News Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread IV

[B4Bear]

Have to think the Republicans have lost a few voters for 2024.

They have literally killed off a large chunk of their voting base. There are elections that will be decided by less than the number of conservatives that have died due to the virus.

There are graphs (couldn't find them) that show the death toll and rate by state. Red states are the winners, and by a long margin.

 

[krakouers]

They have literally killed off a large chunk of their voting base. There are elections that will be decided by less than the number of conservatives that have died due to the virus.

There are graphs (couldn't find them) that show the death toll and rate by state. Red states are the winners, and by a long margin.

Something like the below?

How COVID-19 death rates impacted 2020 presidential voting patterns

In the 2020 presidential election, counties across the United States with a high COVID death rate saw a smaller increase in Democratic voters than in 2016, while counties with a lower COVID death rate saw a significantly larger increase.

news.northwestern.edu

 

[SonofSamsquanch]

Have to think the Republicans have lost a few voters for 2024.

As blackshadow said, Darwinism at work. Natural Selection.

 

[ferball]

As blackshadow said, Darwinism at work. Natural Selection.

Except most of them have already bred.

 

[SonofSamsquanch]

Except most of them have already bred.

I can hear the faint sounds of a banjo playing on a distant porch ...

 

[krakouers]

I can hear the faint sounds of a banjo playing on a distant porch ...

 

[see see]

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One of the all-time great movies.

 

[Zondor]

One of the all-time great movies.

It certainly delivered the goods. :stern look

 

[blackshadow]

One of the all-time great movies.

Would make my top ten.

No doubt if it was made today it would have all its grittiness sanitised away.

 

[B4Bear]

 

[Tas]

It is sad when 20k cases is a good result, looks to be on the downward curve.

 

[B4Bear]

It is sad when 20k cases is a good result, looks to be on the downward curve.

Not if you have a disability or live in a nursing home.

 

[Themanbun]

Hospital last night was absolutely ****ing chockers. Only 5-odd people in the non-covid waiting room and 8+ hour waiting times. Radiology units out of action, doctors treating non COVID patients in makeshift rooms, etc.

As plenty of us have warned this huge aspect to our quality of life is GONE.

 

[Tas]

Not if you have a disability or live in a nursing home.

Well, it has to start going down before things get better. It is what I meant, if it just kept going up and up we would have had to take extreme action to slow it down.

 

[Tas]

Hospital last night was absolutely ****ing chockers. Only 5-odd people in the non-covid waiting room and 8+ hour waiting times. Radiology units out of action, doctors treating non COVID patients in makeshift rooms, etc.

As plenty of us have warned this huge aspect to our quality of life is GONE.

Which hospital is this? I assume it is the same story all over the state.

 

[deanc]

It is sad when 20k cases is a good result, looks to be on the downward curve.

While recent case numbers are not surprising, given how contagious the Omicron variant is, the recent deaths and those in currently in ICU are, but a quick related question:
How many of today's 74 deaths and the 360 people currently in ICU were/are unvaccinated persons and/or those with underlying health conditions and/or are elderly..?
NB. I'm not trying to undermine the pandemic's impact here, just wanting to put the media's 'Deadliest COVID Day' headlines into some context, which they rarely even attempt...

 

[big_e]

While recent case numbers are not surprising, given how contagious the Omicron variant is, the recent deaths and those in currently in ICU are, but a quick related question:
How many of today's 74 deaths and the 360 people currently in ICU were/are unvaccinated persons and/or those with underlying health conditions and/or are elderly..?
NB. I'm not trying to undermine the pandemic's impact here, just wanting to put the media's 'Deadliest COVID Day' headlines into some context, which they rarely even attempt...

Does it matter? They're still dead.

 

[Tas]

While recent case numbers are not surprising, given how contagious the Omicron variant is, the recent deaths and those in currently in ICU are, but a quick related question:
How many of today's 74 deaths and the 360 people currently in ICU were/are unvaccinated persons and/or those with underlying health conditions and/or are elderly..?
NB. I'm not trying to undermine the pandemic's impact here, just wanting to put the media's 'Deadliest COVID Day' headlines into some context, which they rarely even attempt...

Hmmm, not sure, a lot will depend on what the "died with" covid vs "died of" covid pans out to be. 1 avoidable death is bad, but some people are so frail that colds can push them over the edge. In 2019 (pre-covid) we had 169,301 deaths, that equates to 463 people dead a day, in 2020 despite covid that dropped to 161,300, nobody is going to frame it as covid saved 8000 lives but despite a lot of hygiene care which crippled colds and flus we still had a substantial number of deaths. The provisional data from the ABS for 2021 seems there was more deaths than 2020 but less than 2019.

