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List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)
  • Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
  • Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
  • Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
  • Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
  • Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
  • Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
  • Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
  • (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order
 

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Bender_ said:
Are we assuming that the AFL aren't letting the Suns cook their books though?
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Not sure the Suns will need to, they are going to be able to afford to lose an Anderson or Rowell and be able to replace 90% of their production through an academy kid on a cheaper contract, and they can rinse repeat year on year. The days of them losing a senior player setting the club back and gone.
 
Bender_ said:
Are we assuming that the AFL aren't letting the Suns cook their books though?
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Hopefully when they realise the monster they’ve created by being initially poorly resourced then massively over compensating they won’t interfere.

Who am I kidding, Suns to 5-peat 27-31.

Even without those two their midfield will be Miller, Flanders, Uwland, Rogers, Patterson, Addinsall, Humphrey, Lombard and whatever else comes off the production line in the next few years.
 
So being where we are in the Season and on the Ladder I'm sure talks between club and managers will start to heat up.
Here's my take on some players that have been linked to us and my gut feel of the chances of it happening.
Im sure there's others out there who know more than me and those that have friends of friends in the industry so feel free to correct me.
My early prediction is we take another 2-4 experienced players, 3-4 first rounders and 2-4 FS and NGA's, how that happens is another lengthy post.
What I think is most likely? Cameron, Mcvee and a Mid (would love Worpel but most likely a fringe 22 player)

Trade Targets:

JUDD MCVEE (2025) 90%
DARCY CAMERON (2026) 85%
ANGUS SHELDRICK (2025) 80%
NEIL ERASMUS (2025) 75%
WILL PHILLIPS (2025) 75%
JEDD BUSSLINGER (2026) 60%
JACOB BLIGHT (1 YR Trigger, 2026) 60%
BRANDON STARCEVICH (Restricted Free Agent) 50%
JAMES WORPEL (Restricted Free Agent) 50%
TRENT RIVERS (2027) 20%
SAM FLANDERS (2027) 10%
PATRICK CRIPPS (2027) 2%
MARCUS BONTEMPELLI (Unrestricted Free Agent) 1%
*Honourable mentions - ROB, DEV, DRAPER, DARCY, TSATAS, DAVIES, MCKENZIE

• Cameron, I think this gets done. We've been in his ear for a while now, gets paid and finishes his career back in the West.
• Judd Mcvee, Im going with more likely than Cameron. Unsigned, right age, and we need another HBF, sorry Hunt thanks for everything.
• Starcevich, would come for free but would dilute ant FA compensation, is also one good knock away from joining Gov on the sidelines.
• Rivers, contracted and mates with Jackson at Freo, don't think this happens. Almost 0% this year but expect we would ask the question next year and beyond.
• Busslinger, we need backs and he needs playing time, win win. As with Cameron though would need picks, need two end of first compensation picks to trade!
• Blight, again nothing to suggest he gets to us but we were apparently interested when he was drafted and another West Aussie back man. Would be cheaper than most in a position of need. Would be an upgrade to the likes of Jamieson and Barnett.
• Sheldrick, has a contract in front of him but still hasn't signed which sounds like a real possibility he has a better offer elsewhere.
• Erasmus, Gettable but we don't do deals with Freo so this one probably only happens if the rest of our Midfield targets don't eventuate.
• Phillips, if you can believe what you read then we've been in contact with his agent, probably just putting out feelers but he fills a need as that extractor for Harley an co.
• Worpel, why wouldn't we have a real go. He feels like a similar one to the Redden trade, no ties to us but an experienced Mid in the right age bracket is exactly what we need.
• Flanders, another Victorian in contract. Highly unlikely, but never say never.
• Bontempelli, so your saying there's a chance. Why would he leave the Dogs though? Apparently likes the West in the off season and would he chase what he's worth in his last few years, we have the $ to make him look twice maybe.
• Cripps, twice as likely as the Bont due to being from Perth and a WCE supporter as a kid, but captains rarely leave their club (inserts Allen's name here)
 
1986 said:
So being where we are in the Season and on the Ladder I'm sure talks between club and managers will start to heat up.
Here's my take on some players that have been linked to us and my gut feel of the chances of it happening.
Im sure there's others out there who know more than me and those that have friends of friends in the industry so feel free to correct me.
My early prediction is we take another 2-4 experienced players, 3-4 first rounders and 2-4 FS and NGA's, how that happens is another lengthy post.
What I think is most likely? Cameron, Mcvee and a Mid (would love Worpel but most likely a fringe 22 player)

Trade Targets:

