List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[Wight Wolf]

we already have petch

Stahp

 

[Scotland]

We need AFL quality players in our AFL team and WAFL quality players in our WAFL team to be competitive and help our young players develop. Having a WAFL team made up of kids, ammos and cast-offs hurts the development of our kids. If we can get more fringe AFL players in our WAFL team, the whole club benefits.

We're hamstrung by the WAFL arrangement where every non AFL-listed player is effectively below WAFL standard. The more injuries we have at AFL level the closer to the bottom of the barrel we need to scrape to find a team. The Beagles don't have ressies and colts like everyone else.

Players like Nelson and Brayshaw who are what we need didn't stick around. I am not 100% across how the rules work but Jamaine Jones, Josh Rotham, Zane Trew are playing WAFL this year. Connor West is 26 and playing ammos. Sticking around to play for the Beagles does not seem to appeal to most players.

If we add players to the AFL list to improve the WAFL side were robbing Peter to pay Paul as we have a capped AFL list size. One of the few positives this year (if you can call it that) is that our WAFL team has actually had listed players in it. The team still isn't good but 2 wins 67% is better than last years 4 wins 57% or 2023's 0 wins 39% for the year. 2022 was 1 win 49%. I remember looking at the game day stats and seeing maybe 2 or 3 listed players in the team, and they were usually kids with no AFL experience. Compare that to Peel's last game they had Erasmus, Sturt, Sharp, Reidy, Davies, Narkle, Brodie, Draper, Aish all playing. I think we'd be in a better position if we had more than 2 or 3 recognised AFL players in the WAFL side each week which will take time because of where the list is right now. Kelly, Hunt, Petch playing WAFL isn't good for them but it's huge for the Beagles as we have so few experienced players vying for spots in the seniors.

Just had a look and the Giants and Swans are playing now in the VFL. Ollie Florent, Taylor Adams, Robbie Fox, Corey Warner, Peter Ladhams are all playing for Sydney as well as some younger players you would expect to see in the ressies. All of those guys would probably be picked in our AFL side this week let alone in the WAFL.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

We're hamstrung by the WAFL arrangement where every non AFL-listed player is effectively below WAFL standard.

Not quite every player, certainly guys like Sparks, Edwards-Baldwin and Lucassen have proved themselves up to the level.

Definitely suffering from the decision to effectively not replace Nelson and Ruscoe though.

 

[Astro7]

TK been putrid this season - though a few commentators have flagged he's not moving quite right/looks inhibited this season (i think Simmo was one of them).

I wonder whether he's carrying something & (hope) that we might see a better version of TK next season.

He's been very good for us pre-2025, and this season was a massive drop in performance. He also might have just hit that cliff the rest of our 30yos have hit...

Been with WC for 6 yrs. How long does it take?
Since 2025 going back each year, kicked goals - 2025 = 2, 2024 = 4, 2023 = 10, 2022 = 6, 2021 = 6, 2020 = 5. For Geelong - 2019 = 24 (18 points), 2018 = 24 (16 points).
2023 was his best year for us, across all stats.
I somehow doubt he will achieve that again, but stranger things have happened. Like Harley, with a better group around him he might get rise.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Do any other clubs blow draft picks specifically for their reserves team or are only we (as in this board) dumb enough to be talking about it?

 

[southcoast]

100% it was the lure of playing in a flag, he was higher up the pecking order then.

Since then the emergence of Ashcroft X 2 and Fletcher has seen him mired in the VFL

I get what your saying - but Dev and his manager should have had more honest conversations.

It is one thing to back yourself in - but another to have unrealistic expectations. Ashcrofts and Jasper were always going to leap frog Dev.

Having said all of that I'm not welded to a position as to whether or not Dev should be an acquisition target but honest conversations were required two years ago.

 

[stallon]

Do any other clubs blow draft picks specifically for their reserves team or are only we (as in this board) dumb enough to be talking about it?

