Crows Fan King Hit

[Alex99]

So if he suffered a serious injury would that make any difference to you?

Of course it would make a difference but if he doesn’t call him a dick head he doesn’t get hit. So no I don’t have any sympathy for him.

It shouldn't becuase, according to your logic, Dale instigating the incident so is the party at blame.The extent of the injury is irrelevant. Is that what your saying?

I do not condone what Dean Brogan has done and violence is never the answer but if the moron Dale never said anything to Dean Brogan in the first place he would never have hit him. Hence he would never have any opportunity to get injured.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

The guy is a drop kick, what sort of bloke spends his saturday to go heckle opposition players at the airport?

However Brogan has dug himself a bit of a hole by being sucked in and snotting him. Regardless of whether he deserved it or not, Brogan, has to act better than that. Im sure a fine will be adequate, surely he will not be suspended.

Actually I thought the guy looked quite obviously abit "slow" which makes Brogans action even more cowardly.

 

[WhyAlwaysMe]

Alright insults aside and ignoring the Brogan/Dale incident. If A calls B a head and B then punches A, who is at fault. Wopuld the extent of the injury make any difference to your opinion?

If you go out of your way to deliberately heckle someone then they punch you, you cant turn around and act as the victim and say "I was only kidding" when in fact your were not. This guy has gone out of his way to heckle people and well in his own words its come back to bite him on the arse.

 

[Santos L Helper]

Alright insults aside and ignoring the Brogan/Dale incident. If A calls B a head and B then punches A, who is at fault. Wopuld the extent of the injury make any difference to your opinion?

Yes, and it does in real life. By that I mean the courts. That's why there's different penalties in the judicial system for differing levels of crimes committed by one person against another. Whether you like it or not, unfortunately that's the way it is.
Brogan punched him once, and broke his nose. A stupid thing to do, but provocation is always taken into consideration by the legal system when sports people are involved. If Brogan had continued the beating with a kick, or more punches, then he'd be dealt with more severely, and rightly so.

 

[Alex99]

Poor form

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

Of course it would make a difference but if he doesn’t call him a dick head he doesn’t get hit. So no I don’t have any sympathy for him.

So Dale is at fault because of the verbal barrage, is that right? The extent of the injury should then be irrelevant as Dale started it, don't you agree?

 

[WhyAlwaysMe]

Actually I thought the guy looked quite obviously abit "slow" which makes Brogans action even more cowardly.

Yeah I wont be surprised if the media find out he had ADD when he was 8 and turn it into a "Brogan assaults the handicapped" story

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

Santos and Rory do you realise, using your agrument, the guy that king
hit Hookesy is in fact the victim. Hookesy had a history of being quite mouthy and apparently he was mouthy with the bouncer before the incident.

 

[just maybe]

Yeah you are right and it’s out of there hands but I just don’t want to see idiot like that getting away with that sort of crap. After all in my option he provoked this incident as apposed to being the victim. I just feel that he will try and play the victim card.

Of course he's the victim. He got punched in the face, crows98. What the hell don't you get in this? If you can't see the huge imbalance between him having a bit of a go at Brogan and GETTING YOUR FACE SMASHED you've got some serious issues to resolve.

Sure, he may have said something stupid, but it in no way justified GETTING PUNCHED IN THE FACE.

FFS...what the hell is your problem. How you can think a few swear words at Brogan justifies a broken nose is beyond me.

Allegedly he rang the Port Adelaide football club and asked for Nike clothing attire to keep quite.

Good to see you will post up any old rumour...

 

[Santos L Helper]

Actually I thought the guy looked quite obviously abit "slow" which makes Brogans action even more cowardly.

No, it makes the actions of this guys relatives and friends irresponsible. Surely you would look after a friend who might get himself into trouble becasue he can't control aspects of his personality?

 

[Alex99]

So Dale is at fault because of the verbal barrage, is that right? The extent of the injury should then be irrelevant as Dale started it, don't you agree?

So you’re saying it socially acceptable to walk around and call someone a head when ever you like?

 

[Santos L Helper]

Santos and Rory do you realise, using your agrument, the guy that king
hit Hookesy is in fact the victim. Hookesy had a history of being quite mouthy and apparently he was mouthy with the bouncer before the incident.

This is another thread all together. I've commented on that.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

So you’re saying it socially acceptable to walk around and call someone a head when ever you like?

Of course you shouldn't go around calling people names but in no way can you justify Brogans reaction.

 

[*PAF]

Geesh, reading this thread is like being forced to watch Days of our Life.

