Problem with that solution would be them returning to Queensland and then needing to isolate for 14 days after. Perhaps the suns should return some of the goodwill of priority Draft picks etc by boycotting this rounds game
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Problem with that solution would be them returning to Queensland and then needing to isolate for 14 days after. Perhaps the suns should return some of the goodwill of priority Draft picks etc by boycotting this rounds game
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The article below has some interesting comments. Marshall has said that SA will consider the NSW and ACT borders separately from the Victorian border so both of these may be opened on July 20th. If that is the case SA will have open borders with all States and Territories bar Victoria on or before July 20th. As things stand we are still waiting for WA and Tasmania to grant reciprical travel arrangements with SA and hopefully that will happen within the next few days and we will be able to travel anywhere in Australia except Victoria without the need to quarantine.
About halfway down the article Chris Davies comments on the Power's position. I had not realised that GWS play Hawthorn this weekend which means that if we play GWS the following week we will have to quarantine if we come back to SA after playing GWS.
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A pity about the 6113 deaths the Netherlands suffered in the meantime.
Not sure where you are getting your data from but the Netherlands recorded 16 deaths in the past week. On 24th June The Netherlands had recorded 6097 deaths while on 30th June that had risen to 6113. Australia had one death in the entire month of June to take the tally to 104.
Enjoy your vacation, stay safe but right now I would sooner be living in South Australia than anywhere else in the world.
What is the right answer, I don't know.
Is there even such a thing as the right answer?
If Australia can open up our businesses fully (with some obvious exceptions) and effectively manage outbreaks is there a right answer?
A lot will depend on a vaccine.
United Kingdom: 66m people - 43,000 deaths
Australia: 25m people - 100 deaths
The Netherlands: 17m people - 6,000 deaths
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There's also no indication that the Netherlands is close to any kind of herd immunity which requires ~60% of the population to have the antibodies.
There's nothing stopping them having a second wave
Whether countries like the Netherlands and Sweden got it right will only be able to be known in the long term. If the genie can't be put back in the bottle countries that have implemented a hard lockdown will have to open up and face similar consequences as you can't keep everything shut down forever. Herd immunity may still be the long term solution and countries like the Netherlands will be further along the path. Also we've had 4-5 new viruses cross into the human population in the last 20 or so years (those associated with SARS, MERS, Ebola, now COVID etc.) so this will continue to happen into the future once or twice a decade. The new normal has to involve sensible measures for improved hygiene, detection, and protection of the vulnerable without shutting down all of society.
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More than happy to call garbage on Sweden.
There's no herd immunity no vaccine and a massive number of people dead relative to countries that did the smart thing. Sweden is a disaster.
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"To date, around 7 per cent of Sweden's population has been infected and developed COVID-19 antibodies, well short of the so-called "herd immunity" rate of at least 70 per cent, where so many people in the community become infected that the virus is theoretically controlled."
There's no herd immunity no vaccine and a massive number of people dead relative to countries that did the smart thing. Sweden is a disaster.
The dark side to Sweden's divisive coronavirus strategy
He's an unlikely hero of Sweden's contentious pandemic plan. Lauded by fans for his "Swedish dad cool", Anders Tegnell is also accused of allowing the COVID-19 casualties to mount.
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"To date, around 7 per cent of Sweden's population has been infected and developed COVID-19 antibodies, well short of the so-called "herd immunity" rate of at least 70 per cent, where so many people in the community become infected that the virus is theoretically controlled."
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There are economic impacts that affect positively and negatively people's well-being. It's a trade-off between two bad choices.More than happy to call garbage on Sweden.
There's no herd immunity no vaccine and a massive number of people dead relative to countries that did the smart thing. Sweden is a disaster.
The dark side to Sweden's divisive coronavirus strategy
He's an unlikely hero of Sweden's contentious pandemic plan. Lauded by fans for his "Swedish dad cool", Anders Tegnell is also accused of allowing the COVID-19 casualties to mount.
"To date, around 7 per cent of Sweden's population has been infected and developed COVID-19 antibodies, well short of the so-called "herd immunity" rate of at least 70 per cent, where so many people in the community become infected that the virus is theoretically controlled."
If the Swedish healthcare system didn't collapse, those lives weren't lost due lack of care — which is the point of flattening the curve. Did it collapse?
