Player Watch Darcy Cameron

[nahnah]

He is our 2nd best player and has a huge role in our side, I really wouldn't entertain a trade unless you get basically TDK in return and then you have to teach the equivalent of TDK (Doubt Blues agree to deal him to us) how to play in a proper side/system

 

[Kes1984]

Cummings only gets junk mail.

 

[Pendles!]

I'm not sure what you base this theory on. Goldsack is 36/37? Ruckman usually take longer to develop....

Goldstein is absolutely cooked tbf.

It’s a tough one. He’s so important for us but I wouldn’t be surprised if he moves if he’s being offered better $$$ + contract length elsewhere.

We also showed with Grundy we don’t want that much tied up in the ruck position. Whether they deem that Cameron offers enough to our game style to warrant it though, I don’t know.

Would be a huge loss.

 

[901023]

Goldstein is absolutely cooked tbf.

It’s a tough one. He’s so important for us but I wouldn’t be surprised if he moves if he’s being offered better $$$ + contract length elsewhere.

We also showed with Grundy we don’t want that much tied up in the ruck position. Whether they deem that Cameron offers enough to our game style to warrant it though, I don’t know.

Would be a huge loss.

Goldstein was never as good around the ground as Cameron, and his priority hasn't been rucking in the AFL for the past 2 to 3 years (development coaching has). What I am saying is that despite this, he was STILL okay against us on ANZAC DAY.

Cameron is clearly a different type of ruckman to Grundy. Grundy could never take contested/intercept marks and still can't.

I'm not sure why you would question whether Cameron offers enough to compliment our game style as he's been ONE of the main reasons why we won the flag in 2023, he improved again in 2024 and has gone up a gear again this year!

His reading of the play, composure, contested and intercept marking are ELITE. Only Gawn is ahead of him IMO as a ruck and not even he cannot match Cameron in intercept marks!

We won't be able to match what WCE offer Cameron, so the ball will be in his court. He will have a choice of whether to go to his home state and take the extra money or stay for a reduced amount and play in a serious football side, which he clearly seems to enjoy being a part of.

Whether he stays or goes - Collingwood will survive and thrive. Don't be fooled by the position of ruck. Cameron's weapon is his positioning, clearances and marking around the ground in open play. Not so much hit outs.

 

[jimmy35]

I don't think anyone rates what Scott Cummings says, tbh.

The pie warmer is wary of his every move though.

 

[jimmy35]

He is our 2nd best player and has a huge role in our side, I really wouldn't entertain a trade unless you get basically TDK in return and then you have to teach the equivalent of TDK (Doubt Blues agree to deal him to us) how to play in a proper side/system

No way. It would cost and arm and a leg in salary. Then you’d have to factor in the time and cost to wash the Filth out of him.

 

[Pistol Night]

Goldstein was never as good around the ground as Cameron, and his priority hasn't been rucking in the AFL for the past 2 to 3 years (development coaching has). What I am saying is that despite this, he was STILL okay against us on ANZAC DAY.

Cameron is clearly a different type of ruckman to Grundy. Grundy could never take contested/intercept marks and still can't.

I'm not sure why you would question whether Cameron offers enough to compliment our game style as he's been ONE of the main reasons why we won the flag in 2023, he improved again in 2024 and has gone up a gear again this year!

His reading of the play, composure, contested and intercept marking are ELITE. Only Gawn is ahead of him IMO as a ruck and not even he cannot match Cameron in intercept marks!

We won't be able to match what WCE offer Cameron, so the ball will be in his court. He will have a choice of whether to go to his home state and take the extra money or stay for a reduced amount and play in a serious football side, which he clearly seems to enjoy being a part of.

Whether he stays or goes - Collingwood will survive and thrive. Don't be fooled by the position of ruck. Cameron's weapon is his positioning, clearances and marking around the ground in open play. Not so much hit outs.

Im sure ill get told im wrong but i still think Steene will be a player. Ruckman dont even come on the radar until they're 25-26. Darcy is nearly 30 and now were seeing his best. Xerri has been around for 8 years. Patience with these big blokes is key

 

[mocamagic]

I hope Cameron stays but if he leaves and we are well compensated then so be it.

