Vic Daniel Andrews and the Statue of Limitations

[MPMonkeys]

perhaps you should first look up what corroboration means.

a proper journo would not have used the one source to write such a story. he/she would have contacted the club involved to see whether in fact the club had received a membership application. but, as I said, a negative response would have sunk the story. can't have that.

then there was the sh!t about it being an exclusive club. it might have been handy to check out that it was factually incorrect too. then, having not undertaken any due diligence and been found out for it, he went on a whataboutism trail.

sorry, but you have no idea how proper/good journalism works.

that you, slobbo?

Mate, you don’t even know who wrote the story.

And a bit hard to take a lecture in journalism from someone who doesn’t know how to use capital letters at the start of a sentence.

 

[Not Important]

Mate, you don’t even know who wrote the story.

And a bit hard to take a lecture in journalism from someone who doesn’t know how to use capital letters at the start of a sentence.

interesting that after having illustrated your ignorance of the most basic tenets of journalism, you once again divert to the irrelevant. this time, to my use of lowercase. something a super mod also does for convenience, incidentally. i guess when you've been shown up for your ignorance on the matter at hand, that's all you have.

the author of the false story is clear to all but you.

frankly, you have nfi about what proper journalism entails, as you've demonstrated. nick mckenzie is an example of a proper journalist. someone i'd be surprised you were even aware of. the author of the false andrew's piece is a "pop" journo at best. some would say a pseudo-journo. even mark robinson generally attempts to corroborate his pieces before filing.

 

[Chief]

Mate, you don’t even know who wrote the story.

Sounds like a right fool whoever it was.

Maybe they cranked it out from ChatGPT

 

[evolved2]

Now that he's out of power, why can't you just ignore it or him? What affect does he currently have over your life that warrants the continued and perpetual expression of your intense dislike?

I get not liking the bloke. I don't get continuing - or what appears from the outside - to follow the coverage of him, intensely pay attention to his doings when they don't affect you. It doesn't make sense to me.

It's clinging to hatred as dearly as one's own child.

If you don't want to say why you don't have to. Just, what Gralin said flippantly above about obsession appears to be entirely too true, Sttew.

The ScoMo thread is still popular even though he's been out of power far longer than Dan. It's not unusual for people to feel anger towards recent controversial political figures.

 

[evolved2]

Another expensive deal for the taxpayer
Victorian taxpayers have been left with a record bill from this year’s Formula 1 grand prix, with runaway costs associated with the race outpacing revenue generated by record attendances across a bumper four-day event.

The annual report of the Australian Grand Prix Corporation, tabled in state parliament on Thursday, reveals the government-controlled body spent $198 million to stage this year’s race at Albert Park. This represents an increase of $44 million, or 29 per cent, from 2022, and a whopping 72 per cent increase from two races ago.

The cost of this to taxpayers is $100.6 million, up from $78 million in 2022

Meh. It's still worth it.

How much did we pay to not host the Commonwealth games?

 

[evolved2]

I’m not leaving.

 

[Satan]

Meh. It's still worth it.

How much did we pay to not host the Commonwealth games?

Liberty Media, the $12.4 billion, Colorado-based company that owns Formula 1, pulled off a stunning cash grab in its grand prix contract negotiations with the Victorian government by securing all revenue from the event’s most exclusive ticket sales.

Under a previously undisclosed provision within Victoria’s contract extension to keep the Australian Grand Prix, the state has agreed to meet the cost of new or substantially refurbished corporate hospitality facilities at the Albert Park track but will forgo all revenue generated within those plush walls.
Tickets to the Paddock Club – Albert Park’s $6000 per head answer to the Flemington Birdcage – this year contributed $12 million to the bottom line of the Australian Grand Prix Corporation (AGPC). In 2026, when an expanded Paddock Club is due to be completed and the contractual change comes into force, trackside largesse worth an estimated $30 million will flow directly to F1.

The terms of the Victorian government’s 12-year agreement with Liberty Media to stage the Australian Grand Prix until 2037, including the annual fee paid to F1 to secure the promoter’s rights, are subject to strict confidentiality. The minister responsible for the grand prix, Stephen Dimopoulos, and the AGPC declined on Friday to answer questions about the contract.

12 years of losses for the tax payer should be more than cover the comm games fiasco

 

[kalex6251]

The ScoMo thread is still popular even though he's been out of power far longer than Dan. It's not unusual for people to feel anger towards recent controversial political figures.

'out of power' ? ....... the preacher man remains in parliament (hes even got a convicted racist using his national media profile to argue for his return to the shadow front bench)

 

[Sttew]

The ScoMo thread is still popular even though he's been out of power far longer than Dan. It's not unusual for people to feel anger towards recent controversial political figures.

Double standards

 

[Gethelred]

The ScoMo thread is still popular even though he's been out of power far longer than Dan. It's not unusual for people to feel anger towards recent controversial political figures.

While true, there's a good deal of difference between posters whose input is noticed sporadically and comically - posters whose tone and seeming emotion is amused or laughing - and posters whose posting is rather dark to angry.

Nuance exists, even if it's not always acknowledged.

 

[kalex6251]

dr bonham with a wrap of tonights by-election result ..... labor should be reasonably hapy

Mulgrave By-Election 2023: Prospects And Live Commentary

Tasmanian and Australian psephology, opinion poll analysis, election analysis and political commentary by Dr Kevin Bonham.

kevinbonham.blogspot.com

 

[nut]

7500-6,528(22’ election) = 972 votes …

The libs picked up 972 votes and might finish 3rd.