JUDD MCVEE (2025) 90%
DARCY CAMERON (2026) 85%
ANGUS SHELDRICK (2025) 80%
NEIL ERASMUS (2025) 75%
WILL PHILLIPS (2025) 75%
JEDD BUSSLINGER (2026) 60%
JACOB BLIGHT (1 YR Trigger, 2026) 60%
BRANDON STARCEVICH (Restricted Free Agent) 50%
JAMES WORPEL (Restricted Free Agent) 50%
TRENT RIVERS (2027) 20%
SAM FLANDERS (2027) 10%
PATRICK CRIPPS (2027) 2%
MARCUS BONTEMPELLI (Unrestricted Free Agent) 1%
*Honourable mentions - ROB, DEV, DRAPER, DARCY, TSATAS, DAVIES, MCKENZIE

• Cameron, I think this gets done. We've been in his ear for a while now, gets paid and finishes his career back in the West.
• Judd Mcvee, Im going with more likely than Cameron. Unsigned, right age, and we need another HBF, sorry Hunt thanks for everything.
• Starcevich, would come for free but would dilute ant FA compensation, is also one good knock away from joining Gov on the sidelines.
• Rivers, contracted and mates with Jackson at Freo, don't think this happens. Almost 0% this year but expect we would ask the question next year and beyond.
• Busslinger, we need backs and he needs playing time, win win. As with Cameron though would need picks, need two end of first compensation picks to trade!
• Blight, again nothing to suggest he gets to us but we were apparently interested when he was drafted and another West Aussie back man. Would be cheaper than most in a position of need. Would be an upgrade to the likes of Jamieson and Barnett.
• Sheldrick, has a contract in front of him but still hasn't signed which sounds like a real possibility he has a better offer elsewhere.
• Erasmus, Gettable but we don't do deals with Freo so this one probably only happens if the rest of our Midfield targets don't eventuate.
• Phillips, if you can believe what you read then we've been in contact with his agent, probably just putting out feelers but he fills a need as that extractor for Harley an co.
• Worpel, why wouldn't we have a real go. He feels like a similar one to the Redden trade, no ties to us but an experienced Mid in the right age bracket is exactly what we need.
• Flanders, another Victorian in contract. Highly unlikely, but never say never.
• Bontempelli, so your saying there's a chance. Why would he leave the Dogs though? Apparently likes the West in the off season and would he chase what he's worth in his last few years, we have the $ to make him look twice maybe.
• Cripps, twice as likely as the Bont due to being from Perth and a WCE supporter as a kid, but captains rarely leave their club (inserts Allen's name here)
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Worpel, Starcevich and Bontempelli would all cost us our compensation pick for Oscar Allen not just dilute it.
 

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Sounds like the Bont contract negotiations with the Bulldogs are progressing. Surely we could’ve absolutely blown the Bulldogs offer out of the water in terms of money. It sounds like we never even enquired with his manager though, judging from Gavin Bell’s response on radio when asked if the Eagles were interested.
 
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Info changes. I received a very big one the other day about it. Which I shared via PM to people.
 
plays tall 1 said:
Sounds like the Bont contract negotiations with the Bulldogs are progressing. Surely we could’ve absolutely blown the Bulldogs offer out of the water in terms of money. It sounds like we never even enquired with his manager though, judging from Gavin Bell’s response on radio when asked if the Eagles were interested.
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Some things are bigger than money. Bont will go down as one of the Bulldogs all time greats, its a legacy that he wouldn't want to tarnish by chasing money.

Besides, as his career winds down, he'll start transitioning into media. Much more difficult to do when you're in Perth.
 
Marlin01 said:
I don’t want to lose Jamieson right now.

I think he’s a skilled footballer that might finally have his body where it needs to be.

He came to the club significantly underweight and needing to bulk. Precisely the type of player that requires patience.

He’s now 25 yoa which is prime KPD age, so can offer us 5 years of good footy. Depending on his ceiling, he could be anything from reliable injury coverage to solid starting role player.

I’m sure he’d stay for minimum contract and cost us bugger all aside from a list spot, of course.

It seems to me like we’d be getting rid of him at exactly the wrong time.

Give him 1 more year I reckon. If he breaks down, so be it.
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Wat.

He literally couldn't finish his last WAFL game. He's one contest away from being dead again.

As far as list spots go, Jamieson has had plenty of time. Between form and injuries, you've got to pull the trigger on him.

You don't hold onto a player for 6 years only for them to be "handy depth" at the end of it. Let alone an injury plagued one.
 
Schtinker said:
Worpel, Starcevich and Bontempelli would all cost us our compensation pick for Oscar Allen not just dilute it.
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Yep agreed. Bont won't happen and I would have thought Starcevich talks would have been pulled the moment he got his last concussion.
I don't know the ins and outs of trades but if it's possible to give Hawthorn the equivalent in a trade to compensation then that's probably a win for everyone.
 
Personally I think having a death ride future 1st or 2nd has been a great way to get through this turd year.

Im all for a F1 from 1 or 2 sides we can death ride

Hmmm... its actually hard to think of a team which will dramatically drop off the map next year from up high
 
Dark Sharks said:
Wat.

