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[Bovo]

When this all happened with Tippett, there were a billion pages of opinions, trade speculation and hearsay - all of which was way off. Too many people are wasting too much time on this stuff. Its like we are all hampsters running in the hampster wheel of the danger move. Trying, typing, thinking, speculating and in the end the wheel just keeps on turning back to its original position and spins again, and we get no where.

So this will be my last post in this thread until something is announced, because I dont want to waste my time

What have you suggested as a fair trade? I understand the going around in circles bit....!

 

[1970crow]

I love Singapore. We always stay on Orchard Road. We got a platinum club room which has free two hour happy hour (all the beer and spirits you can drink from 5-7pm) I can assure you I didn't regret staying in that hotel.

Yeh, I really liked the place as well. I keep telling the missus that she should go there when they next do a chicks getaway. She no listen to me though. I can't recall where I stayed, but they had this magnificent onion soup with some kind of lencrusted cheese as a crouton. I was only there a few nights, but I had this just about every day. Roll in drunk at midnight, room service, another bowl of soup please.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Depth is important but as one of the top 10 paid players you'd want him being much more than that.

Maybe just trying to freak out an already frazzled Geelong. I've got no problem with that.

Maybe they deem him of value for a trade. They may simply be testing the waters for the compo pick

 

[Captain Furious]

Maybe they deem him of value for a trade. They may simply be testing the waters for the compo pick

Could be. Doubt Geelong would call the bluff on a trade. Got their hands full with Danger, Henderson, maybe Smith. Only strength is their midfield, can't see them trading for Selwood. Can't see them having any picks left to trade either. WC matching could leave them with a very overpaid lesser Selwood on their hands.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Could be. Doubt Geelong would call the bluff on a trade. Got their hands full with Danger, Henderson, maybe Smith. Only strength is their midfield, can't see them trading for Selwood. Can't see them having any picks left to trade either. WC matching could leave them with a very overpaid lesser Selwood on their hands.

They will be spending all their trade currency on Dangerfield and Henderson. Selwood will have to go to PSD. I think WCE are trying to get the AFL to allocate a decent compo pick for him. Smith deal will not get done. It is only in play if Adelaide doesn't match the contract and they have said they will and hence why Geelong and Adelaide are in deep negotiations. Noble would have rang Hocking back in August and said they will match. If Geelong can't get a deal done with this much notice and Danger ends up being wooed by Collingwood or Melbourne etc they would be a joke of a club.

 

[Deaneus!]

So this will be my last post in this thread until something is announced, because I dont want to waste my time

I find the best thing to do is read a few posts here and there for the lulz, ten post a pic of gif that's amusing. For instance:

 

[Captain Furious]

They will be spending all their trade currency on Dangerfield and Henderson. Selwood will have to go to PSD. I think WCE are trying to get the AFL to allocate a decent compo pick for him. Smith deal will not get done. It is only in play if Adelaide doesn't match the contract and they have said they will and hence why Geelong and Adelaide are in deep negotiations. Noble would have rang Hocking back in August and said they will match. If Geelong can't get a deal done with this much notice and Danger ends up being wooed by Collingwood or Melbourne etc they would be a joke of a club.

Ok, that makes sense. But does he go into the PSD with the matched amount on his head? Or can he change terms beforehand?

 

[Mego Red]

Well, it's the best I can do and I dare say it's the best Steve Hocking will do, too.

The next three weeks are shaping up to be one of the most fascinating trade periods in history.

I will leave you good folk to it - seeing as I've probably over stayed my welcome, plus I don't feel as though I have anything else to contribute in here.

You contributed the best trade suggestion made by a Geelong supporter so far, so you're certainly welcome.

 

[Deaneus!]

Actually, here's a question for the Crows posters: for argument's sake, after days of protracted negotiations we end up with amongst other things, a first round pick and a second round pick, but from different years.

Would you rather

pick 9, 2015 and second round pick, 2016

OR

pick 28, 2015 and first round pick, 2016

My thinking is if the draft is thin, why not get the first rounder for next year, and if necessary employ it is the points system thing for the F/S pick of Ben Jarman; if other rumours are true we'll have someone like Redden / Hampton / Seedsman filling in the talent gap for this year.

