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Draft Expert Davo-27's 2025 Draft Thread

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Here's is my first real top 50 + 6 for this year's draft, better late than never, warning differing opinions may offend, so take a deep breath and enjoy

1. Dyson Sharp
2. Willem Duursma
3. Zeke Uwland (gc)
4. Dylan Patterson (gc)
5. Aidan Schubert
6. Harry Dean (carl)
7. Sullivan Robey
8. Cooper Duff-Tytler
9. Josh Lindsay
10. Oliver Greeves
11. Sam Grlj
12. Dan Annable (bris)
13. Mitch Marsh
14. Lachlan Carmichael (syd)
15. Beau Addinsall (gc)
16. Blake Thredgold
17. Xavier Taylor
18. Sam Cumming
19. Lachy Dovaston
20. Jesse Mellor (geel)
21. Koby Coulson (gc)
22. Hugo Mikunda
23. Harley Barker
24. Cam Nairn
25. Riley Onley
26. Jacob Farrow
27. Noah Hibbins-Hargreaves
28. Max King (syd)
29. Adam Sweid (ess)
30. Felix Kneipp
31. Charlie Banfield (wce)
32. Avery Thomas
33. Hunter Holmes
34. Koby Evans (wce)
35. Wes Walley (wce)
36. Hussein El Achkar (ess)
37. Archie Ludowyke
38. Matt LeRay
39. Zac McCarthy (coll)
40. Louis Kellaway (rich)
41. Taj Murray
42. Louis Emmett
43. Cody Curtin
44. Thomas McGuane
45. Jevan Phillipou
46. Oskar Taylor
47. Jack Miller
48. Talor Byrne
49. Sam Ainsworth
50. Latrelle Sumner-Pickett
51. Blake Oudshoorn-Bennier
52. Blake Kelly
53. Fred Rodriguez
54. Sam Swaddling
55. Tairon Ah-Mu
56. Liam Hetherton

These are 56 players I think will be drafted...
Just curious, no spot for Jai Murray (gc)? Some people have him better than Addinsall, Coulson.
 
Here's is my first real top 50 + 6 for this year's draft, better late than never, warning differing opinions may offend, so take a deep breath and enjoy

1. Dyson Sharp
2. Willem Duursma
3. Zeke Uwland (gc)
4. Dylan Patterson (gc)
5. Aidan Schubert
6. Harry Dean (carl)
7. Sullivan Robey
8. Cooper Duff-Tytler
9. Josh Lindsay
10. Oliver Greeves
11. Sam Grlj
12. Dan Annable (bris)
13. Mitch Marsh
14. Lachlan Carmichael (syd)
15. Beau Addinsall (gc)
16. Blake Thredgold
17. Xavier Taylor
18. Sam Cumming
19. Lachy Dovaston
20. Jesse Mellor (geel)
21. Koby Coulson (gc)
22. Hugo Mikunda
23. Harley Barker
24. Cam Nairn
25. Riley Onley
26. Jacob Farrow
27. Noah Hibbins-Hargreaves
28. Max King (syd)
29. Adam Sweid (ess)
30. Felix Kneipp
31. Charlie Banfield (wce)
32. Avery Thomas
33. Hunter Holmes
34. Koby Evans (wce)
35. Wes Walley (wce)
36. Hussein El Achkar (ess)
37. Archie Ludowyke
38. Matt LeRay
39. Zac McCarthy (coll)
40. Louis Kellaway (rich)
41. Taj Murray
42. Louis Emmett
43. Cody Curtin
44. Thomas McGuane
45. Jevan Phillipou
46. Oskar Taylor
47. Jack Miller
48. Talor Byrne
49. Sam Ainsworth
50. Latrelle Sumner-Pickett
51. Blake Oudshoorn-Bennier
52. Blake Kelly
53. Fred Rodriguez
54. Sam Swaddling
55. Tairon Ah-Mu
56. Liam Hetherton

These are 56 players I think will be drafted...
Can you imagine the uproar if Annabel fell to 12 and Lions could pick another player in the first round at 26
 

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Like it overall Davo-27 , no issue at all with Sharp being #1 and CDT sliding. Very strong end to the teens above in my view, particularly the last two who I rate very highly. Would be interested to know why you have them sliding. Good work as always.

Just gonna spit ball a few notes as I read that if you wish to elaborate on I’d love to pick your brain as to their position relative to the general consensus.