Someone old and near death is going to die of something, what pushes them over the edge nobody can ultimately prevent. The vast majority of deaths occur in those 50+ and heavily leaning to between 70-90 range where people have accumulated a number of comorbidities. Every day is a horror day if you are at the s**t end of life. So even when we lock down for very long periods, it mitigates some of the covid deaths, but we can't stop frail people dying, they will just succumb to something else.

Hopefully moving forward we can look at life more holistically and look at everything in our society and the way we live our lives that impacts our lives, a lot of people who are in a really poor state could have prevented it from occurring if we made better life choices and to be able to make those choices, people need to be educated in terms of what is good and what is bad for them. We make it very easy for people to sabotage their health with their diet alone, that is sad.

 

[Val Keating]

While recent case numbers are not surprising, given how contagious the Omicron variant is, the recent deaths and those in currently in ICU are, but a quick related question:

How many of today's 74 deaths and the 360 people currently in ICU were/are unvaccinated persons and/or those with underlying health conditions and/or are elderly..?
NB. I'm not trying to undermine the pandemic's impact here, just wanting to put the media's 'Deadliest COVID Day' headlines into some context, which they rarely even attempt...

Don’t know why this cuts off at December 31st. But you can estimate your answer from this.

Daily Hospitalisations by Vaccination Status - COVID Live

Live tracking of coronavirus cases, active, tests, deaths, ICU, hospitalisations and vaccinations in Victoria

covidlive.com.au

 

[Hojuman]

If people only knew what nurses really mean by a " code brown "

 

[SonofSamsquanch]

If people only knew what nurses really mean by a " code brown "

It is not the same thing that a swimming pool attendant means when they announce a temporary pool closure for "code brown".

What is a Code Brown? Everything you need to know about the emergency measure

www.9news.com.au

Code brown called for Victorian hospitals under pressure from COVID-19

The measure is typically reserved for shorter-term emergencies, such as a train crash or bushfire, but is now being used to relieve pressure on the hospital system for the next four to six weeks.

www.theage.com.au

 

[Nate7]

If people only knew what nurses really mean by a " code brown "

Grumpy old thread regulars contributing their loose bowel movements?

 

[andana]

BEIJING: China's postal service has ordered workers to disinfect international deliveries and urged the public to reduce orders from overseas after authorities claimed that mail could be the source of recent COVID-19 outbreaks.

China, where the virus first emerged in late 2019, has stuck to a strict policy of targeting zero COVID-19 cases even as the rest of the world has reopened.


In recent days, Chinese officials have suggested that some people could have been infected by packages from abroad, including a woman in Beijing whom authorities said had no contact with other infected people but tested positive for a variant similar to those found in North America.

China Post on Monday published a statement ordering workers to disinfect the outer packaging of all international mail "as soon as possible" and requiring employees handling foreign letters and packages to receive booster vaccine shots.

The postal service also asked the public to reduce purchases and deliveries from "countries and regions with a high overseas epidemic risk" and said that domestic mail should be handled in different areas to prevent cross-contamination.

 

[B4Bear]

BEIJING: China's postal service has ordered workers to disinfect international deliveries and urged the public to reduce orders from overseas after authorities claimed that mail could be the source of recent COVID-19 outbreaks.

China, where the virus first emerged in late 2019, has stuck to a strict policy of targeting zero COVID-19 cases even as the rest of the world has reopened.


In recent days, Chinese officials have suggested that some people could have been infected by packages from abroad, including a woman in Beijing whom authorities said had no contact with other infected people but tested positive for a variant similar to those found in North America.

China Post on Monday published a statement ordering workers to disinfect the outer packaging of all international mail "as soon as possible" and requiring employees handling foreign letters and packages to receive booster vaccine shots.

The postal service also asked the public to reduce purchases and deliveries from "countries and regions with a high overseas epidemic risk" and said that domestic mail should be handled in different areas to prevent cross-contamination.

CCP taking as much responsibility as #scottyfrommarketing.

 

[koshari]

Us Boomers did warn you

Some of us. I work with a bloke who refuses to get vaxxed. Looks like it has cost him his job, may even make him very sick when he gets covid. Quite sad.