Traded Dan Houston - Joins Collingwood as part of 3-way trade with Port and GC

[Johnny Bananas]

I wonder why neither GC nor Port preferred to deal with North. Their first pick next year should be a good one.

 

[Tasmanian saint]

Depends if we approach Carlton, but I suspect not in that case. If I had to guess, we are pushing for the saints picks as you suggest.

A top 10-ish pick and f1 would normally be enough. But seem it appears a fairly even draft, 2 might not be as valuable as in previous drafts.

What would the deal be ? Straight swap 2 for 7-8 or would there be sweeteners involved

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

What would the deal be ? Straight swap 2 for 7-8 or would there be sweeteners involved

I personally think that north should be adding a sweetener to that.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Depends if we approach Carlton, but I suspect not in that case. If I had to guess, we are pushing for the saints picks as you suggest

The main reason to deal with us would be that once we trade our f2 we are essentially out of the race. If you dealt with Saints Houston may still be pushing to get to us.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

The main reason to deal with us would be that once we trade our f2 we are essentially out of the race. If you dealt with Saints Houston may still be pushing to get to us.

In that situation, I imagine Carlton would be aware of its strategic importance and wouldn’t sell that f2 if they really wanted Houston.

 

[adammania9]

Are Pies just going after whoever is available? They don't really have a clear strategy do they. Probably to do with a lack of football boss for 12 months.

I'd be slightly worried if I was a Pies supporter. They've blown their chance to draft until after Tassie are finished getting all their picks.

Gold Coast and GWS didn’t ruin any side despite blowing up consecutive drafts. Why would Tassie have any significant influence when they only will occupy one draft?

 

[swuzzlebubble]

In that situation, I imagine Carlton would be aware of its strategic importance and wouldn’t sell that f2 if they really wanted Houston.

I'm sure we'd deal f2 into this year for fair value. The challenge is for you guys to have him happy to come rather than stay at Port. Which happens first?

 

[La Vache]

Can’t see Carlton haggling too hard for Houston. He would be a fantastic acquisition for them and they would see their window as being right now while Cripps is doing what he’s doing. They’ve got their big $$$ locked up in Cripps, Curnow, McKay, De Koning, Weitering and Walsh. That’s their core now for better or worse and you gotta give them the best chance.

Surely it will just be a negotiation over a 2nd or 3rd round coming back with Houston or something like that.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Can’t see Carlton haggling too hard for Houston. He would be a fantastic acquisition for them and they would see their window as being right now while Cripps is doing what he’s doing. They’ve got their big $$$ locked up in Cripps, Curnow, McKay, De Koning, Weitering and Walsh. That’s their core now for better or worse and you gotta give them the best chance.

Surely it will just be a negotiation over a 2nd or 3rd round coming back with Houston or something like that.

I think it all relies on Carltons ability to trade Kennedy, Owies and Young. If we can find suitors for them we probably get enough trade capital to hit the draft and acquire Houston.

If we can't we're clearly prioritizing the draft due to the players in our pick range currently.

 

[Chip Scab1]

What’s a fair deal for pick 2? I suspect North have come out and said this straight after the Saints compensation news because North wants the two top 10 Saints picks.

Carl pick 12, F1 be enough?

Come back to us next year. 12, F1 F1'27 will go close.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

From the sounds of this we're not going hard for Houston at the price that's been set. Either Port crumbles with their asking price or he's out of the mix for us imo.

 

[carlton_99]

Gold Coast and GWS didn’t ruin any side despite blowing up consecutive drafts. Why would Tassie have any significant influence when they only will occupy one draft?

Based on the below it does seem that there may be more than one draft impacted by Tasmania entering the comp:

According to The Age, the Tasmanian club is expected to be handed four to five first-round priority picks for the 2027, 2028 and 2029 drafts, with two of those selections from each draft required to be traded to gain experienced talent.

If the club is unable to trade one of those selections to attain players, that selection will be carried into the following year's draft.

