News Coronavirus Thread

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Are we suggesting Johnson faked having the virus and took up an ICU bed in the UK to what ... improve his approval rating?

Lol no. I mean he’s done well considering he seemed more dire a couple of days ago. He’s a clown but good to see he’s up and about.

 

[Flawed Genius]

Lol no. I mean he’s done well considering he seemed more dire a couple of days ago. He’s a clown but good to see he’s up and about.

Yeah and what's the go with his hair though

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

I don’t see the problem with Bill Gates that others do...

 

[Carlos Herrrnandez]

 

[Flawed Genius]

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Had been curious about these numbers. Are they the current active cases in Victoria in total, i.e., do we currently have just the 159 active cases in Vic?

 

[Carlos Herrrnandez]

Had been curious about these numbers. Are they the current active cases in Victoria in total, i.e., do we currently have just the 159 active cases in Vic?

Yessir. Hard to comprehend with what’s happening overseas.

I would imagine others not tested may have it, and they wouldn’t show up here, but the fact they are target testing those most likely to have it (based on the medical info they receive) with < 1% positives is another great sign.

12,267,582 Coronavirus cases in Australia - COVID Live

Live tracking of coronavirus cases, active, tests, deaths, ICU, hospitalisations and vaccinations in Australia

www.covidlive.com.au

 

[Del191229]

Lol no. I mean he’s done well considering he seemed more dire a couple of days ago. He’s a clown but good to see he’s up and about.

Mate of mine who works at the Telegraph - which is very close to Johnson for obvs reasons - said that it was the 24 hours when he went in to ICU that was crucial (as it is for all patients). If they could stabilise him in that period they were sure he'd be right.

If he got worse in that 24 hours, they thought it was 50/50 at best he'd ever get out.

They were really really worried he'd die.

 

[krakouers]

WA health workers in $1.5m COVID-19 vaccine experiment

About 2000 frontline WA hospital workers will be recruited for a world-leading trial to determine whether a common tuberculosis vaccine boosts resistance to COVID-19.

thewest.com.au

Coronavirus crisis: Andrew ‘Twiggy’ Forrest’s Minderoo Foundation to fund Telethon Kids Institute vaccine trial on workers at Perth Children’s Hospital, Fiona Stanley Hospital and Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital
Josh Zimmerman
The West Australian
Monday, 13 April 2020

About 2000 frontline WA hospital workers will take part in a tuberculosis vaccine trial in an experimental bid to boost resistance to COVID-19 and reduce the severity of symptoms should medical staff contract the deadly virus.
And if the results of the world-leading trial are promising, the drug could emerge as a possible preventative measure for the general population.
Mining magnate Andrew Forrest’s charitable Minderoo Foundation will bankroll the $1.5 million trial, which is being led by the Telethon Kids Institute and is now recruiting 2000 volunteers from Perth Children’s Hospital, Fiona Stanley Hospital and Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital.

At the same time they receive their standard influenza vaccination, half of the participants will also be given the Bacillus Calmette–Guerin (BCG) jab.
First developed in the early 1900s, BCG is no longer part of the routine Australian program but is still commonly given to babies in parts of the world where the risk of contracting tuberculous is high such as Africa and South East Asia.

The other half of participants will receive only the flu jab and act as a control for the study, which is part of a national research effort named the BRACE trial.
It seeks to establish whether BCG — which is already known to boost immunity against infections other than TB — has a similar effect on COVID-19.
Telethon Kids Institute Head of Vaccine Trials Peter Richmond said BCG’s long history of clinical use showed it was safe.
“There have been a number of studies that came out of Africa that demonstrated that children who had received BCG actually were less likely to die of other respiratory infections, specifically pneumonia,” Dr Richmond said.
“Interestingly, the other place that it's been used, which has also provided some supportive evidence, is as a treatment for bladder cancer.
“So in older people, it's actually instilled into the bladder when they have a certain type and stage of bladder cancer and actually seems to stimulate the immune system to get rid of their cancer.
“And those individuals who receive that therapy have also appeared to have a reduction in infections such as pneumonia.”

He said while it was still early days, some countries where the BCG vaccine was no longer in regular use — such as most of Europe and the US — appeared to be grappling with larger and faster COVID-19 outbreaks.
The World Health Organisation has endorsed the study.
Hundreds of frontline health workers have already died after contracting the virus from their patients.
Over the next year, trial participants will be closely monitored to see whether they develop COVID-19 or other respiratory illnesses and, if they do, how severe their symptoms are.
Dr Richmond said BCG would then be considered for wider distribution.
“That certainly would be something that you'd want to think about if it was successful,” he said.
“We're waiting for a specific vaccine but this is something that that may be of use to the broader population.”

