Yeo should have been listed long term a long time ago.
Took a long time for the AFL panel to make a decision on Gov too.
 
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