 

[jannissary]

dr bonham with a wrap of tonights by-election result ..... labor should be reasonably hapy

Mulgrave By-Election 2023: Prospects And Live Commentary

Tasmanian and Australian psephology, opinion poll analysis, election analysis and political commentary by Dr Kevin Bonham.

kevinbonham.blogspot.com

the way that Pesutto was speaking made me think that he’d won the seat



like i get that the LNP is a spineless party ran by incompetent morons but all of what he’s saying is meaningless since they couldn’t even have success in the by election!

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

the way that Pesutto was speaking made me think that he’d won the seat



like i get that the LNP is a spineless party ran by incompetent morons but all of what he’s saying is meaningless since they couldn’t even have success in the by election!

It's all just spin. A loss in votes is hardly surprising.

 

[kalex6251]

the way that Pesutto was speaking made me think that he’d won the seat



like i get that the LNP is a spineless party ran by incompetent morons but all of what he’s saying is meaningless since they couldn’t even have success in the by election!

pesuttos 'new dawn'

 

[jannissary]

It's all just spin. A loss in votes is hardly surprising.

even by spin standards it’s embarrassing

 

[evolved2]

While true, there's a good deal of difference between posters whose input is noticed sporadically and comically - posters whose tone and seeming emotion is amused or laughing - and posters whose posting is rather dark to angry.

Nuance exists, even if it's not always acknowledged.

That's more a facet of group psychology more than an indication of one posters psychological state. You've overstepped the bounds of your knowledge in this instance.

The ScoMo thread has very different group dynamics to this thread, wouldn't you agree?

 

[Gethelred]

That's more a facet of group psychology more than an indication of one posters psychological state. You've overstepped the bounds of your knowledge in this instance.

The ScoMo thread has very different group dynamics to this thread, wouldn't you agree?

I would. I've noted before in here that the dynamic in here fascinates me; I understand the desire to join in on laughing at Scomo's post PM doings because it's relatively light. He's got Buckley's chance of achieving power again; once voted out, you're unlikely to be voted back in again here. The man becomes relatively unthreatening; he's a windbag without much power.

Andrews is in a similar position one would think, but the tone of this thread is still just as angry and hurt as it was before he left office. Arguably, moreso.

I don't understand, and I'd like to. It really looks like the anger expressed at him is being clung to more fiercely than a parachute.

 

[evolved2]

I would. I've noted before in here that the dynamic in here fascinates me; I understand the desire to join in on laughing at Scomo's post PM doings because it's relatively light. He's got Buckley's chance of achieving power again; once voted out, you're unlikely to be voted back in again here. The man becomes relatively unthreatening; he's a windbag without much power.

Andrews is in a similar position one would think, but the tone of this thread is still just as angry and hurt as it was before he left office. Arguably, moreso.

I don't understand, and I'd like to. It really looks like the anger expressed at him is being clung to more fiercely than a parachute.

Group dynamics can be understood by the makeup of participants who post in this (Dan) and the other (ScoMo) thread.

There's very little antagonism in the ScoMo thread. It almost functions as a support group. I'm sure this thread would be equally jovial if all participants agreed that Dan is a campaigner.

How much pain can be linked back to each pollie? How many people were personally hurt by ScoMo's government and policies? Compare that to the number of people who were personally hurt by Dan's government and policies. Robodebt is small bickies compared to the harm caused by the Vic government during covid (even if you agree it was necessary).

Another consideration is the form of communication that each pollie used. ScoMo didn't try to antagonise the public, while Dan undoubtedly did. Jeff is another pollie who deliberately antagonised the public, and you'll often see him mentioned in discussion here. The hurt can linger in lefties too, I guess.

 

[Gethelred]

Group dynamics can be understood by the makeup of participants who post in this (Dan) and the other (ScoMo) thread.

There's very little antagonism in the ScoMo thread. It almost functions as a support group. I'm sure this thread would be equally jovial if all participants agreed that Dan is a campaigner.

How much pain can be linked back to each pollie? How many people were personally hurt by ScoMo's government and policies? Compare that to the number of people who were personally hurt by Dan's government and policies. Robodebt is small bickies compared to the harm caused by the Vic government during covid (even if you agree it was necessary).

Another consideration is the form of communication that each pollie used. ScoMo didn't try to antagonise the public, while Dan undoubtedly did. Jeff is another pollie who deliberately antagonised the public, and you'll often see him mentioned in discussion here. The hurt can linger in lefties too, I guess.

... tell you what.

I'll leave you to it.

 

[evolved2]

... tell you what.

I'll leave you to it.

I'm not trying to diminish the robodebt fiasco.

Robodebt affected a small number of us while covid policies/lockdowns affected all Victorians, especially Melbournians. It's understandable that some still feel the pain.

 

[Romeoh1]

Congrats to eden foster -good luck.

 

[MPMonkeys]

interesting that after having illustrated your ignorance of the most basic tenets of journalism, you once again divert to the irrelevant. this time, to my use of lowercase. something a super mod also does for convenience, incidentally. i guess when you've been shown up for your ignorance on the matter at hand, that's all you have.

the author of the false story is clear to all but you.

frankly, you have nfi about what proper journalism entails, as you've demonstrated. nick mckenzie is an example of a proper journalist. someone i'd be surprised you were even aware of. the author of the false andrew's piece is a "pop" journo at best. some would say a pseudo-journo. even mark robinson generally attempts to corroborate his pieces before filing.

Nick McKenzie is a great journalist however he practices long form journalism and would be lucky to produce 2 articles a month.

To suggest that all media be the same is ludicrous.

 

[kalex6251]

 

[Satan]

Katies dad?