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[douglyzia]

It has been widely reported that Patrick will not want to weaken the club which he will join.

Well that's true. If he joins Carlton or Brisbane via the PSD those clubs will get stronger not weaker.

 

[big78sam]

If a deal can't be done and patty signed on for 2 more years I honestly don't know whether I'd be happy. We will likely lose him for nothing with the possibility that even comp picks are gone then.


Patty for 2 years or 2 first rounders plus a fringe player. I'm leaning towards the latter...

 

[Paladin]

Can we ban crows supporters from this thread?

It would be a lot more interesting & respectful with only opposition supporters

That's funny Sanders considering you spent six months telling us how there was no chance the crows would match. Not to mention your little rumour he had signed.

You are reaching Trigg levels of fail with your PD insights

 

[ManInTheArena]

If a deal can't be done and patty signed on for 2 more years I honestly don't know whether I'd be happy. We will likely lose him for nothing with the possibility that even comp picks are gone then.


Patty for 2 years or 2 first rounders plus a fringe player. I'm leaning towards the latter...

I don't want him anymore. He wants to go so he needs to go and its our opportunity to get two or three quality players so we don't have to pick spuds. Team first will win when we have more quality, not one player who thinks he's two.

 

[Crow_Magnon]

So I might do something random and look at the positives from this. If we come out of this with a pair of first rounders, do we draft or trade them for someone? And this would give us some serious spare cash to put some big bids for other guys looking to move yes/no?

I'd bank one of the first rounders, and look at using the second for an up and coming mid from the likes of GWS or GC, or whomever else fits the bill. I think we're in our premiership window right now, so waiting for two draftees to hit their straps may not be the best option.

 

[Brasher]

Do you seriously think geelong won't walk away from a bad deal? In trading and drafting you have to think of it from a list view, not a individual player view. Like I said 8 spots to fill, so in your mind we trade pick 9, a player and next years pick 7-12 approx (first round).
Geelong then have to get walker to Carlton plus a second round pick.
Get selwood in for free.
Put on top of that next year, bartel Mackie, longagan and enright retire. Leaving these picks in the draft for the next to years.

2015
45,63,81,99,117,135,153,171
Picks we HAVE to use to fill up the list.
2016
35,53,71,89 (approx)

Look at those picks!!!! Do you seriously think that geelong are going to fill up MINIMUM 12 spots on there list out of 40 with these picks?? Geelong have a responsibility to get those 12 picks in the next 2 years as low as possible as list transition is vital for us at this stage. Hence geelongs chasing of free agents and trying to get danger for nothing, get selwood in cross out pick 170. The plan was get danger in cross out pick 150. The danger plan failed, you guys (fagan and roo) have said NO way, give us picks, but as you can clearly see from above geelong seriously cannot contemplate have 12 picks in the next few years drafts like that just to get danger. It's madness and suicide.

Not. going. to. happen.

If you were geelong would you do it? Let your list end up like that? Seriously? Just for Danger?

I'm not arguing dangers market value, nor adelaides right to match the offer. Just that geelong will offer what they can, clearly under market value, and if not they'll walk away. The damage to the club if they don't is clear to see. The list is far more important than the individual.

Danger is better than selwood btw, this year clearly went passed him.

I once went on a holiday when I was young that was so out of my budget I couldn't afford to go to the pub for a month afterwards.

Geelong's household budget is not the Adelaide Football Club's concern, you want to put a Ferrari in the garage well then you may have to go with the rest of the house being unfinished for the time being.

 

[douglyzia]

For the life of me I cannkt understand how crows supporters would be ok with losing patty for nothing if he goes into a draft. Because that's what will happen. Give up arguably the best player in the comp for a big fat 0.

We will think of it as a donation to rabble Carlton for Betts and for taking Trigg off our hands.

 

[douglyzia]

And you'll end up with nothing for him? Do you really think AFC would rather let that happen than make a deal with Geelong, even if it slightly upsets some of their fans?

We'll get over it. It will upset Dangerfield and Geelong fans more.

 

[Troy Nation]

Trigg will be regarded as a saviour.

Patrick would be ecstatic to be back under Trigg! haha

 

[Troy Nation]

That's funny Sanders considering you spent six months telling us how there was no chance the crows would match. Not to mention your little rumour he had signed.

You are reaching Trigg levels of fail with your PD insights

Dem's fighting words!

 

[Croweater23]

If a deal can't be done and patty signed on for 2 more years I honestly don't know whether I'd be happy. We will likely lose him for nothing with the possibility that even comp picks are gone then.


Patty for 2 years or 2 first rounders plus a fringe player. I'm leaning towards the latter...

Won't happen so you won't have to make that decision.