Obviously Geelong's finishing position next year helps... we'll be brracking for Geelong to bottom out of course!

 

[Captain Furious]

They will be spending all their trade currency on Dangerfield and Henderson. Selwood will have to go to PSD. I think WCE are trying to get the AFL to allocate a decent compo pick for him. Smith deal will not get done. It is only in play if Adelaide doesn't match the contract and they have said they will and hence why Geelong and Adelaide are in deep negotiations. Noble would have rang Hocking back in August and said they will match. If Geelong can't get a deal done with this much notice and Danger ends up being wooed by Collingwood or Melbourne etc they would be a joke of a club.

Ok, that makes sense. But does he go into the PSD with the matched amount on his head? Or can he change terms beforehand?

Oh, I get it. The matched amount is what Geelong initially said they would pay. All good.

Forgive me. It's been a big morning (GF day).

 

[adelaidecrows]

Ok, that makes sense. But does he go into the PSD with the matched amount on his head? Or can he change terms beforehand?

no he can change terms all he likes. It could be a 1 year contract at $800k. However if he goes through to PSD I am sceptical whether Geelong will wait for him due to uncertainty.

 

[Glenno23]

Obviously Geelong's finishing position next year helps... we'll be brracking for Geelong to bottom out of course!

I'll be barracking that anyway, so lets do that!

 

[baldandbroke]

Actually, here's a question for the Crows posters: for argument's sake, after days of protracted negotiations we end up with amongst other things, a first round pick and a second round pick, but from different years.

Would you rather

pick 9, 2015 and second round pick, 2016

OR

pick 28, 2015 and first round pick, 2016

My thinking is if the draft is thin, why not get the first rounder for next year, and if necessary employ it is the points system thing for the F/S pick of Ben Jarman; if other rumours are true we'll have someone like Redden / Hampton / Seedsman filling in the talent gap for this year.

Obviously Geelong's finishing position next year helps... we'll be brracking for Geelong to bottom out of course!

Some talk about the deal being done? McClure apparently said something like:

"Geelong have traded pick 9 plus either a 2nd round pick in next year's draft or a swap of next year's first round draft picks."

The question being asked is why would AFC swap next year's first rounder with Geelong? Who sees that as a win - Geelong or AFC? I guess both teams have to back that and say that the other is going to finish lower

I fully expect us to trade this year's first rounder - pick 13 - for a player if we get pick 9 from Geelong.

 

[Captain Furious]

Actually, here's a question for the Crows posters: for argument's sake, after days of protracted negotiations we end up with amongst other things, a first round pick and a second round pick, but from different years.

Would you rather

pick 9, 2015 and second round pick, 2016

OR

pick 28, 2015 and first round pick, 2016

My thinking is if the draft is thin, why not get the first rounder for next year, and if necessary employ it is the points system thing for the F/S pick of Ben Jarman; if other rumours are true we'll have someone like Redden / Hampton / Seedsman filling in the talent gap for this year.

Obviously Geelong's finishing position next year helps... we'll be brracking for Geelong to bottom out of course!

It's an interesting question: Where will Geelong finish next year? One of the hardest to pick really.

Their forward line is totally reliant on Hawkins, who's mid range for mine. Back line looks in trouble, Longeran seems shot, Mackie on his last legs, Taylor had an ordinary year and has Enright gone one year too many? (Probably not, legend of a player). But their midfield of Selwood, Danger, Motlop and Duncan is one of the best in the comp in talent and balance and with good depth (Caddy, Guthrie etc.)

Could be anywhere from 4th to 12th I'd reckon. Makes a big difference to that 2016 pick.

 

[Stripple]

I like it, and essentially we're not exactly forgoing pick 9 to get Redden - we're forgoing Dangerfield (who was leaving anyway) and our late second round pick 33 to give us two picks inside the first round (20 is end of first round after the AFL hand out the Leuenberger compo - unless he meant their 2nd rounder which is likely to be 22 after compo, in either case it's basically still within firing range of a good solid prospect and very close to 1st round), plus getting Redden (easily worth pick 12-15 in this draft) and Aish (worth somewhere in that vicinity if not more) for picks we never had in the first place.