Duursma not 1, Sharp
Lindsay high with only kicking
Schubert top 5 shorter at combine
Greeves 10 no defensive game
Carmichael high
XT Cumming Dov late teens????
Coulson high, vanilla no afl level traits
Onley 25? Too raw no defensive game
Farrow super low? Maybe mid concerns
Sweid high afl position?
Wes Walley 35 terrible season may not even get cat B at eagles
Phillipou O Taylor super low athleticism merchants?
Love Blake Kelly in there.


I will elaborate on these later but just quick notes
Sharp and Duursma i have in that elite grouping, i think contested ball winning is a more valuable skill, i think Duursma might be stuck playing wing and hbf at the next level, he is a good kick, but can have brain fades in d50, Sharp is incredible in close and is a good kick in congestion for him to consistently kick well under the pressure he is in is incredible, great hands and can feed runners, tough, I just think Sharp will be a better AFL Footballer, I think Duursma has great traits and Sharp has a great all round game
Lindsay's kicking under pressure is elite, reminds me of Karl Amon and im a fan of how he plays
Schubert is a very talented kpf, its that simple
Greeves is surprisingly good, he can be slow as he is tall, but his ball winning and ability to play all kind of roles is impressive, he was a great medium forw. great mid at times
Carmichael was amazing at the champs, he has the mindset to be a very good player
XT Cumming Dov late teens, XT had a good finals series is a good player but didnt impact as much at the champs, Cumming also has a good resume at sanfl u18s level, but was spotty at the champs as a forw, Dov is good kindve like kako but i thought kako was a bit overrated in the draft
Coulson was very impressive in the midfield for the allies, no traits is ridiculous
Onley had a better than expected champs, showed some speed for a big man, i have him here as i dont think he is first round worthy, but he is in that next best group
Farrow wasnt very good at the champs, got a lot of touches from kick ins, his kicking wasnt very good either and didnt move great, he looks draftable, but for me i wouldnt draft him.
Sweid played well, i agree he is lkely to be stuck as a hhf where his best position is midfield, he could go undrafted or later
Wes Walley looks a good prospect, but he did wilt under the pressure of his draft year, i think wce will pick him up and roll the dice hoping it was just a bad year
Phillipou and O Taylor are similar to Hunter Holmes running and gunning and not much else, Holmes was the only 1 to play champs so the other 2 are behind him imo

Interesting that you have Banfield, Evans and Walley rated ahead Taylah Williams.
Some pundits have Taylah Williams as the 2nd best player out of WA behind Farrow.
Tylah Williams I will say wce will draft, he is a good running forw/hhf option

look that WA Team was bad, some guys like Cassidy, Hart and Montgomery weren't picked, others were played in bad positions like Curtin and Kelly, it was a shitshow at WA, they seem to have no connect between u16s and u18s, just amateurish imo by the people running their u18s program imo
 
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Sharp and Duursma i have in that elite grouping, i think contested ball winning is a more valuable skill, i think Duursma might be stuck playing wing and hbf at the next level, he is a good kick, but can have brain fades in d50, Sharp is incredible in close and is a good kick in congestion for him to consistently kick well under the pressure he is in is incredible, great hands and can feed runners, tough, I just think Sharp will be a better AFL Footballer, I think Duursma has great traits and Sharp has a great all round game
Lindsay's kicking under pressure is elite, reminds me of Karl Amon and im a fan of how he plays
Schubert is a very talented kpf, its that simple
Greeves is surprisingly good, he can be slow as he is tall, but his ball winning and ability to play all kind of roles is impressive, he was a great medium forw. great mid af times
Carmichael was amazing at the champs, he has the mindset to be a very good player
XT Cumming Dov late teens, XT had a good finals series is a good player but didnt impact as mucb at the champs, Cumming also has a good resume at sanfl u18s level, but was spotty at the champs as a forw, Dov is good kindve like kako but i thought kako was a bit overrated in the draft
Coulson was very impressive in the midfield fod the allies, no traits is ridiculous
Onley had a better than expected champs, showed some speed for a big man, i have him ggere as i dont think he is first round worthy, but he is in that next best group
Farrow wasnt very good af the champs, got a lot of touches from kick ins, his licking wasnt very good either and didnt move great, he looks draftable, but for me i wouldnt draft him.
Sweid played well, i agree he is lkely to be stuck as a hhf where his best position is midfield, he could go undrafted or later
Wes Walley looks a good prospect, but he did wilt under the pressure of his draft year, i think wce will pick him up and roll the dice hoping it was just a bad year
Phillipou and O Taylor are similar to Hunter Holmes running and gunning and not much else, Holmes was the only 1 to play champs so the other 2 are behind him imo


Tylah Williams I will say wce will draft, he is a good running forw/hhf option

look that WA Team was bad, some guys like Cassidy, Hart and Montgomery weren't picked, others were played in bad positions like Curtin and Kelly, it was a shitshow at WA, they seem to have no connect between u16s and u18s, just amateurish imo by the people running their u18s program imo
It seems like you value champs and champs performances extremely highly for other guys who by all other metrics are fantastic players would fantastic stats, like Cumming for example, but then you have Robey at 7? Where’s the line for you on that split? And by extension do you think if he played even average at champs that he’d be number 1 or 2 in your book?
 
