Universal Love David Mackay Appreciation Thread

[Bovo]

It's really the list manager who extended him and the selectors who rank him about 25th on a per game basis that keep selecting him that we are bashing. Mackay is just an average 24th-34th type player who has been overpaid and overselected. Not his fault.

Mackay at his best is a bloody good player. His problem is being able to get back to his best. Whether that is because he has been played out of his position (I think his best position is the wing....not the backline) or that he has just had a flat run....not sure. Perhaps there was too much pressure of him being the link up player and he could not handle it....don't know. In any regard with a better balance of outside run perhaps the pressure will not be as great and he may go back to what he does best. I just think there is too much emphasis on the VB/Mackay bashing on this forum. I think it has just gone too far IMO.

 

[fabs33]

I just think there is too much emphasis on the VB/Mackay bashing on this forum. I think it has just gone too far IMO.

I think as long as the selectors keep picking them it's fair.

 

[Deaneus!]

Is it just me or are others getting sick of all the Mackay bashing? Right now he is a Crow. Right now he has a chance to get back to his best and assist us moving forward. Can't we pick on something else....like the Powa?

I'll wait until the Round 1 team is named... and then immediately after that game... before I venture an opinion

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

I'll wait until the Round 1 team is named... and then immediately after that game... before I venture an opinion

Don either has me forever or has lost me forever based on the R1 selections

 

[1970crow]

I think as long as the selectors keep picking them it's fair.

This is the crux of it. If they're out of form, treat them like the 20 gamers who have an excuse to throw in a bad one and send them to the 2's. And then apply the same need of weeks of high quality sanfl form before recalling them. Not use the first excuse to rush them back in so they can return to the same form that saw them belatedly dropped in the first place.

 

[Swooping Crow]

This thread needs to given the old heave-ho or changed to Spud Appreciation Thread.

 

[fabs33]

Don either has me forever or has lost me forever based on the R1 selections

The pressure!

 

[Ozzie]

Dmac is the new Brent Reilly. Bloke, could make the AA team and still be shat on by some of you. Some of the comments are hatred based.

 

[Swooping Crow]

Dmac is the new Brent Reilly. Bloke, could make the AA team and still be shat on by some of you. Some of the comments are hatred based.

I don't think the condemnation of VB and Mckay is based on hate. It is based on the fact they are continually selected when they don't perform. Who do you think are the weakest 2 players in our starting line up? I think you will find the vast majority here would state Mckay and VB given their non-statistical roles much admired by Vader.

 

[1970crow]

Dmac is the new Brent Reilly. Bloke, could make the AA team and still be shat on by some of you. Some of the comments are hatred based.

Finished mid-20's on a votes per game basis in last year's B&F but still get selected ahead of younger blokes killing it in the sanfl and doing well with limited opportunities at the highest level. If they earned their spot on form or there wasn't anyone fit and in form to take their place then there wouldn't be the critique. Then there's these blind loyalty for experienced plodders posts like yours that demand a reply.

 

[Ozzie]

Finished mid-20's on a votes per game basis in last year's B&F but still get selected ahead of younger blokes killing it in the sanfl and doing well with limited opportunities at the highest level. If they earned their spot on form or there wasn't anyone fit and in form to take their place then there wouldn't be the critique. Then there's these blind loyalty for experienced plodders posts like yours that demand a reply.

Hey, we did this go around before. I think his time is up, we agreed on this BUT there is no need for some of the posts about him which IMO are near enough to being hate based. Now I 'm not singling anyone out in particular but Reilly copped the same sort of crap for years. People forget not every player can gather 25+ possies a game. As long as they do their role I'm happy, also you can't play everyone at the same time.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

How those rolly eyes looking now. Yeah, 2015 would have been a disaster without him.

And shows how little you know about football .......this based on 2015 ........who's the fool now!

Adelaide's Top 10 in Official AFL Player Ratings

PLAYER RANKING RATING POINTS
Rory Sloane 5 625.2
Sam Jacobs 12 588.5
Eddie Betts 21 502.1
Brodie Smith 45 461.3
Richard Douglas 59 443.1
Scott Thompson 71 429.3
Taylor Walker 116 378.6
Josh Jenkins 164 338.1
Tom Lynch 176 332.6
David Mackay 187 325.5

 

[Ozzie]

I don't think the condemnation of VB and Mckay is based on hate. It is based on the fact they are continually selected when they don't perform. Who do you think are the weakest 2 players in our starting line up? I think you will find the vast majority here would state Mckay and VB given their non-statistical roles much admired by Vader.

Read what I said to Matt, It is based on hate, non-stop slamming of them. Both do a lot of work in close which is not recognised by some on here. The commentators seem to get both mixed up when calling the games as well. Last year for both was a down year but in the past, they have both had good years. What I like about this year is we have experienced options to take their place.
But what really gets me is this: It seems to be de rigueur to pump up the younger blokes when they are clearly not ready. If picked, they may play 1 or 2 good games and then they fall away or get injured. This year it will depend on who the selectors think is the best option for a change, none of us have seen them train on a consistent basis, no pre-season games have been played yet but here we are, 2 veteran players are already written off by most on here. I don't think they will make the side but who knows, ATS none of us do.

 

[Elite Crow]

Oh dear

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Dmac is the new Brent Reilly. Bloke, could make the AA team and still be shat on by some of you. Some of the comments are hatred based.

Really are the worse supporters .....players that have represented this great club & even captained the club are treated on this forum with zero respect

All players have a finite career ......have swings in form ....or the game changes & makes some players obsolete

But none of these "so called" supporters have done anything in sport .....that i guarantee, because they wouldn't heap the shit on players, the way they do ....... because if they had done anything of any note, they would have walked the mile in a players shoes & would have empathy.

