Crows V Roos

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by Jars458
Do we have a spare spot on our list to promote a rookie?

If so

Parker should get the nod with our lack of big ben being fit.

Yes we do have a spot on our list. We are allowed to carry 40 players (including 2 veterans). ATM we have 39 which allows us to promote a player at any time.

Rutten got injured on the weekend and will be out for some 5 weeks which qualifies as a long term injury. We are also allowed to promote Parker for the period of 5 weeks while Rutten is out.

If AFC were going to do this, they would have done it by now but I might be proven wrong.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Crows Vs Roos Line-up

Here are my final selections for the match against Roos

FF: _ 32. Mark Ricciuto _ 22. Ian Perrie _ 5. Ronnie Burns
HF: _ 40. Chris Ladhams _ 2. Wayne Carey _ 9. Tyson Edwards
C: _ 20. Tyson Stenglein _ 26. Mark Bickley _ 36. Simon Goodwin
HB: _ 15. Jason Torney _ 16. Ken McGregor _ 18. Graham Johncôck
FB: _ 7. Nigel Smart _ 8. Nathan Bassett _ 34. Ben Hart
1R: _ 35. Rhett Biglands _ 23. Andrew McLeod _ 10. Matthew Bode

Int: _ 4. Matthew Clarke _ 11. Michael Doughty _ 3. Kris Massie _ 21. James Gallagher

Emg: _ 28. James Begley _ 12. Robert Shirley _ 31. Ben Marsh

Thoughts??????

 

[napsyd]

Re: Crows Vs Roos Line-up

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Here are my final selections for the match against Roos

FF: _ 32. Mark Ricciuto _ 22. Ian Perrie _ 5. Ronnie Burns
HF: _ 40. Chris Ladhams _ 2. Wayne Carey _ 9. Tyson Edwards
C: _ 20. Tyson Stenglein _ 26. Mark Bickley _ 36. Simon Goodwin
HB: _ 15. Jason Torney _ 16. Ken McGregor _ 18. Graham Johncôck
FB: _ 7. Nigel Smart _ 8. Nathan Bassett _ 34. Ben Hart
1R: _ 35. Rhett Biglands _ 23. Andrew McLeod _ 10. Matthew Bode

Int: _ 4. Matthew Clarke _ 11. Michael Doughty _ 3. Kris Massie _ 21. James Gallagher

Emg: _ 28. James Begley _ 12. Robert Shirley _ 31. Ben Marsh

Thoughts??????

I think that's pretty much how they will line up Stiffy.

I still think that Schell is a better option than Marsh, but then we are only talking emergencies anyway.

In theory Marsh can back up the ruck and play up forward. In theory Schell can play forward or back. It a tough call.

In practice I'm not sure either of them can actually play football.

And we are really only talking about varying degrees of badness with those two anyway.

 

[Stiffy_18]

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Originally posted by napsyd
In theory Marsh can back up the ruck and play up forward. In theory Schell can play forward or back. It a tough call.

In practice I'm not sure either of them can actually play football.

And we are really only talking about varying degrees of badness with those two anyway.

Couldn't agree with you more. Firstly I selected Hentschel instead of Marsh but then I tought through who has had the most consistent form in SANFL so far and I came up with Marsh. But you are right we are talking about varying degrees of badness

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Re: Crows Vs Roos Line-up

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Here are my final selections for the match against Roos

FF: _ 32. Mark Ricciuto _ 22. Ian Perrie _ 5. Ronnie Burns
HF: _ 40. Chris Ladhams _ 2. Wayne Carey _ 9. Tyson Edwards
C: _ 20. Tyson Stenglein _ 26. Mark Bickley _ 36. Simon Goodwin
HB: _ 15. Jason Torney _ 16. Ken McGregor _ 18. Graham Johncôck
FB: _ 7. Nigel Smart _ 8. Nathan Bassett _ 34. Ben Hart
1R: _ 35. Rhett Biglands _ 23. Andrew McLeod _ 10. Matthew Bode

Int: _ 4. Matthew Clarke _ 11. Michael Doughty _ 3. Kris Massie _ 21. James Gallagher

Emg: _ 28. James Begley _ 12. Robert Shirley _ 31. Ben Marsh

Thoughts??????

The 22 looks good to me Stiffy. Like napsyd I would prefer Hentschel as an emergency or even Parker as has been suggested. Still not sure who we Harvey though.

 

[napsyd]

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Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
The 22 looks good to me Stiffy. Like napsyd I would prefer Hentschel as an emergency or even Parker as has been suggested. Still not sure who we Harvey though.

