List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[Get_The_Gaff]

Urgeee to get angry rising..... And people question why im angry. I'm going to leave my recent thoughts of Bo Allan unsaid. He's going as I predicted. He hasnt annoyed me or impressed me



You know what would be good if we picked up Sid Draper.

Because then we could play Fred Rod off half back flanker if he doesn't prove to make it as a mid. He has Elite kick

We are playing 2d chess when we could be playing 3d chess.

Any recruiters worth salt would have known Murphy Reid talent. Except us of course.

It's going to be clockwork seeing all these stars in the elite midfield draft rip it up. From Sid Draper to Murphy Reid to FOS to Lalor to Smillie

Lol Murphy Reid is a massive flight risk .

If freo were in our position they pick Bo allan too

 

[RanaNaved]

Urgeee to get angry rising..... And people question why im angry. I'm going to leave my recent thoughts of Bo Allan unsaid. He's going as I predicted. He hasnt annoyed me or impressed me



You know what would be good if we picked up Sid Draper.

Because then we could play Fred Rod off half back flanker if he doesn't prove to make it as a mid. He has Elite kick

We are playing 2d chess when we could be playing 3d chess.

Any recruiters worth salt would have known Murphy Reid talent. Except us of course.

It's going to be clockwork seeing all these stars in the elite midfield draft rip it up. From Sid Draper to Murphy Reid to FOS to Lalor to Smillie

If Bo hasn't impressed you, you don't know what you're talking about and your opinions on Reid, Draper and FOS are totally irrelevant

 

[bzparkes]

If Bo hasn't impressed you, you don't know what you're talking about and your opinions on Reid, Draper and FOS are totally irrelevant

Reid's also a full 10cm shorter than Allan.

It's clear we're going for a type to suit the gameplan, based off our drafting.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

Reid's also a full 10cm shorter than Allan.

It's clear we're going for a type to suit the gameplan, based off our drafting.

Eh, big athletic bigger inside mids are very valuable but every team could use a smaller nuggety inside mid.

In saying that I’m very happy with Allan over Reid.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Freo would have 100% taken Allan if available

 

[RanaNaved]

Freo would have 100% taken Allan if available

100% the truth. Allan, Berry then Reid

 

[Nuffington Post]

Let’s not forget M.Reid was playing against Freo’s B team


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[Keys]

Let’s not forget M.Reid was playing against Freo’s B team


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To be fair, Allan was playing against our B team as well

Happy with Allan. Would’ve happy with Reid

Think this is one of those instances where both clubs can be pleased with the player they have

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

Urgeee to get angry rising..... And people question why im angry. I'm going to leave my recent thoughts of Bo Allan unsaid. He's going as I predicted. He hasnt annoyed me or impressed me



You know what would be good if we picked up Sid Draper.

Because then we could play Fred Rod off half back flanker if he doesn't prove to make it as a mid. He has Elite kick

We are playing 2d chess when we could be playing 3d chess.

Any recruiters worth salt would have known Murphy Reid talent. Except us of course.

It's going to be clockwork seeing all these stars in the elite midfield draft rip it up. From Sid Draper to Murphy Reid to FOS to Lalor to Smillie

For all the things to be upset at the club over the last few years, the 2024 draft is not one of those.

We absolutely nailed the draft, and while overpaying in the trade for Baker, I'm not sure retaining pick 3 would have made our draft better.

 

[RanaNaved]

Reid's also a full 10cm shorter than Allan.

It's clear we're going for a type to suit the gameplan, based off our drafting.

The 10cm difference is meh to me, but how can you not like the eye-catching athleticism, assuredness and skill Allan possesses?

 

[CountryLad]

Was keen on Draper.

Having watched both Adelaide and West Coast pre-season games i think Draper looks more developed and ready to go than Allan (especially as a mid), but Allan has a higher ceiling/potential tbh.

Needs to be noted that Baker is apart of this too. Pick 3 which could have netted Draper moved to being Baker and Allan. Time will tell.

 

[Forward Press]

Time will tell.

No it won't. I want to melt NOW.

 

[Kegs15]

Reid's also a full 10cm shorter than Allan.

It's clear we're going for a type to suit the gameplan, based off our drafting.

In a few years IMO we'll see Ginbey/Allan rotating between defensive mid/HBF and my god getting past the middle and then the arc from 70-30m out will be a monstrous task for opposition.