It seems like you value champs and champs performances extremely highly for other guys who by all other metrics are fantastic players would fantastic stats, like Cumming for example, but then you have Robey at 7? Where’s the line for you on that split? And by extension do you think if he played even average at champs that he’d be number 1 or 2 in your book?
Some players don't play champs because of injury or not being available at the time for whatever reason, some are just overlooked, if Robey had a bad champs then it would reflect badly if he had a good champs it would increase his stocks obviously, but outside of the champs he has looked very good, the others not so much other than their running ability or general ball winning at low level leagues which you would expect a draft worthy player to have at the bare minimum those abilities.

The champs is the only AFL Standard test these players get from my pov, dominating against low tier opponents can only show you so much at league level, Robey looks good against lower tier opponents it's why he isn't top 5 for me, but he's good enough to go top 10 for me on assuming he can handle the heat.
 
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Here's is my first real top 50 + 6 for this year's draft, better late than never, warning differing opinions may offend, so take a deep breath and enjoy

1. Dyson Sharp
2. Willem Duursma
3. Zeke Uwland (gc)
4. Dylan Patterson (gc)
5. Aidan Schubert
6. Harry Dean (carl)
7. Sullivan Robey
8. Cooper Duff-Tytler
9. Josh Lindsay
10. Oliver Greeves
11. Sam Grlj
12. Dan Annable (bris)
13. Mitch Marsh
14. Lachlan Carmichael (syd)
15. Beau Addinsall (gc)
16. Blake Thredgold
17. Xavier Taylor
18. Sam Cumming
19. Lachy Dovaston
20. Jesse Mellor (geel)
21. Koby Coulson (gc)
22. Hugo Mikunda
23. Harley Barker
24. Cam Nairn
25. Riley Onley
26. Jacob Farrow
27. Noah Hibbins-Hargreaves
28. Max King (syd)
29. Adam Sweid (ess)
30. Felix Kneipp
31. Charlie Banfield (wce)
32. Avery Thomas
33. Hunter Holmes
34. Koby Evans (wce)
35. Wes Walley (wce)
36. Hussein El Achkar (ess)
37. Archie Ludowyke
38. Matt LeRay
39. Zac McCarthy (coll)
40. Louis Kellaway (rich)
41. Taj Murray
42. Louis Emmett
43. Cody Curtin
44. Thomas McGuane
45. Jevan Phillipou
46. Oskar Taylor
47. Jack Miller
48. Talor Byrne
49. Sam Ainsworth
50. Latrelle Sumner-Pickett
51. Blake Oudshoorn-Bennier
52. Blake Kelly
53. Fred Rodriguez
54. Sam Swaddling
55. Tairon Ah-Mu
56. Liam Hetherton

These are 56 players I think will be drafted...

Thanks Davo, if things fell that way it would definitely shake things up.

For what its worth I believe Sharp deserves to be No 1 over Duursma, and like yourself I also rate Thredgold and Carmichael a lot higher than others. From a St Kilda perspective if the draft fell this way, I can see us trading in and grabbing 1 or 2 players they rate and Fincher as a rookie. It would be a very good and unexpected draft for us....
 
Thanks Davo, if things fell that way it would definitely shake things up.

For what its worth I believe Sharp deserves to be No 1 over Duursma, and like yourself I also rate Thredgold and Carmichael a lot higher than others. From a St Kilda perspective if the draft fell this way, I can see us trading in and grabbing 1 or 2 players they rate and Fincher as a rookie. It would be a very good and unexpected draft for us....
They are my rankings, a phantom draft would be different as clubs have different needs and their own ranking system.

I believe guys like Fincher, Ison, T.Williams, Whan ect will be at least rookied if not late bid on...
 
I think he will be rookied or maybe a late bid if I had to guess, he has some ability, but its not all quite put together.
Would love that to be the case but I can't see him lasting past the mid 30s personally. He was excellent in the back end of the season.