Conversely, we take Brisbane out of the equation and we end up with something like pick 9, pick 28 and Geelong's 2016 2nd rounder for Danger, which would you prefer in that scenario?

Look as I said it's not too bad. I guess the question is what would it take to get Redden and Aish from Brisbane on our own? I would think Pick 13, our second next year and maybe a Wright or something would get it over the line. And when you compare that to Pick 9/2016 pick one I think we are better off not using those. But who knows what Brisbane would expect for Redden & Aish.

 

[Smithtastic33]

If we don't end up with 2 first round picks (in any variation) for Dangerfield, will be typical crows trading again.

Very disappointing if true.

 

[Bonkers000]

Actually, here's a question for the Crows posters: for argument's sake, after days of protracted negotiations we end up with amongst other things, a first round pick and a second round pick, but from different years.

Would you rather

pick 9, 2015 and second round pick, 2016

OR

pick 28, 2015 and first round pick, 2016

My thinking is if the draft is thin, why not get the first rounder for next year, and if necessary employ it is the points system thing for the F/S pick of Ben Jarman; if other rumours are true we'll have someone like Redden / Hampton / Seedsman filling in the talent gap for this year.

Obviously Geelong's finishing position next year helps... we'll be brracking for Geelong to bottom out of course!

This years draft is not weak, it's just not deep. A first rounder this year will be equal with a first rounder next year. However, a second rounder this year will be weaker than one next year.
Take this years first and next years second. It's very possible Geelong will finish top 8 next year as well.

 

[1990crow]

McClure Hasn't been very right in everything I've heard him report recently, so take with a grain of salt

 

[Mike Smyth]

Still find it hard to believe he actually chose to leave after every thing the club has been through this year. Just when you thought AFL footballers couldn't sink any lower. Thank god for Nat Fyfe - ten times the man Dangerfield will ever be.

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

Some talk about the deal being done? McClure apparently said something like:

"Geelong have traded pick 9 plus either a 2nd round pick in next year's draft or a swap of next year's first round draft picks."

The question being asked is why would AFC swap next year's first rounder with Geelong? Who sees that as a win - Geelong or AFC? I guess both teams have to back that and say that the other is going to finish lower

I fully expect us to trade this year's first rounder - pick 13 - for a player if we get pick 9 from Geelong.

that is the stupidest thing I think I've heard on this whole topic!

Here, I'll trade you what's in this bag for what's in that box. Who wins?

 

[Mego Red]

Still find it hard to believe he actually chose to leave after every thing the club has been through this year. Just when you thought AFL footballers couldn't sink any lower. Thank god for Nat Fyfe - ten times the man Dangerfield will ever be.

He's had a difficult year, realizes life is short and wants to prioritize family. Doesn't bother me.

 

[kirky]

He's had a difficult year, realizes life is short and wants to prioritize family. Doesn't bother me.

Having been thru the biggest health scare earlier this year I appreciate the issue around family but I wish he had said something earlier in the year (this assumes decision was made a lot earlier than he is saying which I think it was - gut feel).

 

[Mike Smyth]

He's had a difficult year, realizes life is short and wants to prioritize family. Doesn't bother me.

It should if you want to see us win another flag at some stage.

 

[Mike Smyth]

Having been thru the biggest health scare earlier this year I appreciate the issue around family but I wish he had said something earlier in the year (this assumes decision was made a lot earlier than he is saying which I think it was - gut feel).

I reckon the decision had been made at the time he signed his previous contract. I also believe even if we didn't have the Trigg/Reid Tippett debacle, he would have still walked.

 

[SpeciousArgument]

I reckon the decision had been made at the time he signed his previous contract. I also believe even if we didn't have the Trigg/Reid Tippett debacle, he would have still walked.

Well wed probably still have trigg and maybe sanderson. Probably a win overall.