Winning through aerial contests? Short of a KPF contested mark, nope. Maybe through pace at ground level? Nope, they've got that covered. Maybe through stoppages or general ground ball strength? Hell no. Could honestly end up just having to kick around these two.

They're also both complete energiser bunnies who won't stop ticking, so rotating that role could be perfect, with the defensive inside mid smashing vs the gut running, crunched in the air, sprinting towards the wing strain of HBF. Keep them fresh in each area.

Think we've drafted this one perfectly TBH. With how Yeo plays he was always going to be regularly injured as a midfielder IMO, just doesn't know how to run at 90%. But he was probably too valuable to spend 100% of his time at half back. Probably the only thing that could have maximised his career was a second Yeo - we've pretty much done this with these guys.

Think they (Ginbey especially from what I've seen) when playing midfield will benefit from a role where those around them (Reid, Hewett, Warner etc) are charged with being hyper offensive and creative and Ginbey/Allan just get to tackle, screw with opponents, grab the hard ball when it's there to be won, keep it simple. From what I know of Ginbey and have seen/assume of Allan feel like they'll do well in simplified, battering ram roles in the midfield to support the creators around them.

 

[WCE777]

In a few years IMO we'll see Ginbey/Allan rotating between defensive mid/HBF and my god getting past the middle and then the arc from 70-30m out will be a monstrous task for opposition.

Winning through aerial contests? Short of a KPF contested mark, nope. Maybe through pace at ground level? Nope, they've got that covered. Maybe through stoppages or general ground ball strength? Hell no. Could honestly end up just having to kick around these two.

They're also both complete energiser bunnies who won't stop ticking, so rotating that role could be perfect, with the defensive inside mid smashing vs the gut running, crunched in the air, sprinting towards the wing strain of HBF. Keep them fresh in each area.

Think we've drafted this one perfectly TBH. With how Yeo plays he was always going to be regularly injured as a midfielder IMO, just doesn't know how to run at 90%. But he was probably too valuable to spend 100% of his time at half back. Probably the only thing that could have maximised his career was a second Yeo - we've pretty much done this with these guys.

Think they (Ginbey especially from what I've seen) when playing midfield will benefit from a role where those around them (Reid, Hewett, Warner etc) are charged with being hyper offensive and creative and Ginbey/Allan just get to tackle, screw with opponents, grab the hard ball when it's there to be won, keep it simple. From what I know of Ginbey and have seen/assume of Allan feel like they'll do well in simplified, battering ram roles in the midfield to support the creators around them.

100% agree, absolutely looking forward to our team in 3 years time, we have drafted some outstanding players

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

Needs to be noted that Baker is apart of this too. Pick 3 which could have netted Draper moved to being Baker and Allan. Time will tell.

In an alternate universe Hawks don’t do the trade with Carlton and give us pick 14 instead of F1.

In that scenario, 14 goes to Richmind, we keep 3 take Draper, don’t get grego and don’t get Allan.

At the time I would have preferred that.

Now that I’ve seen Allan in our lineup I think I’m happier with Allan (and grego as steak knives) than Draper in terms of fit and long term trajectory.

 

[WCE_phil]

Was very keen on Murphy Reid, but let's not make any grand statements based on a couple of intraclub games.

I like our better balanced WA/interstate picks over last few years, always got to take things like that into consideration.
Just look at the trade period this year with a lot of 'go home' factor playing into many trades.
Freo even lose players to interstate clubs with no connection, so I wouldn't be basing too much on their retention history.

Good luck to Murphy Reid and Freo, I'll always support a WA side over a Vic side and hope they do well, but Bo Allen looks more than capable based on the limited viewing I've seen.

Look bo is at the club and doing his absolute best. He's a great kid. He should however be well ahead of someone like Murphy as Bo is one of the oldest and most physically developed of his draft class.

Murphy Reid was always a flight risk but not as much as say a sheezel, JHF or even Hewett. At some stage you just have to pull the trigger on the talent level. I don't however think Reid was the right pick for freo and their midget midfield brigade. Hayden Young imo is easily their most important mid going forward as he's the only one with genuine size.

 

[WCE777]

In an alternate universe Hawks don’t do the trade with Carlton and give us pick 14 instead of F1.

In that scenario, 14 goes to Richmind, we keep 3 take Draper, don’t get grego and don’t get Allan.

At the time I would have preferred that.

