Mega Thread Coronavirus & the AFL - Stage 4 Restrictions in Place in Vic - Part 3

[Gralin]

This is part Three.

Part One can be found here -

Mega Thread - Coronavirus & the AFL - season postponed. (Thread part 1 - cont in part 2, link in thread)

This is part 1 of this thread. Continued in Part 2: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/coronavirus-the-afl-season-postponed-part-2.1237935/

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Part Two can be found here -

Mega Thread - Coronavirus & the AFL - season postponed. Part 2 * CONTINUED ABUSE WILL NOT BE TOLERATED *

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/pages/covid-stats-australia/

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Part 4 can be found here:

Mega Thread - Coronavirus & the AFL - Stage 4 Restrictions in Place in Vic - Part 4

This is part Four. Part One can be found here - https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/coronavirus-the-afl-season-postponed.1236651/unread Part Two can be found here -...

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Australian stats page:

Australian Coronavirus Stats

Latest COVID-19 stats from Australia.

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[kranky al]

So was the spanish flu

In the last two weeks weve had more infected worldwide than there were prior to that since the beginning of covid.

if we could somehow harness the power of the handwaving away death tolls les is going to be doing we could possibly eclipse fusion as a power source....

 

[Stocks_go_Up]

Sweden has had 5500 people die so far out of ten million.

the equivalent of the us losing 180000 people.

OK now tell me the short term and long term costs on our economy/job losses and peoples mental health as well as children's education disruption on their mental/social development.

 

[mcnulty]

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

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Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

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Sweden's economy actually grew in the first quarter after it opted against a full virus lockdown

It comes at a time when the country has the highest coronavirus death rate in the world.

www.cnbc.com

Lol. News Limited?

NoCookies | The Australian

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[Les Malone]

Les has got to be close to the biggest tin foil hat wearing drop kick on this board.

theres an orange stain around his lips....

as per usual, it comes down to the TDS you have and politics

that is definitely your problem not mine

 

[mcnulty]

The Les Malone copy and paste mash:

“They literally gained nothing,” said Jacob F. Kirkegaard, a senior fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics in Washington. “It’s a self-inflicted wound, and they have no economic gains.”

Sweden Has Become the World’s Cautionary Tale (Published 2020)

Its decision to carry on in the face of the pandemic has yielded a surge of deaths without sparing its economy from damage — a red flag as the United States and Britain move to lift lockdowns.

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[Harris Specter]

OK now tell me the short term and long term costs on our economy/job losses and peoples mental health as well as children's education disruption on their mental/social development.

Could be worse, you could die or pass it to someone who is more vulnerable who will succumb. Why is this concept so hard to fathom?

 

[kranky al]

OK now tell me the short term and long term costs on our economy/job losses and peoples mental health as well as children's education disruption on their mental/social development.

Well we are back at work - minus victoria And our death toll is tiny

the us has states going back into lockdown and they havnt got close to controlling it.

 

[mcnulty]

Sweden’s Economy Grew Last Quarter, Adding to Covid-19 Debate

Sweden’s economy grew in the first quarter as many other countries sank into a deep recession, adding to a debate on how best to tackle the spread of Covid-19.

www.bloomberg.com

Sweden's economy actually grew in the first quarter after it opted against a full virus lockdown

It comes at a time when the country has the highest coronavirus death rate in the world.

www.cnbc.com

Did you even read that? That’s first three months of the year- first quarter. Most lockdowns didn’t start til mid March...oh dear..

 

[Les Malone]

Could be worse, you could die or pass it to someone who is more vulnerable who will succumb. Why is this concept so hard to fathom?

you can do this with the flu every year, even a common cold can knock someone vulnerable off the perch

why is that being missed, the stats point to this virus carrying away vulnerable people after several soft seasons of way below normal mortality rates

 

[Coaster2012]

false positives for a start like McKenna and Djokovic ( just a couple of high profile ones) which can put you out of action unnecessarily from work or sport

the test also does not tell whether you are active or symptomatic

its not the bubonic plague, its a flu

I'd suggest you do some research on the Spanish flu before making a stupid statement.

And the plague would be much preferred, thats easily treatable with antibiotics.

 

[Les Malone]

Well we are back at work - minus victoria And our death toll is tiny

the us has states going back into lockdown and they havnt got close to controlling it.

you mean you are, many people have lost work or are in the process of losing it as inevitable cutbacks occur, two mates i know have been given notice and a few via my wifes friends who are in the travel and tourism industry have also lost jobs, not actually sure you live in the real world, not to mention the huge unemployment we already have which in reality is bigger because of jobkeeper

you really show yourself up as not knowing much

 

[kranky al]

you mean you are, many people have lost work or are in the process of losing it as inevitable cutbacks occur, two mates i know have been given notice and a few via my wifes friends who are in the travel and tourism industry have also lost jobs, not actually sure you live in the real world, not to mention the huge unemployment we already have which in reality is bigger because of jobkeeper

you really show yourself up as not knowing much

Of course we arent all back at work - but theres more people back at work than say states in america that are back in lockdown

 

[Stocks_go_Up]

Only 800,000 job losses so far - no big deal. We can all live on Government support

 

[FreeTK]

you can do this with the flu every year, even a common cold can knock someone vulnerable off the perch

why is that being missed, the stats point to this virus carrying away vulnerable people after several soft seasons of way below normal mortality rates

Someone please thread ban this flog.

