News Coronavirus Thread

[7577969923]

My mother in law‘s facility has been in lockdown since the start of the week. To be honest neither my wife nor Inare ever that keen to visit as she eats away at your soul, but it is good to see that measures are being taken.

So it's not just my mother in law then. Mine is on her way from Perth on Wednesday with pre-existing heart and lung conditions packed for the trip.

 

[Del191229]

 

[Horace]

I'm the same, however I'm purely judging them on the last month, how can you not be impressed (even ******* proud) of all the supermarket workers, managers, logistics chain over the last weeks.

Given the amount of abuse, the amount of hours and stress they've been put under. I mean, a supermarket worker has just been stabbed in Rosebud in the last few hours during this frenzy....

They've been on the front lines having to deal with the circus for most of the last fortnight.

Young Horace works at Woolies at the Pines in Doncaster and it has been hell there. Someone pulled a knife and threw a hot chicken at a Store Manager there last week. Quite ugly to say the least.

 

[arden station]

Seems to be an amazingly high number of MPs and celebrities testing positive for Coronavirus as a proportion of all people testing positive. I have no evidence to support this claim but am sure these VIPs don't wait for hours and days (on the phone or in hospitals) to organise to do the test. Maybe many of the rest of us plebs CNBF with all of that and are just staying home if we get a sore throat etc and will only take it further if symptoms get bad?

 

[Tas]

I do have an issue with this. They are within their right to do it of course but I'd prefer companies show good faith during these times (perhaps an agreement to not price hike until this mess is over).

They do not have a right to price gouge during a crisis, that falls under unconscionable conduct, the law requires that businesses must act in good conscience. Under Australian consumer law, that can be a fine of up to $10 million for a business and $500k for an individual... per breach.

Selling hand-sanitizer that cost normal price for $70 a bottle would be considered unconscionable.

It is not unconscionable for say a banana supplier to raise the price of his goods because a lot of his stock was destroyed by a hurricane and he has to raise the cost to break even or minimise the loss he is going to have.

It will cost more for say a toilet paper company to run 3 shifts a day instead of the one or two, there is higher labour costs, a lot of other expenses, freight cost that isn't locked into a contract can change significantly. There are some fluctuations expected in a crisis, due to availability, however, the ACCC would have the right to expect supermarkets to quantify the cost to them. If they need armed guards to man the toilet paper isles then that would be an example of justified cost. Profiteering from a crisis, however, wouldn't be within a normal right.

 

[Del191229]

I do have an issue with this. They are within their right to do it of course but I'd prefer companies show good faith during these times (perhaps an agreement to not price hike until this mess is over).

As you say there are those that are sufferiing. Some clever shifting can allow you to navigate through options (making smarter food choices) but for non-food items and the elderly buying items it can be tough.

There are also Australians that have had their hours cut or removed completely. I think back to my PhD days and you were surviving on a 26k a year scholarship with some teaching. Now with classes cut at universities only unit coordinators will get paid. Even those that signed contracts are stuffed. Research put on hold so research assistants gone. Try to get a job in the mean time...good luck.

If most industries are suffering at this point in time it's because they've screwed over the people. Amazingly that so many lefties in here are sticking up for big corporations...typically showing their true colours when push comes to shove. A crisis will always expose the wolves in sheeps clothing

Lol talks about "lefties" in the same post as mentioning how he got a 26k taxpayer funded scholarship to study.

Astounding hypocrisy.

 

[7577969923]

They do not have a right to price gouge during a crisis, that falls under unconscionable conduct, the law requires that businesses must act in good conscience. Under Australian consumer law, that can be a fine of up to $10 million for a business and $500k for an individual... per breach.

Selling hand-sanitizer that cost normal price for $70 a bottle would be considered unconscionable.

It is not unconscionable for say a banana supplier to raise the price of his goods because a lot of his stock was destroyed by a hurricane and he has to raise the cost to break even or minimise the loss he is going to have.

It will cost more for say a toilet paper company to run 3 shifts a day instead of the one or two, there is higher labour costs, a lot of other expenses, freight cost that isn't locked into a contract can change significantly. There are some fluctuations expected in a crisis, due to availability, however, the ACCC would have the right to expect supermarkets to quantify the cost to them. If they need armed guards to man the toilet paper isles then that would be an example of justified cost. Profiteering from a crisis, however, wouldn't be within a normal right.

The toilet paper company wouldn't change their price. That is not how the grocery supply chain works.

 

[giantroo]

Journalist reporting on Coronavirus on the streets of Lebanon collapses

 

[krakouers]

Edit:


AFLPA CEO Paul Marsh says the players still want to play this weekend.

However, there is still no guarantee round one will go ahead as scheduled.

"The players are prepared to play as soon as they are given the green light from the Government," Marsh said.

"They do have concerns.

"We understand the AFL's position on 17 games for the 2020 AFL season however given they've announced there's a 40-week window [to play], players have urged the AFL to consider a 22-game season.

"We're basing our decision making on the relevant experts ... telling us if it's safe or not.

"If we get to a place where they tell us it's not safe, we won't be playing."