Some d***head goes to Airports to hackle players. Fact.
One player stupidly gets sucked in and hits him. Fact.

Player will now be dealt by Club, police and possibly AFL and all circumstances leading to alleged assault will be taken into consideration, including provocation and alleged manhandling of player by person. Fact.
Also, going on all reports so far, d***head will remain d***head.

What is there to debate?

 

[Mad Dog]

Geesh, reading this thread is like being forced to watch Days of our Life.

Some d***head goes to Airports to hackle players. Fact.
One player stupidly gets sucked in and hits him. Fact.

Player will now be dealt by Club, police and possibly AFL and all circumstances leading to alleged assault will be taken into consideration, including provocation and alleged manhandling of player by person. Fact.
Also, going on all reports so far, d***head will remain d***head.

What is there to debate?

will Stefano get away with his latest scheme ?

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

No, it makes the actions of this guys relatives and friends irresponsible. Surely you would look after a friend who might get himself into trouble becasue he can't control aspects of his personality?

Come on mate so now your saying its this guys family at friends who should be held partly reposnsible. Just out of interest, does the guy who kinghit the other guy and broke his nose come into the picture at any stage as far as guilt goes.

 

[Mad Dog]

some things are better left unsaid...

 

[Alex99]

Of course you shouldn't go around calling people names but in no way can you justify Brogans reaction.

I never justified what Dean Brogan did but if Dale (the fan) never called him a Dick head in the first place it would never have happened.


FFS Dale has to take responsibility for his own behaviour and Dean Brogan will be dealt with by the appropriate authorities for his own behaviour.

 

[noddy]

I blame little Jonny Howard & his bloody Liberals for pushing us head first into the American way of life.

Now we get all these Jerry Stringer wanna-be's wanting to get there mug shot on the tv.

After watching the 7 news tonight with poor old whats-his-name & his helpers wearing the Crows colours sort of made me feel a little ashamed.

No pity for Brogan either as thuggery on or off the field should not be tolerated & i trust the PAFC will hand out the appropriate penalty.

Somewhere around $5000 to the get-rid-of-Rucci fund should just about do it.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

Geesh, reading this thread is like being forced to watch Days of our Life.

Some d***head goes to Airports to hackle players. Fact.
One player stupidly gets sucked in and hits him. Fact.

Player will now be dealt by Club, police and possibly AFL and all circumstances leading to alleged assault will be taken into consideration, including provocation and alleged manhandling of player by person. Fact.
Also, going on all reports so far, d***head will remain d***head.

What is there to debate?

Aren't the majority of the issues debated on footy sites mundane. Maybe we could use another Bryce Gibbs or "next captain" thread its been all of week since we've had one.

 

[Santos L Helper]

Come on mate so now your saying its this guys family at friends who should be held partly reposnsible. Just out of interest, does the guy who kinghit the other guy and broke his nose come into the picture at any stage as far as guilt goes.

Are you sure you're not Derryn Hinch? The way you twist words is amazing.

If this guy has issues, then surely his friends would realise that going to the airport and harassing opposition players / supporters is not a healthy and positive pastime. Doesn't mean he deserves to be belted, but surely it's a high risk venture.
Now, without spin doctoring my comments, what's your response?

 

[noddy]

What is there to debate?

We can always re-start the Burton/Lade squealer topic again.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

Are you sure you're not Derryn Hinch? The way you twist words is amazing.

If this guy has issues, then surely his friends would realise that going to the airport and harassing opposition players / supporters is not a healthy and positive pastime. Doesn't mean he deserves to be belted, but surely it's a high risk venture.
Now, without spin doctoring my comments, what's your response?

You won't get an argument out of me. I agree. The guy should not have thrown insults but Brogans reaction was totally over the top and uncalled for.

 

[just maybe]

I never justified what Dean Brogan did but if Dale (the fan) never called him a Dick head in the first place it would never have happened.


FFS Dale has to take responsibility for his own behaviour and Dean Brogan will be dealt with by the appropriate authorities for his own behaviour.

That's not the point. It DID happen, and why don't you talk about Brogan taking responsibility for his own behaviour, as his behaviour was far, far worse?

 

[noddy]

I never justified what Dean Brogan did but if Dale (the fan) never called him a Dick head in the first place it would never have happened.

FFS Dale has to take responsibility for his own behaviour and Dean Brogan will be dealt with by the appropriate authorities for his own behaviour.

Mate if i gave or received a punch for calling someone a d#ckhead over the years i would be a very lonely miserable d#ckhead of the highest order.