At the end of the day he is a glorified midfielder and Stinger's in good form. He would have to get first go at least.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

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Originally posted by napsyd
At the end of the day he is a glorified midfielder and Stinger's in good form. He would have to get first go at least.

Stingers main problem is a lack of pace, whish is why he was such a poor matchup for Milne. Not sure he would have the speed to match Harvey.

 

[marvin]

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Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
Stingers main problem is a lack of pace, whish is why he was such a poor matchup for Milne. Not sure he would have the speed to match Harvey.

Milne, though, beat Stinger when they were one-on-one in space in the forward line, through pace and an amazing turning circle. Stinger has been better the last 3 weeks on Williams, Cousins and Stevens - none of which are slugs, although Harvey's probably slightly quicker than all 3. The difference though is that Harvey will be getting the bulk of his touches in a similar fashion to those 3 - roving clearances and running through the middle, and I trust Stinger to do a reasonable job on him in those situations.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

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Originally posted by marvin
Milne, though, beat Stinger when they were one-on-one in space in the forward line, through pace and an amazing turning circle. Stinger has been better the last 3 weeks on Williams, Cousins and Stevens - none of which are slugs, although Harvey's probably slightly quicker than all 3. The difference though is that Harvey will be getting the bulk of his touches in a similar fashion to those 3 - roving clearances and running through the middle, and I trust Stinger to do a reasonable job on him in those situations.

I hope your right marvin. I reckon Stinger is a crucial player for us & in a way he was wasted a little last week as N Stevens played much of the game around CHF. ie. We missed Stinger around the packs.

 

[macca23]

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Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
I hope your right marvin. I reckon Stinger is a crucial player for us & in a way he was wasted a little last week as N Stevens played much of the game around CHF. ie. We missed Stinger around the packs.

I could be wrong but I don't see Stenglein as the match-up for Harvey. Have we been down that path before???

If we did it couldn't have worked because that little rat Harvey always plays well against us.

A bit surprising really, because a lot of other teams do manage to keep him quiet. Perhaps the coaching staff should spend a few hours studying tapes to see just who from other teams has kept him quiet, because I'm buggered if I know who I would put on him

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

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Originally posted by macca23
I could be wrong but I don't see Stenglein as the match-up for Harvey. Have we been down that path before???

If we did it couldn't have worked because that little rat Harvey always plays well against us.

A bit surprising really, because a lot of other teams do manage to keep him quiet. Perhaps the coaching staff should spend a few hours studying tapes to see just who from other teams has kept him quiet, because I'm buggered if I know who I would put on him

I agree Macca as I'm concerned Stinger doesn't have the pace to go with Harvey & would be better suited to Simpson or Grant. However, who do we then play on the little buggar? Edwards or do we go for your out-of-left-field suggestion of Gags, or someone else. Perhaps Macca in a shootout? Also, who do we play on Sinclair who has been in good form. Perhaps Torney? Apart from them, it should be all out attack.

 

[Stiffy_18]

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Originally posted by macca23
I could be wrong but I don't see Stenglein as the match-up for Harvey. Have we been down that path before???

If we did it couldn't have worked because that little rat Harvey always plays well against us.

A bit surprising really, because a lot of other teams do manage to keep him quiet. Perhaps the coaching staff should spend a few hours studying tapes to see just who from other teams has kept him quiet, because I'm buggered if I know who I would put on him

I agree. It just goes to show that we do not have a player that can consistently close down small, quick, sliperry sort of player, whether its in the midfield or down back. Edwards would be my pick. John**** could do the job but after watching closely in last couple of weeks I have come to conclusion that he is not a negating sort of player. He loves to attack and gets found wanting on a few occasions when the play breaks down. Stiffy is more of an attacking defender who will one day turn into a one hell of a midfielder.

We all agree that we lack depth in the rucking department but its becoming very obvious that we are in need of a player that can consistently take on and beat those slippery types in the likes of Harvey, Milne and Matera.

 

[napsyd]

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Originally posted by macca23
I could be wrong but I don't see Stenglein as the match-up for Harvey. Have we been down that path before???

If we did it couldn't have worked because that little rat Harvey always plays well against us.

A bit surprising really, because a lot of other teams do manage to keep him quiet. Perhaps the coaching staff should spend a few hours studying tapes to see just who from other teams has kept him quiet, because I'm buggered if I know who I would put on him

Another left fielder, would Shirley have the pace? He seemed to play OK in the Wok. Darwin against the Eagles I think?

Unlikely I know, but we are throwing up hypotheticals here.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

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Originally posted by napsyd
Another left fielder, would Shirley have the pace? He seemed to play OK in the Wok. Darwin against the Eagles I think?

Unlikely I know, but we are throwing up hypotheticals here.