It is fine to have a dissenting opinion, but if your posts undermine trust in public health experts and you are peddling conspiracy theories you shouldn't be tolerated on the board as it is a danger to public health.

 

[Les Malone]

Someone please thread ban this flog.

It is fine to have a dissenting opinion, but if your posts undermine trust in public health experts and you are peddling conspiracy theories you shouldn't be tolerated on the board as it is a danger to public health.

well apparently its not fine to have a dissenting opinion according to you


what conspiracy theory or theories am i peddling ?, feel free to answer

 

[Toump Ass]

Sweden has had 5500 people die so far out of ten million.

the equivalent of the us losing 180000 people.

Just quietly I don't think Les and mathematics are on good terms at the moment.

 

[Les Malone]

Only 800,000 job losses so far - no big deal. We can all live on Government support

besides the ones of course that haven't bothered with jobkeeper or jobseeker, many self employed who just carry on, know a few cab drivers who havent applied but have lost plenty of work

haven't seen any public servants who relied on "best medical advice " to close everything down lose a job yet

 

[Les Malone]

Just quietly I don't think Les and mathematics are on good terms at the moment.

you were making progress and now it appears you have regressed ... again

 

[Stocks_go_Up]

besides the ones of course that haven't bothered with jobkeeper or jobseeker, many self employed who just carry on, know a few cab drivers who havent applied but have lost plenty of work

haven't seen any public servants who relied on "best medical advice " to close everything down lose a job yet

Of course the public servants/politicians have no issues locking everyone inside because they all receive full salary lol... Talk about distorted motives

 

[Maylandsman]

Someone please thread ban this flog.

You need the thread ban. In such a fluid moment in time do you think everyone will have the same opinion?
Get help immediately if you really think Les is undermining the public health system. Talk about being entitled and lit right up over a persons observations.
You know how to disseminate information right, with resorting to name calling. A pinch of salt...

 

[FreeTK]

You need the thread ban. In such a fluid moment in time do you think everyone will have the same opinion?
Get help immediately if you really think Les is undermining the public health system. Talk about being entitled and lit right up over a persons observations.
You know how to disseminate information right, with resorting to name calling. A pinch of salt...

We are talking about over 11 million infections around the world and 500K who have died and Les is talking about COVID-19 as being similar to a regular flu season.

His rhetoric is not supported by medical authorities who make decisions informed by evidence and the experience around the world. In fact, it is diametrically opposed, and continuing to spout his nonsense is irresponsible and potentially dangerous.

It's that type of disinformation campaigns that gives people a false sense of security and leads them to underestimate the threat that Covid poses to people, their families and communities.

If the only thing that happens is he gets a thread ban and called a flog, he is very lucky indeed.

 

[HirdyLannister]

134 Vic cases today, the curve has been flattered. Time to release GF tickets at the MCG

 

[Maylandsman]

We are talking about over 11 million infections around the world and 500K who have died and Les is talking about COVID-19 as being similar to a regular flu season.

His rhetoric is not supported by medical authorities who make decisions informed by evidence and the experience around the world. In fact, it is diametrically opposed, and continuing to spout his nonsense is irresponsible and potentially dangerous.

It's that type of disinformation campaigns that gives people a false sense of security and leads them to underestimate the threat that Covid poses to people, their families and communities.

If the only thing that happens is he gets a thread ban and called a flog, he is very lucky indeed.

Les for PM. I for one am proud of our Les for scorching up the importance pole. You hold him in such high regard, nice.
All the waffle you produced is just that...waffle. Especially the part where you take him so seriously.

If the only thing that happens is he gets a thread ban and called a flog, he is very lucky indeed. - Sounds very ominous.

 

[bonddm]

Geelong is OK isn't it, could set up a hub down there for some clubs.

At this stage Geelong isn't under lockdown, so yes technically you are correct. Surely the AFL makes the Vic clubs hub for at LEAST the length of the Melbourne lockdown. Fremantle etc have been there for 6 weeks now, why can't the Vic teams do the same length of time?

During the season shut-down, the AFL were rumoured to be contemplating setting up a hub at the RACV resort in Torquay. As of yesterday, the Surf Coast still had 0 active cases and it’s been that way for 2/3 months.

 

[NavyHair101]

You need the thread ban. In such a fluid moment in time do you think everyone will have the same opinion?
Get help immediately if you really think Les is undermining the public health system. Talk about being entitled and lit right up over a persons observations.
You know how to disseminate information right, with resorting to name calling. A pinch of salt...

sorry no. His opinions are idiotic - call them out. But don't ban people because you don't agree with them. "undermining public health" - please.