Lets not be having a debate about PD''s football ability.
I was being complimentary, he's not the primary beneficiary of Sauce's ruck work.
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Lets not be having a debate about PD''s football ability.
Unfortunate timing. Wasnt directed at anyone in particular.I was being complimentary, he's not the primary beneficiary of Sauce's ruck work.
Dangerfield's clearance numbers will be interesting though.Thommo is Jacobs primary target.
"The compo pick, Pick 14, feels about right for Patty"
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We need to get Hell Kitty over here.I love some of the posts by Geelong posters, it is why I am happy to have open threads like this. Sometimes you need a good laugh.
I can't help but feel I will be disapointed by the Danger trade.
To me the elephant in the room regarding danger's value are the other 'first round' trades that will happen.
I mean FFS, Cam McCarthy and Treloar look like they will each net 2x first round picks.
If we get anything less than that it will show our recruiting team to be incredibly soft. Danger IS worth more than these two. Danger WON'T get to Geelong in the draft. If we get anything less than what GWS will get for these picks it will be a fail.
I'm sick of our recruiting staff 'helping' our players get to their destination of choice like that's their job.
More talking about how he has fit into our team compared with Geelong.Lets not be having a debate about PD''s football ability.
Dangerfield's clearance numbers will be interesting though.
Yes, one Bernie Vince comes to mind. He did well against him.
Oh god no. I tried to calm that down on PM and got shot entering the conversationWe need to get Hell Kitty over here.
Cam McCarthy comparison isn't really valid as he's still contracted for next year. Neither he nor the Dockers have any leverage whatsoever against GWS in those negotiations, so they have to pay overs, and BIG overs. So yeah, this year they're offering 2 1st round picks. If GWS don't take it then next year the price when he's out of contract will be 1 pick.
gws should show compassion. Just ask the Geelong board.Cam McCarthy comparison isn't really valid as he's still contracted for next year. Neither he nor the Dockers have any leverage whatsoever against GWS in those negotiations, so they have to pay overs, and BIG overs. So yeah, this year they're offering 2 1st round picks. If GWS don't take it then next year the price when he's out of contract will be 1 pick.
I'd feel a bit cheated to be honest but it would depend entirely on where we play him and how we use him. Could be a Westhoff type player with the emphasis on could.Stiffy ...would you be happy with Stanley?
if you dont value your sanity.We need to get Hell Kitty over here.
Yea she got upset at me too haha....I mentioned about the compassion the cats fans are asking for.......and she asked me to show her 1 post where a cats fan has stated, we should show compassion to PD. Fair to say I couldn't be f****dOh god no. I tried to calm that down on PM and got shot entering the conversation
She did send me a photo before she blocked me though ...
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Was BOG clearly in his last gameWesthoff without the footy smarts. Oh wait, that's Rhys Stanley.
Does anybody have an idea how many players we need to cut if we lose Danger for two picks and an additional player?
I guess he was referring to other list changes we've made as wellum... 3?
The ONLY possible way we should take 9 & 28 is if we know for fact they'll get him in the PSD. Since that's unlikely then we must go for broke, if we don't we've done a bad job. Not a horrific fail like some of you proclaim but its not a great result.if we give up Danger for picks 9 & 28, then the current admin is no better than under twiggy. I will be disgusted
why? because in a FA environment, you have 2 levers. it is a tight economy between cap and assets, a little more of one a little less of the other. like a set of old fashioned scales
we are all surprised that Geelong have tried to low ball Paddy, when they could get him for nothing by upping the offer to a market value. it makes no sense. except... when you step back and look at what they are doing overall.
they can use cap space or they can give up assets, and they have chosen to give up assets because their cap space is more limited. if they use cap space to sign danger, and keep assets it doesn't matter because there is no way they can add Henderson, Selwood and Zmith as well. can't be done.
so cap space is worth more to them than assets, because that is the tightest pinch point. it is finite in the extreme
which means that he can't go in the draft, because they won't have the cap space to price him out. the pie is spread very thing to add all these blokes.
so they need to give up assets, to get him for a certain price so they can fit in the other blokes and begin Geelong 2.0
they have no ******* leverage because they can only get for cheap in a trade. any other way and they miss out. so if they have chosen the assets rather than cap route, we better make them ******* squeak.
they have no alternatives, and I don't want to hear the words off-limits. if players are off limits, then they need to give him some money and go down that route. oh wait you can't!
9 & 28 is a capitulation given we know what they are up to, and how many balls they have in the air. and don't be adding b/c grade talent to sweeten the pot.
if they can't get PD I wonder how many of the others will be drinking the Kool-aid still, and it might all come crashing down.
we need to be bringing home a very big asset haul, because we have them by the balls if we know what we are doing. I wonder if we do?
Do they need to price him out in the draft though?if we give up Danger for picks 9 & 28, then the current admin is no better than under twiggy. I will be disgusted
why? because in a FA environment, you have 2 levers. it is a tight economy between cap and assets, a little more of one a little less of the other. like a set of old fashioned scales
we are all surprised that Geelong have tried to low ball Paddy, when they could get him for nothing by upping the offer to a market value. it makes no sense. except... when you step back and look at what they are doing overall.
they can use cap space or they can give up assets, and they have chosen to give up assets because their cap space is more limited. if they use cap space to sign danger, and keep assets it doesn't matter because there is no way they can add Henderson, Selwood and Zmith as well. can't be done.
so cap space is worth more to them than assets, because that is the tightest pinch point. it is finite in the extreme
which means that he can't go in the draft, because they won't have the cap space to price him out. the pie is spread very thing to add all these blokes.
so they need to give up assets, to get him for a certain price so they can fit in the other blokes and begin Geelong 2.0
they have no ******* leverage because they can only get for cheap in a trade. any other way and they miss out. so if they have chosen the assets rather than cap route, we better make them ******* squeak.
they have no alternatives, and I don't want to hear the words off-limits. if players are off limits, then they need to give him some money and go down that route. oh wait you can't!
9 & 28 is a capitulation given we know what they are up to, and how many balls they have in the air. and don't be adding b/c grade talent to sweeten the pot.
if they can't get PD I wonder how many of the others will be drinking the Kool-aid still, and it might all come crashing down.
we need to be bringing home a very big asset haul, because we have them by the balls if we know what we are doing. I wonder if we do?