Source: https://www.zerohanger.com/likely-draft-pick-allocation-for-new-tasmanian-afl-club-revealed-136386/

 

[projectv]

From the sounds of this we're not going hard for Houston at the price that's been set. Either Port crumbles with their asking price or he's out of the mix for us imo.

Smart by Carlton.

Port will cave on Houston.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Smart by Carlton.

Port will cave on Houston.

We'd need to be very very aggressive on GCS pick 13 to avoid any chance of the Pies swooping on him ahead of us. We get that pick and we really hold the power in terms of Victorian suitors.

I think Port have some other unknown targets in mind they need picks for which is why they haven't shut down talks straight away. Can't see any other reason they'd let him walk away from his contract.

 

[Revan11]

I think perhaps try to trade 12,2025r3 to gws for 15,16.
Then trade 15,2025r2,owies for Houston,2025r3.
So Carlton overall lose 12,owies,2025r2 for Houston,16.
Port probably want more though.

You can’t be serious

 

[swuzzlebubble]

You can’t be serious

I'd do it for the death ride of F3 v GWS

 

[Slax]

Gold Coast and GWS didn’t ruin any side despite blowing up consecutive drafts. Why would Tassie have any significant influence when they only will occupy one draft?

For clubs entering into rebuilding phase it definitely impact time it took to rebuild.

Tassie are getting picks across multiple drafts not just one, so for clubs entering rebuild it will be much harder and will take longer. For Collingwood who are still in denial they need to rebuild good luck, because you're stuffed.

History shows topping up doesn't work when you have next to no youth.

 

[pressurepoint]

Carlton: Pick 13, 34, F1, Kennedy
North: Pick 2 and 43

Port: Pick 13 and Norths F1
North: Houston and Port F2

Wash up:

North: Houston, 34, Carlton F1, Port F2, Kennedy
Port: 13 and North F1
Carlton: 2 and 43

 

[Skull Face]

Carlton: Pick 13, 34, F1, Kennedy
North: Pick 2 and 43

Port: Pick 13 and Norths F1
North: Houston and Port F2

Wash up:

North: Houston, 34, Carlton F1, Port F2, Kennedy
Port: 13 and North F1
Carlton: 2 and 43

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

Port are literally asking for 2 F1’s. It’s up to them if they cave.


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If 13 and owies was described as Carlton arrogance and delusional, I doubt we will cave

 

[adammania9]

For clubs entering into rebuilding phase it definitely impact time it took to rebuild.

Tassie are getting picks across multiple drafts not just one, so for clubs entering rebuild it will be much harder and will take longer. For Collingwood who are still in denial they need to rebuild good luck, because you're stuffed.

History shows topping up doesn't work when you have next to no youth.

It didn't delay any side's rebuild. It was those team's poor talent ID and/or development that delayed a rebuild.

We'll let the footy do the talking. With Houston, Collingwood have a very clear team that can contend for a premiership in 2025.

 

[Lingsface]

St Kilda in the hunt? They have the picks now, should try and land this big fish, I think Houston would choose Saints over North as well.

Pick 8 for Houston then Port use the Pick to trade for Lukosis and 23?

 

[TakingThePies]

Smart by Carlton.

Port will cave on Houston.

Cave? he's contracted.. They'll happily get one more year out of him and do this again next year.

 

[TakingThePies]

For clubs entering into rebuilding phase it definitely impact time it took to rebuild.

Tassie are getting picks across multiple drafts not just one, so for clubs entering rebuild it will be much harder and will take longer. For Collingwood who are still in denial they need to rebuild good luck, because you're stuffed.

History shows topping up doesn't work when you have next to no youth.

You can top up with youth from other clubs though...

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

With GC wanting Noble I feel that gives us an edge to get pick 13.

 

[Chip Scab1]

With GC wanting Noble I feel that gives us an edge to get pick 13.

You hold on to that dream, imagine getting pick 13 for a reserve player you deemed 24th man in last years GF.

Nick Daicos would be the only player on your list these days worth more. Even Josh Daicos wouldn't attract bids of 13. It's delusional at best, to think Johnny Nobel would attract a bid that high.