Feel like Tylah Williams could be another that goes earlier than expected, has all the traits you'd want in a modern half forward.
 
I thought I better watch Schubert again after these top 5 prognostications. So, I checked out his really good 4 goal 14 mark game. I also watched the SA VM highlights of him. My goodness, the amout of non completed marks in contested situations was over double figures. The awkward kicking and regular fumbling a highlight too.

If this bloke is top 5 worthy it must be one of the worst drafts in history.
 

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I thought I better watch Schubert again after these top 5 prognostications. So, I checked out his really good 4 goal 14 mark game. I also watched the SA VM highlights of him. My goodness, the amout of non completed marks in contested situations was over double figures. The awkward kicking and regular fumbling a highlight too.

If this bloke is top 5 worthy it must be one of the worst drafts in history.
Go away pmbangers
 
Absolute steal from 25 onwards. Getting no respect... or not enough at the moment
Richmond's pick #38 should come in 5-6 spots and i would be very surprised if we didnt bid on him at that selection
Wouldnt surprise me if we bid on both Uwland & Patterson if west coast didnt to see if they could still match
 
Richmond's pick #38 should come in 5-6 spots and i would be very surprised if we didnt bid on him at that selection
Wouldnt surprise me if we bid on both Uwland & Patterson if west coast didnt to see if they could still match

I have this forlorn hope that there are no bids before our first pick (31-probably 25/26 at draft time), and we live bid on him.
In my fantasy world it's Jai Murray, and if that is matched it's Thredgold.

That bid would test their resolve, especially if Adinsall has been bid on already.
 
Here's is my first real top 50 + 6 for this year's draft, better late than never, warning differing opinions may offend, so take a deep breath and enjoy

1. Dyson Sharp
2. Willem Duursma
3. Zeke Uwland (gc)
4. Dylan Patterson (gc)
5. Aidan Schubert
6. Harry Dean (carl)
7. Sullivan Robey
8. Cooper Duff-Tytler
9. Josh Lindsay
10. Oliver Greeves
11. Sam Grlj
12. Dan Annable (bris)
13. Mitch Marsh
14. Lachlan Carmichael (syd)
15. Beau Addinsall (gc)
16. Blake Thredgold
17. Xavier Taylor
18. Sam Cumming
19. Lachy Dovaston
20. Jesse Mellor (geel)
21. Koby Coulson (gc)
22. Hugo Mikunda
23. Harley Barker
24. Cam Nairn
25. Riley Onley
26. Jacob Farrow
27. Noah Hibbins-Hargreaves
28. Max King (syd)
29. Adam Sweid (ess)
30. Felix Kneipp
31. Charlie Banfield (wce)
32. Avery Thomas
33. Hunter Holmes
34. Koby Evans (wce)
35. Wes Walley (wce)
36. Hussein El Achkar (ess)
37. Archie Ludowyke
38. Matt LeRay
39. Zac McCarthy (coll)
40. Louis Kellaway (rich)
41. Taj Murray
42. Louis Emmett
43. Cody Curtin
44. Thomas McGuane
45. Jevan Phillipou
46. Oskar Taylor
47. Jack Miller
48. Talor Byrne
49. Sam Ainsworth
50. Latrelle Sumner-Pickett
51. Blake Oudshoorn-Bennier
52. Blake Kelly
53. Fred Rodriguez
54. Sam Swaddling
55. Tairon Ah-Mu
56. Liam Hetherton

These are 56 players I think will be drafted...
Good work 👍

Latrelle Sumner-Pickett at 50. I have some dees mates that want to pick him at 11 😆

Talking best small fwds, Is he that far off Dovaston?

Cheers
 

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Good work 👍

Latrelle Sumner-Pickett at 50. I have some dees mates that want to pick him at 11 😆

Talking best small fwds, Is he that far off Dovaston?

Cheers
Pickett is more dynamic as a small forw, he has those Charlie Cameron moments, but he plays in one of the least competitive junior comps and didn't play champs footy, so more of a risk, which is why I have him lower.
 
They are my rankings, a phantom draft would be different as clubs have different needs and their own ranking system.

I believe guys like Fincher, Ison, T.Williams, Whan ect will be at least rookied if not late bid on...

Im interested on felix kneipp. Do you really think he will bolt and go in the ND?
 
Pickett is more dynamic as a small forw, he has those Charlie Cameron moments, but he plays in one of the least competitive junior comps and didn't play champs footy, so more of a risk, which is why I have him lower.

One of the least competitive? He didn’t even play junior football. It doesn’t get less competitive than that.
 

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