 

[Kes1984]

Im sure ill get told im wrong but i still think Steene will be a player. Ruckman dont even come on the radar until they're 25-26. Darcy is nearly 30 and now were seeing his best. Xerri has been around for 8 years. Patience with these big blokes is key

You’re not wrong

 

[gouki88]

One ruckman hit 30 you have to be careful with these contracts. Could offer him a 2 year extension on the current one and bump his coin up slightly.
If WCE offer us something decent you have to look at it due to his age/position.

Many of the premier ruckman are in their 30s, and Cameron’s style of play mostly resembles Gawn (ie not too reliant on athleticism like a Grundy or TDK).

 

[Frankie23]

Imagine winning a flag and getting pick 2.

 

[Primetime Pricey]

Looks that way.... Gawn is still the dominant ruckman at 34.

and Cameron is 30 turning 31 hence extend him for a couple seasons on the current deal which would take him to that 34 year age.

 

[gouki88]

and Cameron is 30 turning 31 hence extend him for a couple seasons on the current deal which would take him to that 34 year age.

Cameron is a bit atypical though, given he only just played his 100th game due to being such a late bloomer.

 

[Primetime Pricey]

Cameron is a bit atypical though, given he only just played his 100th game due to being such a late bloomer.

Ruckman are the 1 position where the norm is once they hit that 32-33 age they go downhill quickly. Gawn is obviously the outlier but you cant give big contacts to them after that 30 age. The fact he is under contract til end of next season, just extend for a further 2 which will take him to 34ish and then do the 1 year contract offers.

 

[gouki88]

Ruckman are the 1 position where the norm is once they hit that 32-33 age they go downhill quickly. Gawn is obviously the outlier but you cant give big contacts to them after that 30 age. The fact he is under contract til end of next season, just extend for a further 2 which will take him to 34ish and then do the 1 year contract offers.

In recent years, Gawn, Witts, Goldstein, Sandilands, Mumford, Ryder and McEvoy have all rucked pretty well into their 30s. I think the way Cameron plays lends itself to longevity.

 

[Dtennent94]

Wouldn’t like to lose him, but if we could be well compensated and pick up a decent ruck on the cheap, it could almost work out for the best (obviously a risk at backfiring).

Look at Hawks picking up Meek for nothing and now having one of the better rucks in the league.

Could be a chance for a win-win to regenerate the list a little bit and reward Cameron as he deserves. Not sure WCE really win in the equation due to where their list is at, but that’s not my concern.

This could be the kind of move that unlocks an opportunity for Reid, Rowell, Butters, Bont, etc

 

[Copeland]

Imagine winning a flag and getting pick 2.

I’ll take it, where do I sign

 

[Matty_G]

Imagine winning a flag and getting pick 2.

It's what we'd be demanding if it came to it, he's worth much more than whatever West Coast's 2nd rounder will end up being. Or we could get even more cheeky and offer DC & future first rounder for Harley Reid.

Outside of that, no dice.

 

[jmac70]

Imagine winning a flag and getting pick 2.

Would prefer to win the flag and keep Cameron.

 

[901023]

Ruckman are the 1 position where the norm is once they hit that 32-33 age they go downhill quickly. Gawn is obviously the outlier but you cant give big contacts to them after that 30 age. The fact he is under contract til end of next season, just extend for a further 2 which will take him to 34ish and then do the 1 year contract offers.

Our current 'OLD' list is proof that modern high performance and recovery is enabling players to extend their longevity.

Not sure these definitive statements are relevant.

 

[Kappa]

We're so lucky he's turned into the player he has

Genuine superstar now

 

[gouki88]

We're so lucky he's turned into the player he has

Genuine superstar now

Lucky is an interesting term for it. I think that probably undersells our role in his development and seeing his role evolve

 

[Black_White]

Is he signed?
While everyone in the media seem focused on Nick, I think our whole premiership run will depend heavily on Darcy.
And that means ongoing premiership defences will also depend on him.
Must retain.

 

[granniewolf]

and Cameron is 30 turning 31 hence extend him for a couple seasons on the current deal which would take him to that 34 year age.

Darcy will turn 30 next month. July 18 just to keep the record straight

 

[granniewolf]

Surely this can't be true, Carlton eyeing off DC if they lose TDK.

Carlton's contingency plan revealed: AFL trade news

The ruck merry-go-round is set to begin...

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