 

[Groin guru]

They do not have a right to price gouge during a crisis, that falls under unconscionable conduct, the law requires that businesses must act in good conscience. Under Australian consumer law, that can be a fine of up to $10 million for a business and $500k for an individual... per breach.

Selling hand-sanitizer that cost normal price for $70 a bottle would be considered unconscionable.

It is not unconscionable for say a banana supplier to raise the price of his goods because a lot of his stock was destroyed by a hurricane and he has to raise the cost to break even or minimise the loss he is going to have.

It will cost more for say a toilet paper company to run 3 shifts a day instead of the one or two, there is higher labour costs, a lot of other expenses, freight cost that isn't locked into a contract can change significantly. There are some fluctuations expected in a crisis, due to availability, however, the ACCC would have the right to expect supermarkets to quantify the cost to them. If they need armed guards to man the toilet paper isles then that would be an example of justified cost. Profiteering from a crisis, however, wouldn't be within a normal right.

Good but I'm sure this isn't their first rodeo.

Nice little story about a truck carrying toilet paper catching on fire could ignite panic and provide them with justification...wink wink nudge nudge. Sure a nice sack of money to the right person wouldn't go a stray either!

 

[Passmore]

Young Horace works at Woolies at the Pines in Doncaster and it has been hell there. Someone pulled a knife and threw a hot chicken at a Store Manager there last week. Quite uglyto say the least.

Thew a roast chicken!!!

 

[EDFL follower]

Coronavirus has hit my cricket.

The league presentation night on Wednesday has been cancelled. Award winners will be notified and have to show up for media interviews and photos and Cricket Aus has strongly recommended that all cricket this week be cancelled.

Just so happens we are in the Grand Final this weekend. No word from the league about a cancellation yet, but neighbouring leagues have cancelled theirs. Luckily for us we've only lost 1 game for the year and will be crowned premiers off it gets called off. Not ideal, but the opposition are a pack of campaigners so I don't care.

Our league has also cancelled presentation night but hasn’t made the decision to cancel grand finals yet. I have seen the most recent email from crixket Australia and they make it very clear that they expect no more cricket to be played.

 

[GarnerSmash]

I had to attend an age care facility today. I was made to check in, asked questions about health and travel and then made to wash my hands.

Hopefully, we are doing enough to keep it away from that demographic.

My brother in law's partners Mums care facility has today banned all non essential persons from site. I suspect that this will follow suit for all others soon enough. My father in law is in an aged care facility, and if he gets this, he dies. Simple. I hope the same in place today.

 

[krakouers]

Thew a roast chicken!!!

"Its still good... its still good"

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Audio doing the rounds from today's Covid19 Government meeting say we are going into lockdown this Thursday.

I’m happy with this. Now feels like the right time.

 

[DR Tipple]

I had to attend an age care facility today. I was made to check in, asked questions about health and travel and then made to wash my hands.

Hopefully, we are doing enough to keep it away from that demographic.

i have family that work in an age care home in mildura the ******* cow that runs the lifestyle and activity's dpt took a busload of residents into town for morning tea at cafe this very morning despite the warnings

 

[krakouers]

Audio doing the rounds from today's Covid19 Government meeting say we are going into lockdown this Thursday.

GR did they mention how long for?

 

[Groin guru]

Young Horace works at Woolies at the Pines in Doncaster and it has been hell there. Someone pulled a knife and threw a hot chicken at a Store Manager there last week. Quite uglyto say the least.

Probably just cutting off a leg for him.

Sharing is caring.

 

[Snake_Baker]

I've got sufficient employee's to have to notify the state department of human services and have a formal session at trades hall with the full Victorian sub-comitee of the CFMEU in the liklihood I make them all redundant in the next few months.

Is this supposed to impress me or further your argument?

I think I've got a little bit of life experience on the topic of workers and their rights.

Yeah, directing the "trench" diggers with a clipboard in your hand..

 

[Pykie]

The players aren't coming out of this looking great at the minute.

 

[Tas]

The toilet paper company wouldn't change their price. That is not how the grocery supply chain works.

That isn't true, they would have a contract with the supermarket to supply a certain quantity over a defined period. For the supermarket to order an additional quantity of product over and above the agreed contract would require a new contract, with a different costing. I used to work for a company that supplied goods to every supermarket in the country.

If you need to do night shifts and work on weekend and public holidays to make additional goods, there is a significant change to the labour cost at a minimum. They would also have to bring in additional raw materials and you don't know how they are impacted.

Sorbent isn't going to absorb the additional cost just because people are morons. Hehe, made an absorption pun by accident. :stern look

 

[Horace]

Thew a roast chicken!!!

Yep.

 

[giantroo]

 

[Horace]

i have family that work in an age care home in mildura the ******* cow that runs the lifestyle and activity's dpt took a busload of residents into town for morning tea at cafe this very morning despite the warnings

What an idiot.

 

[Pykie]

Yeah, directing the "trench" diggers with a clipboard in your hand..

We don't use clipboards anymore and yes, generally I do direct people in my company to work when I pay them.