Could Cousins sue the Weagles?

[Steven Jones]

It now appears that the drugs charges against Ben Cousins will be dropped:

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22613347-29277,00.html

That being the case, could Cousi have a potential legal claim against WCE for the unlawful termination of his contract?

This could end up costing the Weagles alot of money, not to mention further embarrasment.

Additionally, it seems that the AFL will be reluctant to deregister Cousins given that the charges will be dropped.

That being the case, there could be an oppurtunity for Freo to swoop in on Cuzzi.

 

[Belnakor]

We should swoop in. Cuzzy would be reluctant to leave WA, and i think Freo should pick him up. Just think about it Cuzzy playing for the dockers cheap - how could we lose?

And someone should let the Eagles know you should wait for someone to fire the gun before you start running. What a bunch of fools. Their "favourite son" was sold up the river no reason, and when he beats the blood test it will make them look even more foolish. He was probably told not to take it by his lawyer. Expect some serious arse covering. (btw Weagles mods, you can't delete this identical post, so go **** yourselfs

 

[Topdock65]

Not a hope in hell Cousins will sue Eagles.

As I am sure if that did happen, WCE FINALLY will drop all the dirt that has`nt been made public on the disgraced Ben Cousins.

Bring it on Cousins .

 

[Scotland]

That being the case, could Cousi have a potential legal claim against WCE for the unlawful termination of his contract?

He could, and as an ex employee of the club is perfectly entitled to.

It would be a pretty clear cut case one way or the other. Either he has broken the conditions of his new contract, or he hasn't.

 

[Roundhouse]

Anyone can have their day in court. He can but he'd lose.

How is this thread Freo related anyway? Wouldn't this be better placed in the Ben Cousins board or the Off-topic board?

 

[Trump]

It is relevant because if Cousi has been unlawfully terminated, then (1) he probably wont be deregistered, and (2) it would seem acceptable for FFC to swoop in.

The dropping of charges is directly relevant to whether Freo should pursue him.

How exactly has he been unlawfully terminated?

 

[Trump]

That would depend on the terms of his contract.

But it certainly seems that the Weagles have totally jumped the gun on this one. I mean, Cousi is not just some blow in Rookie from Victoria. He is a former captain, former "spiritual captain", and premiership player who was with the club for over 10 years.

The Weagles basically sold him up the river as soon as he became a liability. This just adds to the argument that the Weagles are a souless corporate entity - they just dont give a shit about there players - to the extent they were willing to pass judgment on Cousins before the Court had even passed judgment on him.

Now that the charges are being dropped, the Eagles are certainly looking very foolish at the moment.

How exactly?

Cousins was terminated because he was socialising with the wrong people.

People not acceptable under the terms of his agreement.

 

[Belnakor]

Yup, they cut him loose as soon as he became a liability. Pathetic. I mean for ****s sake, one of his best mates just died, he is trying to kick a drug addiction, and at the first sign of trouble the club has kicked him to the curb.

 

[Trump]

Yup, they cut him loose as soon as he became a liability. Pathetic. I mean for ****s sake, one of his best mates just died, he is trying to kick a drug addiction, and at the first sign of trouble the club has kicked him to the curb.

So when Dion Woods went down the gurgler what did Freo do?

 

[Belnakor]

HCousins was terminated because he was socialising with the wrong people.

You are spouting the same crap on another board. He was not terminated for that reason, and if he was, there is no way such a contract is enforcable. You cannot write a contract with those clauses that is enforcable. If they said, don't go into northbridge, thats a different matter.

It doesn't matter anyway, it is clear as day they sacked him after the drug charges were announced, you Weagles supporters are just trying to protect your brand. Cuzzy is yesterday's news as far as you are concerned.

 

[Trump]

You are spouting the same crap on another board. He was not terminated for that reason, and if he was, there is no way such a contract is enforcable. You cannot write a contract with those clauses that is enforcable. If they said, don't go into northbridge, thats a different matter.

It doesn't matter anyway, it is clear as day they sacked him after the drug charges were announced, you Weagles supporters are just trying to protect your brand. Cuzzy is yesterday's news as far as you are concerned.

Any clause is enforceable if considered reasonable in the context of the situation.

Cousins would have been sacked regardless of this incident. That I can assure you of.

Also, did you agree with Fremantle's handling of Dion Woods?

 

[Belnakor]

Any clause is enforceable if considered reasonable in the context of the situation.

Cousins would have been sacked regardless of this incident. That I can assure you of.

Also, did you agree with Fremantle's handling of Dion Woods?

I wasn't aware Dion Woods was the spiritual captain of the dockers, an ex-brownlow medalist and former captain.

You would not be able to enforce that clause, it would go against freedom of association.

 

[SS_Fury]

damned if we do, damned if we dont....hes given us alot of grief over the years, half of bigfooty say we should have done it years ago, half are saying we treated him poorly. Cant please everyone.