 

[douglyzia]

Was obviously meant as an extremely unlikely possibility, but I was just making the point that he ultimately does have a lot more control over his destiny than a lot on here and in the media think he does.

You just contradicted yourself. Someone who has been more or less forced to sit out a year is not in control of his destiny.

 

[Troy Nation]

And you'll end up with nothing for him? Do you really think AFC would rather let that happen than make a deal with Geelong, even if it slightly upsets some of their fans?

With other clubs not hiding the fact they will take Patrick in a heart beat if he goes into the national or ps draft it will be Geelong who ends up with nothing because they refused to trade. In the end if Geelong refuse to come to the table and roll the dice, we may have words with Patricks manager and suggest Carlton or Melbourne are offering this can you work a contract, he can get to one of these clubs, he might just say yes!

 

[jenny61_99]

And you'll end up with nothing for him? Do you really think AFC would rather let that happen than make a deal with Geelong, even if it slightly upsets some of their fans?

Yes.

 

[little graham]

He can refuse to play anywhere he doesn't want to, ultimately he could do anything he wanted even retire for a year rather than play anywhere if he wasn't happy with where he was going...Make no mistake he holds all the cards.

Retiring for a year, at his peak, when the games evolving/changing so quickly, is the stupidest thing i've seen all year from Geelong trolls.

 

[Elite Crow]

The only reason Danger said Victiora and not Geelong because he hasn't thought about who club he wanted to go to

In all seriousness I think he said Geelong his previous denials would sound even more hollow. This way he can say he's leaving but not to Geelong

 

[oldcrowgirl]

It will end up being 2015 and 2016 1st rounders. Murdoch might be the steak knives.

Please can we have a carving knife instead of steak knives? Mark Blicavs would be a great carving knife

 

[Truck25]

With other clubs not hiding the fact they will take Patrick in a heart beat if he goes into the national or ps draft it will be Geelong who ends up with nothing because they refused to trade. In the end if Geelong refuse to come to the table and roll the dice, we may have words with Patricks manager and suggest Carlton or Melbourne are offering this can you work a contract, he can get to one of these clubs, he might just say yes!

I recon you'd get more joy from Collingwood, Carlton wouldn't do a deal as they just need to wait for PSD and get him for free. Pies on the other hand are no chance at PSD.

 

[Troy Nation]

Retiring for a year, at his peak, when the games evolving/changing so quickly, is the stupidest thing i've seen all year from Geelong trolls.

It won't happen. Ultimately the money is too good and the damage to their reputation would be immense. The last player to actually consider it was Clive Waterhouse when he wanted to be traded home to Port and I think it was due to a serious family illness. He still ended up staying at Fremantle. With 9 Melbourne clubs I am sure his manager can work a nice trade to one of them if Geelong choose to be unreasonable.

 

[Truck25]

If a deal can't be done and patty signed on for 2 more years I honestly don't know whether I'd be happy. We will likely lose him for nothing with the possibility that even comp picks are gone then.


Patty for 2 years or 2 first rounders plus a fringe player. I'm leaning towards the latter...

If there is no deal doesn't the matched deal stand - 6 years at 800k

 

[Mahlepi]

Really appreciate that. Play on.

This thread was going well last nite
Great read

 

[Pugsley]

You are getting shafted. Two first round picks for a top five player in the comp is unders. You'll never hear me say anything to contrary. There's just one problem is though, I don't care whether you're getting shafted or not. I don't support Adelaide, I support Geelong. And if I think that Geelong has a chance to get a top five player in the comp WITHOUT giving anything up to get him, then that will be my persuasion.

As the situation stands, I think there's a very real possibility that Geelong can get Danger FOR NOTHING, and you guys get nothing in the process if you stand in the way of us and Dangerfield's wishes to return home. I'd prefer if the AFL gave you two first round compo picks to save the argy-bargy, but in the end I think you guys will not cut your noses off to spite face, and accept the comp pick (as unfair as it is) as you don't have the upper hand.

 

[Troy Nation]

I recon you'd get more joy from Collingwood, Carlton wouldn't do a deal as they just need to wait for PSD and get him for free. Pies on the other hand are no chance at PSD.

That's on Geelong not us. It comes down to how much does Geelong want their so called favourite son home.

 

[Tex Support]

The only reason Danger said Victiora and not Geelong because he hasn't thought about who club he wanted to go to

In all seriousness I think he said Geelong his previous denials would sound even more hollow. This way he can say he's leaving but not to Geelong

#stitchedup

 

[Eudes]

What ever the outcome, I just hope it's sorted early so both teams can then focus on other deals.

The longer it goes on, the more it disadvantages each club and their courting of any other players.