Van Berlo had a horrible archilles .....takes more than a year .....but as a former club captain, his treatment is nothing short of disgraceful ......same with Doughty

I agree ......you wouldn't think supporters would have as much hatred of club players as they do

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Finished mid-20's on a votes per game basis in last year's B&F but still get selected ahead of younger blokes killing it in the sanfl and doing well with limited opportunities at the highest level. If they earned their spot on form or there wasn't anyone fit and in form to take their place then there wouldn't be the critique. Then there's these blind loyalty for experienced plodders posts like yours that demand a reply.

You have a wonderful way of twisting posts to what YOU THINK was said ......do you actually think b4 you post?
As i've reiterated you have zero footy knowledge .....zero credibility ......but given you're obviously still have a young developing mind (we hope) .....i make certain allowances, but you make it hard

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I don't think the condemnation of VB and Mckay is based on hate. It is based on the fact they are continually selected when they don't perform. Who do you think are the weakest 2 players in our starting line up? I think you will find the vast majority here would state Mckay and VB given their non-statistical roles much admired by Vader.

Oh i think it is ......let me ask you ...are your opinions on everything in life based upon "what the majority thinks"? .........or can you have independent thought & not fear the fact it might not always be consistent with the majority

Successful people are always of independent thought .......

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Read what I said to Matt, It is based on hate, non-stop slamming of them. Both do a lot of work in close which is not recognised by some on here. The commentators seem to get both mixed up when calling the games as well. Last year for both was a down year but in the past, they have both had good years. What I like about this year is we have experienced options to take their place.
But what really gets me is this: It seems to be de rigueur to pump up the younger blokes when they are clearly not ready. If picked, they may play 1 or 2 good games and then they fall away or get injured. This year it will depend on who the selectors think is the best option for a change, none of us have seen them train on a consistent basis, no pre-season games have been played yet but here we are, 2 veteran players are already written off by most on here. I don't think they will make the side but who knows, ATS none of us do.

This is the key ......not one poster actually knows what has transpired over the last 6 months ......who's improved and who hasn't

Yet we have posters like Drugs Are Bad Mackay? threatening that his opinion of the coach will be determined by who he picks ......what a juvenile statement !

 

[Deaneus!]

Dmac is the new Brent Reilly. Bloke, could make the AA team and still be shat on by some of you.

Dmac, make the AA team.

Last year for both was a down year but in the past, they have both had good years.

In Dmac's case, these are "contract negotiation" years, and not so much years as they are "the week before the contract is negotiated and signed"

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Elite Crow .....these are the times i enjoy not having to read your negative garbage .....and i didn't have to read it to know the crap you would have posted

You made my 2015 BF experience so much better .....thankyou for the stalking .....small things amuse small minds

 

[Deaneus!]

Look at that AA form

THOSE AREN'T QUARTERS, THEY'RE INDIVIDUAL GAMES

 

[1970crow]

Read what I said to Matt, It is based on hate, non-stop slamming of them. Both do a lot of work in close which is not recognised by some on here. The commentators seem to get both mixed up when calling the games as well. Last year for both was a down year but in the past, they have both had good years. What I like about this year is we have experienced options to take their place.
But what really gets me is this: It seems to be de rigueur to pump up the younger blokes when they are clearly not ready. If picked, they may play 1 or 2 good games and then they fall away or get injured. This year it will depend on who the selectors think is the best option for a change, none of us have seen them train on a consistent basis, no pre-season games have been played yet but here we are, 2 veteran players are already written off by most on here. I don't think they will make the side but who knows, ATS none of us do.

I think the answer lies within the above response. The younger ones play 1 or 2 good games and fall away so get sent back. The same rule didn't apply to VB, Wright and Dmac. They get to play weeks and weeks of sub-par football but with their experience they should be less likely to have form dips. We should be showing greater patience with the kids than we do the experienced players out of form.

 

[Ozzie]

Dmac, make the AA team.

In Dmac's case, these are "contract negotiation" years, and not so much years as they are "the week before the contract is negotiated and signed"

Love the pic...good one.

 

[Ozzie]

I think the answer lies within the above response. The younger ones play 1 or 2 good games and fall away so get sent back. The same rule didn't apply to VB, Wright and Dmac. They get to play weeks and weeks of sub-par football but with their experience they should be less likely to have form dips. We should be showing greater patience with the kids than we do the experienced players out of form.

The only thing the older players have over the youngsters is sometimes they can lift themselves out of a form slump easier than them. I'm really looking forward to this season, I think it will show a transformation of our side. I would be very disappointed if we miss the finals.

 

[1970crow]

Really are the worse supporters .....players that have represented this great club & even captained the club are treated on this forum with zero respect

All players have a finite career ......have swings in form ....or the game changes & makes some players obsolete

But none of these "so called" supporters have done anything in sport .....that i guarantee, because they wouldn't heap the shit on players, the way they do ....... because if they had done anything of any note, they would have walked the mile in a players shoes & would have empathy.

Van Berlo had a horrible archilles .....takes more than a year .....but as a former club captain, his treatment is nothing short of disgraceful ......same with Doughty

I agree ......you wouldn't think supporters would have as much hatred of club players as they do

VB was no worse on return from his Achilles than the 2 seasons prior. I just want the best available team selected and to build towards a premiership. Playing favourites and selecting on tenure only gets you where we've gotten over the last decade. Not surprised you stooped to the level you just did. You really have very little idea as is proven time and time again.