Andrew ‘Twiggy’ Forrest. Credit: Justin Benson-Cooper/The West Australian
The Forrest family, through the Minderoo Foundation, have already spent $160 million sourcing scare personal protective equipment and flying it into WA from China but Mr Forrest said supporting clinical trials was another important front in the COVID-19 war.
“While BCG is not a vaccine specific to COVID-19, it could be a vehicle to reduce the spread and severity of the virus amongst hospital staff and limit the strain on our healthcare system,” Dr Forrest said.
“If BCG is proven to be effective the global significance will be substantial. This has the potential to be readily available and inexpensive intervention that could be used in future pandemics until a specific vaccine is developed.”

 

[Flawed Genius]

Yessir. Hard to comprehend with what’s happening overseas.

I would imagine others not tested may have it, and they wouldn’t show up here, but the fact they are target testing those most likely to have it (based on the medical info they receive) with < 1% positives is another great sign.

12,267,582 Coronavirus cases in Australia - COVID Live

Live tracking of coronavirus cases, active, tests, deaths, ICU, hospitalisations and vaccinations in Australia

www.covidlive.com.au

Yeah I take those numbers, terrific as they are, on face value, as there's bound to be some untested cases floating around in the community. That also feeds into my skepticism around Tef's suggestion that it needs to be 14 days of no confirmed cases for us to begin to lift restrictions

I would suggest it might need to be 14 days, no cases, with an increased rate of random community testing?

 

[Snake_Baker]

If you folks want to drag yourselves away from your charts & politics for a second.........

Science/Environment - Wuhan Coronavirus (COVID-19) - Pandemic Declared - Part 2

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www.bigfooty.com

 

[Orange Peanut]

If you folks want to drag yourselves away from your charts & politics for a second.........

Science/Environment - Wuhan Coronavirus (COVID-19) - Pandemic Declared - Part 2

This is part 2 of this thread. PART 3 IS HERE --- > https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/wuhan-coronavirus-covid-19-hcq-doesnt-work-part-3.1244122/ Go there for your Pangolin-rich experience /\

www.bigfooty.com

There are 20 charts on this post.

 

[7577969923]

Yeah I take those numbers, terrific as they are, on face value, as there's bound to be some untested cases floating around in the community. That also feeds into my skepticism around Tef's suggestion that it needs to be 14 days of no confirmed cases for us to begin to lift restrictions

I would suggest it might need to be 14 days, no cases, with an increased rate of random community testing?

I think that is probably implied in Tef's suggestion. If we stop testing we won't et any new confirmed cases. If people stop turning up to be tested we won't get any new cases. If we keep the testing numbers the same but shift to a significant proportion of random community testing and that produces no new positives I think we have to assume we are out of the woods.

 

[Flawed Genius]

I think that is probably implied in Tef's suggestion. If we stop testing we won't et any new confirmed cases. If people stop turning up to be tested we won't get any new cases. If we keep the testing numbers the same but shift to a significant proportion of random community testing and that produces no new positives I think we have to assume we are out of the woods.

If implied then of course yes it is the best way forward. I think the bolded way is the only way we can really be sure

 

[Snake_Baker]

There are 20 charts on this post.

Yes, but these ones are actually important.

 

[Snake_Baker]

I think that is probably implied in Tef's suggestion. If we stop testing we won't et any new confirmed cases. If people stop turning up to be tested we won't get any new cases. If we keep the testing numbers the same but shift to a significant proportion of random community testing and that produces no new positives I think we have to assume we are out of the woods.

Pretty much. The odds of no one turning up for <14 days with symptoms and the virus remaining active in the community would be very, very slim.

 

[Sillygit]

There are 20 charts on this post.

funny as that is, it did at least have this piece of info

Victoria's coronavirus testing criteria expanding as virus continues to spread in community

Victoria will have the widest coronavirus testing in the country from today with "anybody who has relevant symptoms, a fever, or acute respiratory symptoms" eligible, Victorian Health Minister Jenny Mikakos announces.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Carlos Herrrnandez]

Yeah I take those numbers, terrific as they are, on face value, as there's bound to be some untested cases floating around in the community. That also feeds into my skepticism around Tef's suggestion that it needs to be 14 days of no confirmed cases for us to begin to lift restrictions

I would suggest it might need to be 14 days, no cases, with an increased rate of random community testing?