Some clubs blow list spots on fringe players purely as depth, which inevitably ends up being boosts to their reserves teams.
Sometimes they trade late picks

 

[Big_Birdy]

Starcevich more likely to end up at Essendon.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Been with WC for 6 yrs. How long does it take?
Since 2025 going back each year, kicked goals - 2025 = 2, 2024 = 4, 2023 = 10, 2022 = 6, 2021 = 6, 2020 = 5. For Geelong - 2019 = 24 (18 points), 2018 = 24 (16 points).
2023 was his best year for us, across all stats.
I somehow doubt he will achieve that again, but stranger things have happened. Like Harley, with a better group around him he might get rise.

You have to remember who TK had around him for 2 seasons in that cats midfield.! Duncan, danger, Selwood x2, Atkins Ablett menagola. Plenty of ball winners to feed him the ball.

 

[southcoast]

Starcevich more likely to end up at Essendon.

Yay, we may have been saved from ourselves.

 

[ziad]

You have to remember who TK had around him for 2 seasons in that cats midfield.! Duncan, danger, Selwood x2, Atkins Ablett menagola. Plenty of ball winners to feed him the ball.

He made them look good!

 

[jdisc]

Do any other clubs blow draft picks specifically for their reserves team or are only we (as in this board) dumb enough to be talking about it?

To be fair, are any other clubs last in both the AFL and in their state competition with a 60% percentage?

 

[Farang83150]

John Ralph via Sam McClure who overheard it in the public toilets at the Fortitude Valley shopping center.
Devs manager has flown into Perth today and told WC he will only sign on for a long-term deal, if WC sit on their hands and stall for time he'll wait for the Tassie team and join them.... More to come

 

[Scotland]

Not quite every player, certainly guys like Sparks, Edwards-Baldwin and Lucassen have proved themselves up to the level.

Definitely suffering from the decision to effectively not replace Nelson and Ruscoe though.

Not giving them shit, but the way it was set up we can't just go and sign Jye Bolton and Tyler Keitel etc.

I get why the WAFL did it but it makes it tough. It's not good for the comp having a winless team with a percentage of 39. I guess they were stung by East Perth winning 3 in a row in the early 2000s.

I have NFI how you fix it as every other club has long established pathways. I had friends playing in programs with Swans and Souths before colts age.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Not giving them shit, but the way it was set up we can't just go and sign Jye Bolton and Tyler Keitel etc.

I get why the WAFL did it but it makes it tough. It's not good for the comp having a winless team with a percentage of 39. I guess they were stung by East Perth winning 3 in a row in the early 2000s.

I have NFI how you fix it as every other club has long established pathways. I had friends playing in programs with Swans and Souths before colts age.

But we could go and sign two ex-AFL players with a combined 120 games experience, as well as a third ex-AFL rookie listed player (who admittedly wasn’t much of a contributor) for 2024. The rules haven’t changed to prevent us signing those caliber players any more. We just haven’t.

And we’re currently 2-11 with a percentage of 66, which is better than the seniors.

 

[garlic munchers]

John Ralph via Sam McClure who overheard it in the public toilets at the Fortitude Valley shopping center.
Devs manager has flown into Perth today and told WC he will only sign on for a long-term deal, if WC sit on their hands and stall for time he'll wait for the Tassie team and join them.... More to come

Dev putting demands on us for a long term contract would certainly show how we have plunged to the depths of AFL irrelevancy if true.

Just what we need is list cloggers not even bothering with a bottle of Puff Diddy’s finest Walmart 2025 baby oil…… depravity at it’s finest!

 

[Scotland]

But we could go and sign two ex-AFL players with a combined 120 games experience, as well as a third ex-AFL rookie listed player (who admittedly wasn’t much of a contributor) for 2024. The rules haven’t changed to prevent us signing those caliber players any more. We just haven’t.

And we’re currently 2-11 with a percentage of 66, which is better than the seniors.

It makes no sense. It's like we are historically bad and just pulling some of the stops to get better.

The Beagles will continue to get better if we keep having an injury list of 4 or 5 instead of 20 and our young players keep getting experience at whatever level they are picked for.

 

[TerryFilk]

Feels like there’s a deal to be done there with Essendon (not for Harley) but with pick splits, I think 1 or 2 and Hawks first for theirs and Melbourne’s first would be good, could probably land Cumming and Sharp with those picks anyway.

