Vic Daniel Andrews and the Statue of Limitations

[adogsfan5]

We all pay taxes. People need to stop whinging about so called inequities in the economy perpetuated by labor and do their best to live within their means.

It’s not labor’s fault we have historically unjust house pricing, minimal wage growth holistically, and reform that constantly supports anyone that feels ripped off because they run a small business and a hard done by because they have to pay above minimum wage.

Not sure how this is relevant to the conversation I was having with Hurley. But thanks for the information.

 

[demondavey]

Not sure how this is relevant to the conversation I was having with Hurley. But thanks for the information.

You mentioned taxes. If you want to have a private conversation with another poster, go ahead. In a public forum anyone can reply.

 

[adogsfan5]

You mentioned taxes. If you want to have a private conversation with another poster, go ahead. In a public forum anyone can reply.

My post was about the comm games and the inquiry. I called Victorians, Victorian taxpayers. In no way was I intending to have a conversation about taxes, whinge about taxes or inequities. Please stick to the topic if you’re going to reply to me.

 

[boncer34]

Just like how LNP governments have always cooperated with everything….

Anyone else miss the old days of governments being held accountable for their actions as opposed to having their cheerleaders dismiss things with "but but but but the other team."

2 wrongs, 1 right, etc.

 

[demondavey]

My post was about the comm games and the inquiry. I called Victorians, Victorian taxpayers. In no way was I intending to have a conversation about taxes, whinge about taxes or inequities. Please stick to the topic if you’re going to reply to me.

Sook

 

[demondavey]

Anyone else miss the old days of governments being held accountable for their actions as opposed to having their cheerleaders dismiss things with "but but but but the other team."

2 wrongs, 1 right, etc.

Labor and DA aren’t squeaky clean, but it’s pot kettle stuff if you start banging on with ‘but the other team’. Let’s face it, they’re all rusty under the roof, they just have differing persuasions and issues they lean towards.

 

[adogsfan5]

Sook

Not really. Just saying, don’t go off on a tangent or you’ll just create issues that aren’t needed. Nobody whinged about taxes.

 

[Crankyhawk]

“The land council has to be consulted on everything and you’ve got to pay for that consultation,” said Cr Meyer. “We don’t know [how much it will cost]. They might say it’s 20 bucks an hour, they might say it’s 1000 bucks an hour. We don’t know.”

If true, do the councillors, assistants, advisers all work for free?

I thought the point is there’s no set rate or expected length of work required (ie lack of transparency). I think local councillor salaries are on public record (shady business dealings aren’t though)

 

[boncer34]

Labor and DA aren’t squeaky clean, but it’s pot kettle stuff if you start banging on with ‘but the other team’. Let’s face it, they’re all rusty under the roof, they just have differing persuasions and issues they lean towards.

How so? I don't recall pointing to the other side when discussing any government.

I've voted Labor in the last few elections because I believe they are better than the Libs. If I start giving them passes on anything because "the Libs did it too" then why the **** did I vote them in?

 

[Kanga Commando]

How so? I don't recall pointing to the other side when discussing any government.

I've voted Labor in the last few elections because I believe they are better than the Libs. If I start giving them passes on anything because "the Libs did it too" then why the * did I vote them in?

True.
They are both stuffed, and if you hold one to a standard, you must hold the others.

Lots of people give their guys a free kick on bad behaviour and failure, purely on the confirmation bias of their last vote.

 

[Chief]

I thought the point is there’s no set rate or expected length of work required (ie lack of transparency). I think local councillor salaries are on public record (shady business dealings aren’t though)

Maybe they can get PWC to consult

Sounds like a valid concern. But also sounds like something that can be solved.

 

[Magnum27]

True.
They are both stuffed, and if you hold one to a standard, you must hold the others.

Lots of people give their guys a free kick on bad behaviour and failure, purely on the confirmation bias of their last vote.

Luckily for me i was o/s last election and did not have to vote for any of the scumbags, and continue to dislike them all equally, as i do.

 

[Kanga Commando]

Luckily for me i was o/s last election and did not have to vote for any of the scumbags, and continue to dislike them all equally, as i do.

yeah - i feel pretty empty looking at the voting forms these days

 

[eddiesmith]

Anyone else miss the old days of governments being held accountable for their actions as opposed to having their cheerleaders dismiss things with "but but but but the other team."

2 wrongs, 1 right, etc.

Especially when one party has been in power for 20 of the last 24 years and yet they still want to blame the government last century for everything…

 

[FIGJAM]

The inquiry will amount to nothing.

Agreed!

It's not hard to lose the envelope that the feasibility study was done on.

 

[Sttew]

Agreed!

It's not hard to lose the envelope that the feasibility study was done on.

But, but but, "we have to wait for the inquiry findings to be delivered before jumping on the hype train". You know, just like with the much anticipated HQ Inquiry in 2021. How many times did Dan tell us there was no point speculating beforehand as all would be revealed in the Inquiry.

As Dan and the Minister for the Fyre Festival are unlikely to give evidence at the Upper House Inquiry into the Comm Games it's fair to say this will be a lame duck too.

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

What would you like Victorian taxpayers who aren’t really a fan of him to say?

Not simply make up stories to get mad at. Which has been a constant feature of these threads, seeing as the conspiracies have never materialised, nor the impending disasters of crime waves, economic collapse, massive corruption, Chinese takeover of Victoria, electoral annihilation or stupid stuff like stair gate and his wife's car accident.

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

Agreed!

It's not hard to lose the envelope that the feasibility study was done on.

And here come the conspiracy theories. Again.

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

Absolute landslide?

They got 36.66% of the vote, a drop of 6.2%, against an opposition so insipid you have to assume they were tanking.

That's an incredibly selective reading of an increased majority.

It's just delusion all the way down. Which is why his opponents and detractors who are absurdly out of touch with the Victorian electorate keep being wrong.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

What would you like Victorian taxpayers who aren’t really a fan of him to say?

Sorry.

Tell him you are sorry for all the lies you help promote and enable.

 

[MarcMaverick]

And here come the conspiracy theories. Again.

Give it a while.

 

[Sttew]

And here come the conspiracy theories. Again.

Where on earth is the conspiracy theory in that post? You don’t have a sense of humour? The point of the post as I read it is that the feasibility study may as well have been done on an envelope given how wrong the government got the costs etc.

 

[FredLeDeux]

Where on earth is the conspiracy theory in that post? You don’t have a sense of humour? The point of the post as I read it is that the feasibility study may as well have been done on an envelope given how wrong the government got the costs etc.

Is the CGA going to turn up to this stunt enquiry and explain their fu*k-up?

 

[My_Username]

That's an incredibly selective reading of an increased majority.

It's just delusion all the way down. Which is why his opponents and detractors who are absurdly out of touch with the Victorian electorate keep being wrong.

Having a large swing against (1st pref and to a lesser degree 2PP), and having fewer MPs in parliament ( 73 down to 71 ) is not a 'landslide win', nor is it an increased majority.

 

[Kanga Commando]

name the blunders that cost us $1bn with nothing to show for it

When they entered office they killed a LNP eastern fwy extension and lost over $1B based on pure spite. ( i will concede the contract should not have been signed )

But, I’m still not sure that ”nothing to show for it” reflects good governance.

Myki for instance was planned at around $740M initially, but blew out to $1.3B

Health database went from around $300M to over $500M

I heard one figure of $28B in screwed up project losses - but I don’t have a source for that. If i find it i will post it.