Yeah if things continue in the current trajectory, I can see us lifting restrictions to Stage 2 at the end of April. But it depends on a few things like expanded testing, how Easter truly ended up with people doing the right thing (will be two weeks until we know the full story), how well we keep doing what we're doing.

With NSW and QLD still far behind the eight ball though, hard to see us loosening more than Stage 2 for the foreseeable future.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Unfortunately, there's going to be some shakeups & readjustment for some................

'Liberal Arts Degrees' Renamed 'Non-Essential Worker Degrees'

April 13th, 2020



More colleges across the country have been renaming their liberal arts degrees "non-essential worker degrees" in a bid to be more honest about what exactly the course of study entails.

"We wanted to be a little more honest about what you can expect from a liberal arts program -- sorry, a non-essential worker program," said Charles C. Kettlebrook, Dean of Winstonhamington University in Philadelphia. "Whenever people need to be sent home, to be frank, you'll be the first to go. It will be kind of nice for you, sometimes, actually, since you'll get to stay home and collect a check from the government instead of going out and being productive."

The colleges confirmed that nothing has changed in the actual studies being offered by the liberal arts programs, but now they can't be sued for false advertising. "You'll know right from the get-go that the pottery, French literature, or zero-gravity space station basket weaving classes you're taking are completely useless and non-essential."

 

[Sillygit]

Unfortunately, there's going to be some shakeups & readjustment for some................

'Liberal Arts Degrees' Renamed 'Non-Essential Worker Degrees'

April 13th, 2020

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More colleges across the country have been renaming their liberal arts degrees "non-essential worker degrees" in a bid to be more honest about what exactly the course of study entails.

"We wanted to be a little more honest about what you can expect from a liberal arts program -- sorry, a non-essential worker program," said Charles C. Kettlebrook, Dean of Winstonhamington University in Philadelphia. "Whenever people need to be sent home, to be frank, you'll be the first to go. It will be kind of nice for you, sometimes, actually, since you'll get to stay home and collect a check from the government instead of going out and being productive."

The colleges confirmed that nothing has changed in the actual studies being offered by the liberal arts programs, but now they can't be sued for false advertising. "You'll know right from the get-go that the pottery, French literature, or zero-gravity space station basket weaving classes you're taking are completely useless and non-essential."

"stop talking politics and posting graphs i don't approve of"

 

[7577969923]

Yeah if things continue in the current trajectory, I can see us lifting restrictions to Stage 2 at the end of April. But it depends on a few things like expanded testing, how Easter truly ended up with people doing the right thing (will be two weeks until we know the full story), how well we keep doing what we're doing.

With NSW and QLD still far behind the eight ball though, hard to see us loosening more than Stage 2 for the foreseeable future.

What does stage 2 allow us to do again? Can I go for a beer?

 

[ferball]

It is my understanding that we got to see a lot more of the Goodies in Australia than they did in the UK because it was considered controversial.

This is a scene that was censored for us in Australia.

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Bill used to trip on sherbet or something similar then Graham would hook him up to a machine and use him to remote view stuff.

I couldn't believe it when I saw that as an adult.

They were great. RIP TBT.

 

[7577969923]

Unfortunately, there's going to be some shakeups & readjustment for some................

'Liberal Arts Degrees' Renamed 'Non-Essential Worker Degrees'

April 13th, 2020

View attachment 857470

More colleges across the country have been renaming their liberal arts degrees "non-essential worker degrees" in a bid to be more honest about what exactly the course of study entails.

"We wanted to be a little more honest about what you can expect from a liberal arts program -- sorry, a non-essential worker program," said Charles C. Kettlebrook, Dean of Winstonhamington University in Philadelphia. "Whenever people need to be sent home, to be frank, you'll be the first to go. It will be kind of nice for you, sometimes, actually, since you'll get to stay home and collect a check from the government instead of going out and being productive."

The colleges confirmed that nothing has changed in the actual studies being offered by the liberal arts programs, but now they can't be sued for false advertising. "You'll know right from the get-go that the pottery, French literature, or zero-gravity space station basket weaving classes you're taking are completely useless and non-essential."

Aren't most of the graduates working in Maccas though? That would make them essential workers?

 

[Del191229]

Aren't most of the graduates working in Maccas though? That would make them essential workers?

Heh, actually they're telling you when you can and can't go outside or see your family lol.

 

[Del191229]

This is very interesting, plagues always create rapid political and social change.

 

[7577969923]

This is very interesting, plagues always create rapid political and social change.

50 states are way too much to get the US working effectively between state and federal. Consolidation into about a dozen larger states would make a lot of sense.