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In some ways it's good that there are countries like Sweden who have taken this approach as it gives us a gauge on best practice for future pandemics.
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How the NBA is dealing with the season re-start is ****ed.
They're basically bubbling in a heavy Covid area and don't really care if teams/staff get infected as long as they don't exit that bubble.
They're basically bubbling in a heavy Covid area and don't really care if teams/staff get infected as long as they don't exit that bubble.
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Yes the epidemiologist who created Sweden’s strategy sounded pretty matter of fact about their death rates .. said meh they could have done things better. A death rate 150 times that of Australia and if immunity only lasts a few months what a waste
It's only been a few months!
man, the AFL will be cactus if no magical vaccine can be sorted, then again who would want to get injected with that! i'd rather wait a few years like I did with the flu shot which I now get...
next will be some new pig flu they mentioned..... better buy that block on KI!
Absolutely. This is a complex multi-dimensional problem and everyone following the same strategy reduces the chance of finding a better solution next time it happens. Whether it works out or not in the long run is still to be seen, but I think it's good for the world at large that the Swedes are trying a different approach.
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Comedian Ross Noble stuck the boot in over Victoria’s new coronavirus outbreak during a hilariously savage appearance on The Project last night.
Appearing via video link from his family home on Victoria’s Mornington Peninsula, the British comedian couldn’t contain his frustration over the state’s exploding number of coronavirus cases.
“I don’t know if you’re across this, but currently the country’s going through what scientists call the ‘Spice Girls paradigm’,” Noble explained.
“Hang on – what’s the Spice Girls paradigm?” asked The Project’s Lisa Wilkinson.
“Everyone’s trying really hard, but Victoria’s ruining it,” he explained, to big laughs from the panel.
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Appearing via video link from his family home on Victoria’s Mornington Peninsula, the British comedian couldn’t contain his frustration over the state’s exploding number of coronavirus cases.
“I don’t know if you’re across this, but currently the country’s going through what scientists call the ‘Spice Girls paradigm’,” Noble explained.
“Hang on – what’s the Spice Girls paradigm?” asked The Project’s Lisa Wilkinson.
“Everyone’s trying really hard, but Victoria’s ruining it,” he explained, to big laughs from the panel.
The Project guest Ross Noble’s brutally funny Victoria sledge
Comedian Ross Noble stuck the boot in over Victoria’s new coronavirus outbreak during a hilariously savage appearance on The Project last night.
www.news.com.au
Remains to be seen. The Swedes are very pragmatic and get a lot of things right when it comes to public policy and social welfare. They identified early on that strict lockdowns were unsustainable and they could probably manage it without overwhelming their healthcare system and shutting down the economy. We may still find ourselves in the situation that our lockdown only delayed the inevitable and we have to learn to live with it while taking sensible precautions.More than happy to call garbage on Sweden.
There's no herd immunity no vaccine and a massive number of people dead relative to countries that did the smart thing. Sweden is a disaster.
The dark side to Sweden's divisive coronavirus strategy
He's an unlikely hero of Sweden's contentious pandemic plan. Lauded by fans for his "Swedish dad cool", Anders Tegnell is also accused of allowing the COVID-19 casualties to mount.
"To date, around 7 per cent of Sweden's population has been infected and developed COVID-19 antibodies, well short of the so-called "herd immunity" rate of at least 70 per cent, where so many people in the community become infected that the virus is theoretically controlled."
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73 new cases in Victoria, up 9 from yesterday with 20,000 tests done.
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Sweden have had 5 times as many deaths as Norway, Finland and Denmark combined for zero gain.
They shat the bed big time.
They shat the bed big time.
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And to add. Norway, Finland and Denmark have all eased restrictions after relatively short lockdowns. Restrictions in those countries are probably not that much different Sweden's and they're likely to ease further (just like states here other than Vic) while Sweden's current restrictions (eg, gatherings of 50 plus people are banned) may be in force for longer. Sweden's economy is also tanking. Got it wrong based on a number of measures.
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The really scary thing is that the numbers 'under investigation' go up every day. Forty two is a significant number of possible community transmissions across Melbourne. Hopefully none of the 42 cases under investigation will be fresh outbreaks outside of the designed hot spots.
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Just cop it like a man
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Always ahead of the game, I was asking this precise question yesterday
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