 

[JackOutback]

Do any other clubs blow draft picks specifically for their reserves team or are only we (as in this board) dumb enough to be talking about it?

It's not about blowing picks to boost the reserves team, it's about improving the development of the whole squad. At the moment, our list profile is shit, too many kids and too many old blokes, with a dearth (dirth?) of talent in the 23-27 age group. The end result is we're getting spanked at both levels, which isn't good for anyone. You can't just load up on kids, send them to the wolves and profit. Some like Dev was a fringe player in a premiership team, he's good enough to step into our AFL team and if he is kept out by the quick development of our kids, then he goes back to WAFL and improves the reserves, helping develop the kids there. We absolutely should be looking at players in this region, even if people don't think they'll be AFL stars, and phase out underperforming kids (Chesser, Barnett?) and older players that aren't as good (Hunt, Petch).

 

[chaddy22]

But we could go and sign two ex-AFL players with a combined 120 games experience, as well as a third ex-AFL rookie listed player (who admittedly wasn’t much of a contributor) for 2024. The rules haven’t changed to prevent us signing those caliber players any more. We just haven’t.

And we’re currently 2-11 with a percentage of 66, which is better than the seniors.

Wafl clubs have no difficulty clubs recruiting Afl/vfl players
This year Perth recruited Brandan Parfitt
Subi recruited Archer May who was drafted by Essendon in the mid season draft
West Perth recruited Roan Steele who got drafted by Collingwood in the mid season draft
There are players out there and West Coast have the salary cap to recruit them
Problem will they want to come and secondly if they are too good then the mid season draft looms.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

We're hamstrung by the WAFL arrangement where every non AFL-listed player is effectively below WAFL standard. The more injuries we have at AFL level the closer to the bottom of the barrel we need to scrape to find a team. The Beagles don't have ressies and colts like everyone else.

Players like Nelson and Brayshaw who are what we need didn't stick around. I am not 100% across how the rules work but Jamaine Jones, Josh Rotham, Zane Trew are playing WAFL this year. Connor West is 26 and playing ammos. Sticking around to play for the Beagles does not seem to appeal to most players.

If we add players to the AFL list to improve the WAFL side were robbing Peter to pay Paul as we have a capped AFL list size. One of the few positives this year (if you can call it that) is that our WAFL team has actually had listed players in it. The team still isn't good but 2 wins 67% is better than last years 4 wins 57% or 2023's 0 wins 39% for the year. 2022 was 1 win 49%. I remember looking at the game day stats and seeing maybe 2 or 3 listed players in the team, and they were usually kids with no AFL experience. Compare that to Peel's last game they had Erasmus, Sturt, Sharp, Reidy, Davies, Narkle, Brodie, Draper, Aish all playing. I think we'd be in a better position if we had more than 2 or 3 recognised AFL players in the WAFL side each week which will take time because of where the list is right now. Kelly, Hunt, Petch playing WAFL isn't good for them but it's huge for the Beagles as we have so few experienced players vying for spots in the seniors.

Just had a look and the Giants and Swans are playing now in the VFL. Ollie Florent, Taylor Adams, Robbie Fox, Corey Warner, Peter Ladhams are all playing for Sydney as well as some younger players you would expect to see in the ressies. All of those guys would probably be picked in our AFL side this week let alone in the WAFL.

Funny that. Getting rejected by the club they don’t want to stick around and support our reserves? Knock me over with a feather

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Funny that. Getting rejected by the club they don’t want to stick around and support our reserves? Knock me over with a feather

Nelson, McInnes and Brayshaw all did.

 

[Elite Pete]

List team already made their mind up. Chess on the bench and Charlie Banfield on his wing.

 

[sharps24]

List team already made their mind up. Chess on the bench and Charlie Banfield on his wing.

You think thats dire, they've named Hamish Davies at fullback for the opposition. On Jack Williams no less.

 

[southcoast]

You think thats dire, they've named Hamish Davies at fullback for the opposition. On Jack Williams no less.

You’ve confused Davies and Davis.

Davis on the wing.