The link in Dave's post (#2,904) works.I can't breach the HS paywall anymore... it's so annoying these click bait titles...
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The link in Dave's post (#2,904) works.I can't breach the HS paywall anymore... it's so annoying these click bait titles...
Righteo, time to get serious for a second.
**** this ****. **** it to hell.
I don't particularly like Beams as a person, for reasons I am not going into. I certainly was not thrilled with the trade, and I wish we never did it, but its done. I think there were sentimental, and ego reasons behind it, that we need to stamp out if we are being serious.
Precisely none of that makes me want to be less of a human being about **** than I should be though, nor would give me a free pass to dance round a bonfire throwing kero and laughing as the flames spread in whatever direction they may.
In the end, its kind of binary here. Option A, all this **** is ********. In which case, all the stuff posted in here is just egregious offensive bollocks.
Option B, there is substance behind it. In which case, people are posting a lot of **** that seems to be embracing, or dare I say, rejoicing in that, which means lets be clear embracing or rejoicing in a lot of suffering.
I have a couple of addictions that Ive fought long and hard, one bad for my body, one for my soul. I know what its like to be so dark and empty inside you fill that with **** thats not good for you. Its generally not something associated with being in a great place in life. So I'm not wishing that **** on my worst enemy, wheter its Beams, who at worst I'm mildly displeased with, or someone else. And I'm definitely not going around, posting crap, wondering who it is, playing detective or guessing or whatever the **** this is games, pointing with mock concern or prurient interest, and bathing in it like battery acid.
think people. Think. We are better than this. I know it.
I like how you think that people might have more generous spirits than they do, but I think that the battle is lost. Ponies have won the day. People find it far too pleasing to locate the point of vulnerability in their fellow humans and to stick their fingers in it.
Colic!Righteo, time to get serious for a second.
**** this ****. **** it to hell.
I don't particularly like Beams as a person, for reasons I am not going into. I certainly was not thrilled with the trade, and I wish we never did it, but its done. I think there were sentimental, and ego reasons behind it, that we need to stamp out if we are being serious.
Precisely none of that makes me want to be less of a human being about **** than I should be though, nor would give me a free pass to dance round a bonfire throwing kero and laughing as the flames spread in whatever direction they may.
In the end, its kind of binary here. Option A, all this **** is ********. In which case, all the stuff posted in here is just egregious offensive bollocks.
Option B, there is substance behind it. In which case, people are posting a lot of **** that seems to be embracing, or dare I say, rejoicing in that, which means lets be clear embracing or rejoicing in a lot of suffering.
I have a couple of addictions that Ive fought long and hard, one bad for my body, one for my soul. I know what its like to be so dark and empty inside you fill that with **** thats not good for you. Its generally not something associated with being in a great place in life. So I'm not wishing that **** on my worst enemy, wheter its Beams, who at worst I'm mildly displeased with, or someone else. And I'm definitely not going around, posting crap, wondering who it is, playing detective or guessing or whatever the **** this is games, pointing with mock concern or prurient interest, and bathing in it like battery acid.
think people. Think. We are better than this. I know it.
Nice and clever use of a pejorative.I will leave this to the tough-skinned and club loyalists to thrust and parry over. Whatever is said against or in defence, the bottom line is that he will not contribute to a final's campaign this year, and the rest of it's all just based around idle chatter or blind loyalty, and I not sure where I sit between the two.
Yes that’s correct.So Beams has a hip injury that he’s carried through his teenage years, a well known issue that would require surgery at some point...yet we still give away a first round pick for him?!?!
Is it normal/acceptablefor a ‘Leading Councellor’ in a medical field to provide information like this? I find it astonishing that this woman would put her name and face to this type of article.
I have no idea what the harm is. There may be none. I don’t think that’s the point though.She hasn’t named anyone so what’s the harm.
Maybe the AFL could have a long, hard look at ceasing its association with the gambling industry - inc banning all the nauseating ads for gambling, all clubs could stop having pokies etc etc - the hypocrisy around this issue is stunningThe link between gambling and depression in AFL players/coaches is in the open now. It is not going away. David Swartz has done a great job offering support to individuals but it requires a systematic approach by the AFL and Clubs and they are starting to step up. I think that is a good thing. In terms of who those individuals are remains speculation but 120 players is a lot of lives who are potentially being destroyed. Gambling is not very private after a while and is a world full of gossip and dubious creatures.
I hope the Clubs can respond and help these people with their addictions. Some will not respond but grooming needs to be stopped.
Underrated post. Lol!"One player - let's call him Dayne B. - No sorry, that's too obvious, let's just call him D. Beams...."
FTR, she doesn't have any actual medical qualifications. Her only academic qualification is a "Bachelor of Counselling from the University of New England" - Pretty much a mickey mouse degree from a mickey mouse university.Is it normal/acceptablefor a ‘Leading Councellor’ in a medical field to provide information like this? ...
Was 50/50 on those rumors buzzing around, mainly the size of the gambling (beams had always loved a punt, especially in the early days at the pies)
After all these reports looks like it’s 100%
Brissy sold us a washed up, flawed version of beams
Got fleeced
I have no idea what the harm is. There may be none. I don’t think that’s the point though.
I’m trying to get my head around the thought process that would lead a counsellor to reveal that two of her patients have each lost a million dollars and that one is from a VIC club and one is from an interstate club. Tbh, I don’t believe that article as written. I think it’s self-serving on most levels by those involved.
I have no idea what the harm is. There may be none. I don’t think that’s the point though.
I’m trying to get my head around the thought process that would lead a counsellor to reveal that two of her patients have each lost a million dollars and that one is from a VIC club and one is from an interstate club. Tbh, I don’t believe that article as written. I think it’s self-serving on most levels by those involved.
The AFLPA have given her a little back hander in their statement...oh and also Robbo. Nice!I have no idea what the harm is. There may be none. I don’t think that’s the point though.
I’m trying to get my head around the thought process that would lead a counsellor to reveal that two of her patients have each lost a million dollars and that one is from a VIC club and one is from an interstate club. Tbh, I don’t believe that article as written. I think it’s self-serving on most levels by those involved.
Agree. This is shameless self promotion. See below for Aflpa response to the article. Marvellous whack on Robbo at the end.
Good old Robbo bashing, eh? Saves thinking.
1)Beames has seen over 50 footballers. Given that the AFLPA don't refer players to her, it would be fair to say they don't like what the AFLPA are serving them. There are examples given in the story of the failures of the AFLPA experts. You appear to believe that the mere possession of a degree qualifies you as an undeniable expert (vis a vis the clueless muppets in the medical dept at the Collingwood football club).
2)She and her husband describe the AFLPA program as pathetic. The AFLPA response is typical. Attack the person, and not the issue.