Corona virus, Port and the AFL.

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Everyone should be upset, very little good decision making in history has come at the instigation of a panicked mob. The rate of change and decisions being made by government shows they are not in control and not properly thinking through unintended consequences of what they are doing.

Much like the car industry, as soon as you shut down factories, businesses, disrupt supply chains as is being suggested by our two biggest states you can't just flick a switch to turn them on when everything is better. That's why china kept the lights on even during the worst of their crises. We are rapidly launching ourselves into what will effectively be a subsistence economy.

For those of you that have children or are young themselves they will never forgive the older decisions makers for what they are doing right now and trashing their futures.

So many countries rely on the trade and agricultural systems put in place and maintained by the developed world. Now we are all withdrawing in a panic those countries will likely collapse.

Millions will die around the world from famine, war, extreme poverty that will be brought on by the panicked and uncontrolled response of governments.

All this for a disease who's overall mortality is likely to track below 1% and has killed only 13,000 people to date. This has the possibility to be the biggest collective misscalcualtion in human history, since Europe unecessarily stumbled into WW1.

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If nothing is done in regards to the source of these zoonotic viruses we’ll be facing a situation like this every 3-10 years anyway.

If you’re going to fully integrate with the globe via trillions of dollars of trade and many millions of travellers, idk, maybe a condition of that should be STOP EATING BATS.

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Keen to have your bat and eat it too? 🤷‍♀️
 
I know lots of people here don't care about AFLW but how would you feel if you were Freo? 6 wins, no losses, have the season cut short and straight into finals, thrash your opposition in your first final, be well on the way to being your whole club's first premiership team in history (women's or men's), and then. Nope. Its done, pack it in, see you next year maybe.
 
Yep, some people just don't know when to change their tune.

I must admit when it started I was thinking it was another SARS or swine flu type situation and being blown way out of proportion. As time went on I realised I was wrong and if anything the world has collectively under-responded and is now playing catch up.

It's looking likely that millions will die, sadly.

I think people forget how bad Swine Flu was especially before it weakened, taking out an estimated 125 - 500k people worldwide in less than a year. Over 60million american's alone had it. I think it's a valid point that at some point there's a real risk that the measures taken to stop the spread could end up killing more people over a longer period than the actual disease, it's really a no win situation. It comes down to also what we accept as a preventable death, for example we know each weekend in Chicago the yanks are losing more people just in that city from gun fights or 138 drug addicts per day etc. I understand the worry about flooding the medical system though, this is also a good argument against councils obsessed with stacking everyone into shoeboxes together.
 

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Gil made the following points-
  • Suspension includes training
  • AFL to programme 144 matches (16 rounds) plus finals
  • AFL to work out fixtures over the coming weeks.
  • AFL to work on line of credit for all AFL clubs
  • No AFLW Premiership in 2020 because of the conference format.
  • AFL took advice from the Commonwealth and State Governments before making the decision.
I am not Gil or the AFL's biggest fan but I give them credit for trying. A week ago no one knew the State borders would be affected and that was a game changer. Should the AFL have started ? I guess that is debatable but suspending the season is not.
 
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SA also have plans in place to get up to 900 new ICU beds asap. I assume other states will be doing similar.

And all the extra doctors, nurses and other specialists to staff them? It’s obviously a monumental undertaking.
 
And all the extra doctors, nurses and other specialists to staff them? It’s obviously a monumental undertaking.

I will nurse you on the bosom of brobraham
 

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And all the extra doctors, nurses and other specialists to staff them? It’s obviously a monumental undertaking.
Yep, be interesting to see how. Data modelling and worldwide info has told SA Health these are the numbers they need. Pretty scary when you think about it.
 
Hopefully there won't be too many acute cases...
Unfortunately in this case acute doesn't mean what it sounds like but basically it includes anyone admitted to hospital irrespective of how badly affected they are.
Hospitals are not designed to cater for a 20 days stay per person in mind.
 
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