 

[Trump]

I wasn't aware Dion Woods was the spiritual captain of the dockers, an ex-brownlow medalist and former captain.

You would not be able to enforce that clause, it would go against freedom of association.

So because he was a Captain of the Club, an ex-brownlow medallist and a supposed spiritual captain he should be afforded more support?

That's a pathetic viewpoint.

Dion Woods became a liability he was cut loose.

He too is fighting a drug addiction but at the first sign of trouble was kicked to the curb.

Throwing stones in a glasshouse pal.

 

[Trump]

You cant seriously believe the latest spin from the Weagles - they are clutching at straws here.

The triggering event for Cousins being sacked was his arrest in Northbridge.

Yesterday for the Eagles Administration it was all about Ben being sacked because "he has a problem...and the best way for Ben to get help is to remove him from the AFL spotlight...blah...blah...". They were running that line less than 24 hours ago.

Suddenly the charges are dropped and all of a sudden he wasnt sacked because "he has a problem" instead he is sacked because of "who he is friends with".

Clearly the WCE have been caught out here - they jumped the gun and past judgment on him before the legal case against him had been made out. Now he has been totally vindicated - Do the Weagles even have proof regarding who he was socializing with? I doubt it.

Get a grip Trump. That kind of sycophantic support for the Weagles Admin might pass on the Eagles board, but not around here.

You're sprouting speculation as fact, if you do wonder over to the Eagles board you will see I am leading the charge against our current admin.

I know for a fact this was the reason for his sacking.

 

[shibz_1989]

So because he was a Captain of the Club, an ex-brownlow medallist and a supposed spiritual captain he should be afforded more support?

That's a pathetic viewpoint.

Dion Woods became a liability he was cut loose.

He too is fighting a drug addiction but at the first sign of trouble was kicked to the curb.

Throwing stones in a glasshouse pal.

Serious?

 

[Trump]

Exactly, the WCE are just a bunch of souless ****s.

They have turfed Ben out because the damage to their "brand name" exceeded his value on field as player. It was just a cold calculated financial decision to cut him loose by West Coast.

A clause saying: "you cant socialize with person x, y and z" would be totally unenforceable. Imagine if your employer tried to insert such a clause into your contract? Such a clause would even get knocked out under Work Choices.

And, even if it were valid, the Weagles would need to produce some pretty hard evidence that he was actually socializing with these "black listed people". My guess is that they dont have any such evidence - they are just relying on what they have heard from various sources - that wont cut it in the court room either.

Why are you ignoring my comments in relation to the stark similarity between Woods and Cousins?

 

[Trump]

Serious?

His father died in his last year. This a year after being in AA contention.

He's now dealing with an addiction himself.

 

[Belnakor]

Dion Woods became a liability he was cut loose.

He too is fighting a drug addiction but at the first sign of trouble was kicked to the curb.

Dion Woods was playing in the WAFL last year, i'm not sure when his drug addiction started...?

 

[shibz_1989]

His father died in his last year. This a year after being in AA contention.

He's now dealing with an addiction himself.

Wow, I never knew that. I've known of other Freo players to have been "delisted" or listed as a "long term injury" so they could get themselves right. Which, in a way, is a better way of doing things. That way the media don't get involved. Not as much anyway...

 

[Trump]

Dion Woods was playing in the WAFL last year, i'm not sure when his drug addiction started...?

He played a game of Reserves for Perth.

After the death of his father, he was given no support by the club who were told of his drug problem and proceeded to sack him.

 

[Jeffervescence]

I think he had two charges, so even if the drug possession charge was dropped there's still the 'Failing to comply' charge to face. I guess there's still grounds for The Eagles to terminate his contract??

Either way, the situation feels a lot greyer than yesterday...

 

[Belnakor]

He's now dealing with an addiction himself.

Your trying to compare two difference situations. Woods obviously developed the addiction after being cut. You guys cut a guy because he has a possible drug addiction. Which you now have absolutely no proof he still has. And then you just trumped up some bullshit about associating with the wrong people to try and cover your arse.

Ben Cousins simply became a liability and you cut him. Those 10 years, the "favourite son" the club captain meant nothing when it became obvious he would cost the club a few sponsership $$$

 

[dominguez]

The possession charge will be dropped but he's still facing the refusal of a blood test charge. If found guilty of refusing the blood test then he must of had illegal drugs in his system, which is a breach of his contract and reason enough for all 16 clubs to stay away from him.

 

[Trump]

Because you are defaming Woods.

Cousins' drug problem has been reported in the media and hence there is no issue with us posting about it on BigFooty.

Your comments against Woods however are without supporting evidence and are highly defamatory. It is people like you that get Bigfooty sued.

If you want to comment of Woods' alleged drug addiction, then you need to post a supporting news link.

Im not defaming him at all, Im highlighting the flaw in your argument.

If you need to see it for yourself, stand in the taxi line in Northbride on a Saturday night and look across the street.

Cousins has a drug problem?

Has he ever said he has a drug Problem?