He literally couldn't finish his last WAFL game. He's one contest away from being dead again.

As far as list spots go, Jamieson has had plenty of time. Between form and injuries, you've got to pull the trigger on him.

You don't hold onto a player for 6 years only for them to be "handy depth" at the end of it. Let alone an injury plagued one.
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I agree with what you’re saying in principle, but feel like we’ll regret delisting Jamieson.
 
Marlin01 said:
I agree with what you’re saying in principle, but feel like we’ll regret delisting Jamieson.
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Have you watched his WAFL games this season ?

Nothing I have watched warrants being offered another year on an AFL list.

One of our easiest list cuts, I would have thought.
 

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Monocle said:
Have you watched his WAFL games this season ?

Nothing I have watched warrants being offered another year on an AFL list.

One of our easiest list cuts, I would have thought.
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TBH I think the same of Bazzo, Petch, Jamo, Barnett and probably Chesser
 
Cuzz09 said:
Personally I think having a death ride future 1st or 2nd has been a great way to get through this turd year.

Im all for a F1 from 1 or 2 sides we can death ride

Hmmm... its actually hard to think of a team which will dramatically drop off the map next year from up high
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Melbourne love giving up future firsts.
 
So with 44 players on our list - we are at the max. That is 46 less the retirements of McGovern and Sheed.

I thought it worth updating a ready/depth/developing list by main grouping.

I have highlighted in blue the retirees and in red those players that have a question mark on them. The question mark is because they are out of contract or in Barnett's case he is not looking like he will make it and we might just pay him out early.

No need to get hung up on the ready v depth v developing. I think we are playing some that are in the latter categories that in a top team would not be getting games. Brock, Hutchinson and Dewar come to mind.



With a question mark on 15 on our list, we obviously will not be retiring/delisting/trading the lot.
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We have the following draft hand

Pick 1
Pick 2 if OA gets us band 1
Hawks R1 (range 10 to 15)
Own R2 (range 19 to 23)
Hawks R2 (range 28 to 35)
Hawks R3 - purely a points play for NGA/FS

Apart from Montgomery, I would like the AFL to give us more Rookie spots so we can get 5 of the F/S and NGA prospects.

If we get a decent ruck (Cameron or Moyle), we could look to trade one of the Williams. Preferably Bailey but I would listen to offers for either.

Archer Reid needs to be sent down back. I think it is his best position and in the modern game, a KPF that is a crap kick at goal becomes more a liability. Besides, we desperately need another KPD.

So our draft needs to continue to address our midfield. That is why I am OK keeping 1 and 2 this year and getting Sharp and Cumming. A nice fit. I would also be happy moving up the board a bit to get Schubert as I think he would be ideal as a McGovern CHB replacement who becomes the attacking tall from defence.
 
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Marlin01 said:
I agree with what you’re saying in principle, but feel like we’ll regret delisting Jamieson.
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I mean, we saw how easy it was picking Brock up off the scrap heap, and he's come in and played more games in 6 months on the list than Jamieson has in the past 3 years. That really tells you all you need to know.

At a higher quality too.
 

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Jamison is gone. No idea how he has progressed in WAFL but clearly not in the equation and has to go as a neccessity of list changes.

I'm at 6-7;
  • Retired: Sheed + Gov
  • Free Agent: Oscar
  • Delisted: Hunt, Jamo, Petch, Rawlinson?

Just not enough players left to delist.
 
Yeah but at least Big'Orse stayed on the park. Was always available when needed basically.

Godson of a WCE staff member too wasn't he? That might've had something to do with it.



Jamieson is an interesting one. You'd think they would've sent him back into the ruck as a hail mary some time this year to save his career, given how pathetic our ruck stocks are, but nope.
 
Dark Sharks said:
Yeah but at least Big'Orse stayed on the park. Was always available when needed basically.

Godson of a WCE staff member too wasn't he? That might've had something to do with it.
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Nephew of both Monkey Brennan and Rob Wiley.

Also apparently a top bloke and great team man.
 
Miguel Sanchez said:
Nephew of both Monkey Brennan and Rob Wiley.

Also apparently a top bloke and great team man.
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That he was and the thing that set him apart was his availability, also had some positional versatility cover, plus when he was called on, while never setting the world on fire, he did a least put in a shift and none could even question his effort.

From a list management and cap space perspective, he never cost us a lot in coin and played his role happily.
 
We should be asking for at least 6 permanent Cat B rookie spots. Also we should be giving all Cat B rookies a 2 year rookie contract. Players need at least 1 full pre-season in the system. The first pre-season after being drafted is tough on new players so its unfair to judge them, especially NGA players, after 1 year.

This will also have the benefit of increasing the amount of Indigenous representation in the AFL, which AFL House should be happy about.
 
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