IMO Shirley would be a better option than Stinger, so not a bad suugestion.

 

[Jars458]

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Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
IMO Shirley would be a better option than Stinger, so not a bad suugestion.

From watching the Eagles vNorth game last night it appeared to me that Shirley is playing a much more free centreman role this year and certainly did not tag his opponent who was Chad Davis

About halfway through the second quarter Shirley had 17 stats and Davis had 11.

Having said that - he is an option worth considering. Whilst he isn't as quick as Harvey he certainly has the work ethic and you would think would bust a gut if given what could be his last chance.

Also from watching the game - Hentschell was very good and did lots of team things. need another 12 months to develoo but will be a good player in my view

Bock on the other hand looks to lightweight and can't take a mark.

Skipworth also played really well and could be a chance to be promoted at the end of the year

 

[macca23]

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Originally posted by napsyd
Another left fielder, would Shirley have the pace? He seemed to play OK in the Wok. Darwin against the Eagles I think?

Unlikely I know, but we are throwing up hypotheticals here.

Reasonable comment and could be well worth a try. I think we might have to try something different like a Gallagher or a Shirley, because the little bugger Harvey has always carved us up.

 

[Stiffy_18]

IN: Massie
OUT: Stevens

The team has been picked and this is the only change at this stage. I think Mattner will get a crack at Harvey

 

[DaveW]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
IN: Massie
OUT: Stevens

The team has been picked and this is the only change at this stage. I think Mattner will get a crack at Harvey

Any emergencies going over?

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by DaveW
Any emergencies going over?

Not sure. Ch 10 said if McLeod misses Doughty or Begley are likely to come in 22. Neither Sturt or South have a bye this week. Should be interesting.

 

[Stiffy_18]

KANGAROOS v ADELAIDE
Friday, 7:40pm AEST, Telstra Dome

KANGAROOS
B: Colbert, Watt, Baird,
HB: Archer, Brown, Sinclair,
C: Makepeace, Simpson, Stevens,
HF: King, Petrie, Grant,
F: Harding, D. Motlop, Jones,
FOLL: Hale, Rawlings, Harvey,
I/C: Porter, Harris, Bourke, Robbins,
EMG: Teague, S. Motlop, Watson,
IN: Harris, Bourke, Robbins,
OUT: Clayton, Morrell, S. Motlop (Omitted)
NEW: David Bourke (Recruited from Richmond FC)


ADELAIDE
B: Hart, Bassett, John****,
HB: Smart, Perrie, Stenglein,
C: Torney, Ricciuto, Ladhams,
HF: Gallagher, McGregor, Goodwin,
F: Edwards, Carey, Burns,
FOLL: Biglands, McLeod, Bode,
I/C: Bickley, Clarke, Massie, Mattner,
EMG: Begley, Doughty, Nelson,
IN: Massie,
OUT: Stevens (Injured)


For the roos, no Rocca and Morrell. Forward line looks a bit short to me.

 

[DaveW]

I thought Shannon Motlop was playing good footy? I find Morrell another surprising omission. And David Bourke is actually getting a game... are you sure that's the real Kangas side?

 

[roostersgal4eva]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
IN: Massie

ABOUT BLOODY TIME TOO!

sorry to shout but he should of been playing in round 1 or 2!

carved us up when the roosters played norwood

 

[DaveW]

Just reading the Roos board, they are also surprised S.Motlop is missing (although not Morrell). I wouldn't be surprised then if Motlop is a late inclusion.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Originally posted by DaveW
Just reading the Roos board, they are also surprised S.Motlop is missing (although not Morrell). I wouldn't be surprised then if Motlop is a late inclusion.

Not only are they surprised, they are p issed off big time at JYD & the selectors. Must admit I'm not upset about the exclusion of S Motlop & Morrell (I think their leading goal kicker) & inclusion of Bourke. It's 1st of May not April. Robbins is a good inclusion for the Roos, so I gather he will be used in some sort of tagging role.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
Not only are they surprised, they are p issed off big time at JYD & the selectors. Must admit I'm not upset about the exclusion of S Motlop & Morrell (I think their leading goal kicker) & inclusion of Bourke. It's 1st of May not April. Robbins is a good inclusion for the Roos, so I gather he will be used in some sort of tagging role.

I can understand why are they p*ssed off. I wouldn't have dropped S. Motlop and Morrell especially not for Bourke. I still think its a bit of a plot from Roos. I think those 2 will come in as a late call up for a couple that will misteriously pull out with some sort of injuries.

I quite like S. Motlop and seeing that he appears out of favour at Arden St. would we look at him as a potential trade as he is a North Adelaide boy?????? We could do much worse.