David Warner

[western royboy]

Surely Phil Hughes should be smart enough to realise his own technical flaws and work on them himself? He seems like an intelligent guy.

He does now, but for years he had muppets parading as personal coaches and advisors pumping up his tyres and telling him that everything was ok and his technique was fine - that's the problem.

The funniest thing I saw or read over the whole Test Series was an article that ran in fairfax press with self appointed cricket coaching "guru" - Neil D'Costa analysing the flaws in our batsmen. What he actually wrote was pretty spot on, however, he bandies himself around as the guy who made Michael Clarke and now Phil Hughes. He didn't critique Phil Hughes which was funny given he was in charge of him for years and allowed him to continue with such a massive flaw in his game during his formative years that it has potentially cruelled his international career.

Hughes should have been next after Ponting and Clarke as Australian batting geniuses - that he is not has a lot to do with this "guru".

I will add - every few weeks I see "talented" kids playing in my own junior comps. But I still see technical flaws in their games. I'll happily pass on my advice and knowledge and I get some mild comfort from seeing kids that take up my advice and improve and become better players and some now adult coaches in their own right.

But often I get the nah I'm making runs I don't need to make any changes or what I would call the if it aint broke don't fix it mentality. Batting in cricket hasn't changed a lot in terms of technical basics over a long period of time and few if any can defy those basics. I want kids to be able to play and enjoy the game at whatever level they want but nothing stifles batting more than poor technique. Get it right at the bottom and fix big flaws early and the rest is a lot easier.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Surely Phil Hughes should be smart enough to realise his own technical flaws and work on them himself? He seems like an intelligent guy. Too smart to look like a helicopter when he bats and think he can get away with it at Test level for an extended period.

Was an article in the paper yesterday about how after the game Hughes will head to the WA locker room and talk to Langer about fixing some problems.. so clearly he does.

 

[Selective Retention]

In era's gone past we always had a gun coming through, Ponting, Clarke etc that were identified at 12 - tell me the next one?

The next one was Moises Henriques. He had massive hype as a teenager but has never quite clicked in senior cricket. You are right though that the absolute prodigies just aren't coming through anymore, most of them are probably siphoned off through the AFL pathways before cricket even realise what they are losing.

 

[amer]

The next one was Moises Henriques. He had massive hype as a teenager but has never quite clicked in senior cricket. You are right though that the absolute prodigies just aren't coming through anymore, most of them are probably siphoned off through the AFL pathways before cricket even realise what they are losing.

Correct. Footy is taking very nearly all of them.

 

[amer]

Annoying that Warner has made runs with the red ball. He'll nick off to the keeper on about 2 in the first innings at the Gabba, before doing the same after one or two boundaries in the second.

 

[western royboy]

The next one was Moises Henriques. He had massive hype as a teenager but has never quite clicked in senior cricket. You are right though that the absolute prodigies just aren't coming through anymore, most of them are probably siphoned off through the AFL pathways before cricket even realise what they are losing.

Moises was a Guru Greg selection which folowed on from his annointing of Shane Watson previously, I haven't heard who the next one is - in my book they are different to the protege batsman that everyone had heard a buzz about (Kookaburra signed ponting at age 12 and Slazenger Clarke at the same age) the word was out on them very early and there used to be the odd article about them in the Cricket Magazine that Ken Piesse used to produce during the late '80's early '90's.

 

[The_Reaper]

Agreed.

We had Punter and maybe Marto of that generation and then since Clarke we've only had Hughes.

 

[dantm]

*bump*

Great thread!

 

[DeadlyAkkuret]

http://www.news.com.au/sport/cricke...ing-twitter-rant/story-fndpt0dy-1226645773059

Suspend him from the Test team, tear up his contract, do whatever just to get him out of this team. Guy is a moron and an average player.

Thread delivers.

 

[muckypup]

Thread delivers.

Craddock should at least do a 'why I was wrong article" if he hasn't already.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Thread delivers.

Haven't seen any proof yet to the contrary. Where was this on the tracks in India and England? oh thats right when the ball moves the guy can't score.

 

[muckypup]

Haven't seen any proof yet to the contrary. Where was this on the tracks in India and England? oh thats right when the ball moves the guy can't score.

"Since Warner's first-innings failure in Centurion, the Proteas' renowned bowling attack has been unable to shackle him, to the extent he became only the ninth player in Test history to reach 50 five times in a three-Test series. In scoring 543 runs at an average of 90.5, with three centuries among them, he has trumped in the past three Tests what he achieved in those first 10 outside Australia.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket...outh-africa-20140305-347li.html#ixzz2vJsfoL6x"

 

[Kram]

Haven't seen any proof yet to the contrary. Where was this on the tracks in India and England? oh thats right when the ball moves the guy can't score.

You are like a woman Brades, can never admit that you were wrong

 

[Mateyman]

Haven't seen any proof yet to the contrary. Where was this on the tracks in India and England? oh thats right when the ball moves the guy can't score.

SA... the well known batman's paradise.. where opening batsmen have it easy

 

[Bradesmaen]

SA... the well known batman's paradise.. where opening batsmen have it easy

Chris Rogers likes this

 

[eth-dog]

Haven't seen any proof yet to the contrary. Where was this on the tracks in India and England? oh thats right when the ball moves the guy can't score.

Over 500 runs against Steyn, Morkel and Philander. Yeah, shit, delist.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Over 500 runs against Steyn, Morkel and Philander. Yeah, shit, delist.

the same morkel and philander that everyone is saying are completely shit? sure. Can't have it both ways like normal aussie cricket fans...

 

[Kram]

Going down with the sinking ship I see Brades, good stuff

 

[eth-dog]

the same morkel and philander that everyone is saying are completely shit? sure. Can't have it both ways like normal aussie cricket fans...

The same Morne Morkel with nearly 200 test wickets and a strike rate of 58, and the same Vernon Philander with over 100 test wickets at an average of 20 and a strike rate of 42? Johnson has a strike rate of 58.

 

[Mateyman]

The same Morne Morkel with nearly 200 test wickets and a strike rate of 58, and the same Vernon Philander with over 100 test wickets at an average of 20 and a strike rate of 42? Johnson has a strike rate of 58.

When batting, yes, but when bowling, it is 50
I agree overall though

 

[hbk_aus]

In awesome form. Still an unlikable twat though unfortunately. I blame small-man syndrome.

 

[DaRick]

I was a backer of his earlier in his Test career and I did repeatedly say that he could be our Sehwag (despite his inconsistency), so I saw him as being quite valuable. He may not be the most...intellectual...of cricketers, but when he's in his form, who really cares? He was a big difference between us and SA this series - and many people expected him to struggle on SA's decks, too. I hope it continues.

 

[Ron]

I see Swann had a crack at him today, which is rather ironical considering Swann is a coward who quit on his mates in the middle of a tour.

 

[dantm]

Graeme Swann,
Averaged 40 against Australia and over 52 in Australia.
Would be a good result with the bat,but this is his bowling average.

Still smarting over Warner smashing him into retirement

 

[DaRick]

I see Swann had a crack at him today, which is rather ironical considering Swann is a coward who quit on his mates in the middle of a tour.

He was very 'cheeky' in announcing his retirement, wasn't he?

What a clown. Hey Graeme, how does it feel being smashed into the annals of history?