David Warner

[Hellgood]

Theres an interesting blog on the double standards in regard to how western and asian batsmen are rated away from home.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/blogs/content/story/710563.html
http://www.espncricinfo.com/blogs/content/story/710563.html

 

[krisholio14]

Obviously you don't attend or watch Boxing Day, best innings I've ever seen on Boxing day when he scored 195. He was an excellent player of spin bowling but struggled against good swing bowling, but that is common for a lot of subcontinent players. It also works in reverse.

So why then do some recent great Australian players Australian batsman fail on the subcontinent?
Ponting & Gilchrist continually failed in India
Hussey's average away from home is almost 20 runs less
But I guess they're just overrated players as well working off your system of judging players.

Just because I said he was a flat track bully doesn't mean I don't think he could bat.

I don't really care what Australian batsmens averages are on the subcontinent because I don't support the Australian team.

As a supporter of Sri Lanka, for example, I'm not too precious that I couldn't agree if someone was to suggest that Mahela Jayawardene is a bit of a flat track bully. Still a great batsman, albeit not as explosive as some of the players mentioned here, but definitely prefers it at home rather than away.

In time, I think Dave Warner will be proven to be a much better batsman than Sehwag (and Mahela for that matter)

 

[Slax]

Theres an interesting blog on the double standards in regard to how western and asian batsmen are rated away from home.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/blogs/content/story/710563.html

Very good blog, although wonder if the writer is still of the same opinion of Warner after the recent SA series. But the fact about including bowlers. There are many in this country who degrade subcontinent players because they fail when tehy tour here and say they are overrated, yet when our own players fail on the subcontinent we write it off as an anomily.

I actually look forward to seeing Warner tour the subcontinent again. He has had one tour there so far, but if he can show that he has sorted out his mental attitude and focused on his cricket the single tour there may be the aboration not the norm.

 

[Partridge]

Theres an interesting blog on the double standards in regard to how western and asian batsmen are rated away from home.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/blogs/content/story/710563.html

Fantastic article. Very true too.

 

[Partridge]

My summation of what swann said about Warner

Likes talking shit to the opposition when he's up and about doing well
Quiet when he isn't doing so well
Pretends to like the rough and tumble but it's all a bit of false bravado
Can play cricket alright but is a bit of a tosser that he wouldn't like to have a beer with

On balance probably a fair bit of truth to all that. Could also have been standing in front of a mirror describing what he saw

I'd like to find a test cricketer who doesn't fall into that category to be honest.

 

[Partridge]

Thats fair enough but he has a long long way to go, before he can be considered in the same class as The Master Blaster.

He can start by taking his helmet off.

 

[Belnakor]

Theres an interesting blog on the double standards in regard to how western and asian batsmen are rated away from home.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/blogs/content/story/710563.html

thought this bit was a bit rich

Much is made of Shane Warne's poor record in India (averaging 43) but the same isn't done of Australia's quicks for that reason, I assume. Each of Dennis Lillee, Jeff Thomson, Rodney Hogg, Brett Lee and Mitchell Johnson averaged over 40 in Asia - although in some cases the sample size is rather small. Basically, with the exception of Craig McDermott, who averages 37, the assembly line of scary, oft-'tached Australian howitzers is filled with bowlers who rarely succeeded in Asia.

forget about mcgrath and gillepse of course

 

[Mateyman]

A personal opinion of mine: Australian and English pitches are the most balanced in the world. It is very possible to succeed as a spinner or a fast bowler in these 2 countries. That's why there's plenty of great Australian and to a lesser extent English spinners, as well as fast bowlers. However, India has had about 1 great fast bowler in history, and the same for SL. Pakistan is the exception, with quite a few fast bowlers of note. SA on the other is so seam oriented they barely have any great spinners in modern times.

 

[eth-dog]

A personal opinion of mine: Australian and English pitches are the most balanced in the world. It is very possible to succeed as a spinner or a fast bowler in these 2 countries. That's why there's plenty of great Australian and to a lesser extent English spinners, as well as fast bowlers. However, India has had about 1 great fast bowler in history, and the same for SL. Pakistan is the exception, with quite a few fast bowlers of note. SA on the other is so seam oriented they barely have any great spinners in modern times.

Is Sri Lanka's Vaas?

 

[Mateyman]

Is Sri Lanka's Vaas?

He's all I could think of?

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

Swann is a gutless front runner who is casting stones from the safety of retirement. He couldn't even stick out his last series, just up and quit when things got tough.

We all know that David isn't the sharpest tool in the shed, however he is a fierce competitor and loves a scrap. That mongrel is what the Australian team thrives on, and it is why we pantsed the soft, arrogant, mentally weak pathetic excuse of a cricket team England fielded.

If Swann thinks for one second that Davey didn't cop it from the Saffers for his comments in the media then he is an even more clueless ******* than I first thought.

As far as I'm concerned anything Swann says has absolutely no credibility whatsoever.

Yes, agreed. The moment things got a little tough, you didn't see Swann for dust. Couldn't care less what Swann thinks of Aussie cricketers, he has zero credibility in my eyes. Give me a Warner type over a quitter any day of the week.

 

[Howard Littlejohn]

It's hard to imagine Warner just abandoning his teammates halfway through a losing series just because it all got too hard.

Not hard to imagine him abandoning his club team mates and going to the races instead though.

 

[Jackfrost]

Warner is one of the most talented batsmen in the country.

A couple of cricket judges whose opinions I note and respect, said to me about 18 months ago that Warner was the best hitter of a ball they'd seen since Viv Richards.

At first I laffed, but on thinking about it later, in terms of pure hitting, they probably weren't far off the mark.

I think he's been unfairly pigeonholed, and as I said earlier, since he's been given a real go at first class level he's making big runs against decent attacks on their pitches.

Sure, you might like him to play another 20 games and 'prove' himself, but why? He's a prodigious talent who is in red hot form, why shouldn't he be given a go? The Aussie selectors have promoted batsmen of far less talent with comparable experience in the past.

This guy!