Now that I’ve seen Allan in our lineup I think I’m happier with Allan (and grego as steak knives) than Draper in terms of fit and long term trajectory.

gotta be happy with our drafting and steak knives!!
Whatever the drafting strategy is with the kids, we have drafted quality players and individuals and that will go a long way to them being successful longer term

 

[Easternkingdom87]

In a few years IMO we'll see Ginbey/Allan rotating between defensive mid/HBF and my god getting past the middle and then the arc from 70-30m out will be a monstrous task for opposition.

Winning through aerial contests? Short of a KPF contested mark, nope. Maybe through pace at ground level? Nope, they've got that covered. Maybe through stoppages or general ground ball strength? Hell no. Could honestly end up just having to kick around these two.

They're also both complete energiser bunnies who won't stop ticking, so rotating that role could be perfect, with the defensive inside mid smashing vs the gut running, crunched in the air, sprinting towards the wing strain of HBF. Keep them fresh in each area.

Think we've drafted this one perfectly TBH. With how Yeo plays he was always going to be regularly injured as a midfielder IMO, just doesn't know how to run at 90%. But he was probably too valuable to spend 100% of his time at half back. Probably the only thing that could have maximised his career was a second Yeo - we've pretty much done this with these guys.

Think they (Ginbey especially from what I've seen) when playing midfield will benefit from a role where those around them (Reid, Hewett, Warner etc) are charged with being hyper offensive and creative and Ginbey/Allan just get to tackle, screw with opponents, grab the hard ball when it's there to be won, keep it simple. From what I know of Ginbey and have seen/assume of Allan feel like they'll do well in simplified, battering ram roles in the midfield to support the creators around them.

Agree with almost everything, except that no Allan seems to have a bit more nous, lateral movement and finesse in traffic than Ginbey. I think this translates to a better inside mid in long run. Love them both!!
Ginbey reminded me a little rof Blakey on the weekend


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[WCE777]

Look bo is at the club and doing his absolute best. He's a great kid. He should however be well ahead of someone like Murphy as Bo is one of the oldest and most physically developed of his draft class.

Murphy Reid was always a flight risk but not as much as say a sheezel, JHF or even Hewett. At some stage you just have to pull the trigger on the talent level. I don't however think Reid was the right pick for freo and their midget midfield brigade. Hayden Young imo is easily their most important mid going forward as he's the only one with genuine size.

Pretty happy Bo is at WC, looks an absolute ripper player in the making.
Also pretty happy Shanahan, Gross, Grego, Davis and Champion are showing a fair bit in this pre-season, got a few players in the making there!
I guess this will always be a problem with recruiting, WA clubs especially with some Vic kids are known as very high risk and makes it very difficult to draft the best of the best.
bl..dy credit to WC over the years for not only identifying at risk talent and not drafting them, but retaining most of their talent they have.

 

[ziad]

Eh, big athletic bigger inside mids are very valuable but every team could use a smaller nuggety inside mid.

In saying that I’m very happy with Allan over Reid.

Good big player beats a good small player - depends on how good!

 

[briztoon]

In an alternate universe Hawks don’t do the trade with Carlton and give us pick 14 instead of F1.

In that scenario, 14 goes to Richmind, we keep 3 take Draper, don’t get grego and don’t get Allan.

At the time I would have preferred that.

Now that I’ve seen Allan in our lineup I think I’m happier with Allan (and grego as steak knives) than Draper in terms of fit and long term trajectory.

Why is Carlton giving you pick 14 in this scenario?

 

[Keys]

Why is Carlton giving you pick 14 in this scenario?

They don’t. Hawthorn do because their trade with Carlton didn’t happen in this hypothetical

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

Good big player beats a good small player - depends on how good!

It’s not a like for like though.

Being smaller means your centre of gravity is lower which helps you be clean with the ground balls. Think of Neale, Serong etc.

The obvious exception is a guy like Bont who is ridiculously clean for his size, but that’s why he’s probably the best ever to play for his club.

It’s not just about how x and y player match up on each other. It’s about how the midfield works as a unit and there is huge value in having a medium sized mid in your rotations.

 

[Obeanie1]

Good big player beats a good small player - depends on how good!

You can't match your opponents agility and speed.......you get found out.

 

[briztoon]

You can't match your opponents agility and speed.......you get found out.

Further to this, rarely do such players go head to head.

Teams will put a bigger, negating player on players such as Bontempeli or Cripps, while smaller more agile players tag the likes of Neale or Serong.

Yes Neale and Cripps are going for the same ball, but they’re not matched up on each other.