Your theory will have make more sense if Queensland like NSW is a rugby league state produced more quicks which they havent. Johnson and Kapsowics (I know spelt wrong). Come to me recent memory while NSW have many more.
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Not sure you can claim Lyon when he spent his teenage years in the ACT system and then got his professional start for SA.
It’s no secret that NSW have been the best at producing talent over the years, however I think the current split of NSW players is papering over the cracks in their system.
It’s actually somewhat concerning for Australian cricket that our historically best state isn’t producing the talent they used to. The most recent debutant was Patterson in 2019. Of those who’ve actually played regular test cricket we have to go back to Hazlewood in 2014. In that time we’ve seen Boland, Carey, Head, Labs and Green all debut, we would usually expect to see at minimum 2-3 NSW players on their level coming through.
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Population. Tho I feel like Queenland and Vic underachieved considering how large their population is and how good their states sides have been over the last decade or so.
WA are underperforming as their states sides been great for a decade or so but also alot of their great talents have been quite injury prone. Especially their fast bowlers who have all looked like Aussie players till their bodies kept on breaking down. Potentially is something they look into investigating
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Alex Keath?
He meant a starter worth a damn.
Reached the second highest form of cricket (behind international duties) for Victoria and has also played in an AFL grand final. Not a bad resume.
The likes of Neser, Bichel, Noffke, Adam Dale, Dirk Tazelaar and Joe Dawes would have played international cricket (at least more than they did) under different circumstances, but none of them are/were top-tier bowlers. Dale in particular was like Trent Copeland - economical, but too slow to threaten top-quality batsmen.
Rackemann chased the Rand, and Geoff Dymock was a late bloomer.
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Given the turn of the thread, it is worth mentioning the great Ray Lindwall.
Invincible of 1948 and St George first-grader in rugby league.
Invincible of 1948 and St George first-grader in rugby league.
Hasn’t it always been the winge that NSW runs Australian cricket ?
Helps if you are New South Welshman .. that kind of thing ?
Probably just sour grapes
Helps if you are New South Welshman .. that kind of thing ?
Probably just sour grapes
Isn't Green getting the gig
Carey just wasn't good enough.
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No. Can't believe this thread was started, given he was returning from his back stress fractures at the time.
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Yes, McGrath, Lillee, Cummins, Warne would be the bowlers.
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Fair question. Unclear in my mind and I prefer to let players complete their career before bestowing on them the honor of being in my all time team. fwiw:
Simpson
Lawry
Bradman
G.Chappell
Miller/Border
Harvey
Gilchrist
Lindwall/O'Reilly
Warne
Lillee
McGrath
Steve Smith surely makes it even his career is still going. Steve Waugh and Ponting >Harvey and Chappell
Somewhat remarkable he didn’t play a test for like 6 years after his amazing debut as an 18 year old. And now feel like he’s been around for ages and is 30. And would be man of the series favourite each series. The passage of time is peculiar, especially at the start of years when you’re like 2004 was 20 years ago?!
Smith is or was on track to be the 2nd best batter after Donald.. missing through suspension and Covid has made that wobble a bit
Hope he gets a half dozen more 100s going forward but looks like he’s just a star not a superstar lately
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But they didn't play 60 - 80 years ago so they'll never be as good.....
Seriously, imagine doing an all time Australian side without Ponting. What a joke.
Each to their own opinion. That team selected is still very, very, very impressive.
Hayden not opening is another omission that i would change in my version of the team.
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Of course it's a good team but not putting in the highest run scorer in Australian history with an average exceeding 50 is ludicrous. If Ponting had scored 6,000 runs at the same average but played in the 60s he'd be in every team. But he played in the modern era so doesn't get a look in.
If you are picking your team based on batting position/ bowling role then the selection may be Ponting vs Bradman. In which case Ponting misses out. Although without studying the team more that theory is hard to prove or disprove. The other question point would be are you including players you have actually seen play or players based on reputation/ stats.
