Health Death

[Catfish Alley]

As in disease? Nothing. It's natural. Just sucks when it's you or someone you love.

 

[raskolnikov]

My dog is nine and every day I dread losing him. He's been my best mate for the last nine years.I fear his death more than my own.

 

[skilts]

What matters is not how big your will is or what bullshit the history books say, what matters is your legacy. Einstein pandered and lied on behalf of war mongers. War mongers who war because its business. When he was no longer able to be the smartest man on earth he tried save his soul with philosophy. But there was no saving the millions of deaths he was involved in.

Their legacy means nothing to the dead.

 

[craigos]

Death or glory, it’s all the same,
Death or glory, the price of fame,
Death or glory, I’m in the game of,
Death or glory, a one way train.

Once your brain is starved of oxygen it dies, we have scientific proof of this through people who have survived trauma. When you die I assume it'll be like the nothingness period of sleep where you do not dream. You (your body) will be stuck in this perpetual cycle until your body and (what's left of) mind are eaten away at by maggots to whom which you shall become and thus repeat the cycle of death every day until your little maggot body dies and is eaten by ants and etc etc until you're essentially a piece of dirt.

Life's a selfish thing.

 

[M Malice]

Death or glory, it’s all the same,
Death or glory, the price of fame,
Death or glory, I’m in the game of,
Death or glory, a one way train.

Once your brain is starved of oxygen it dies, we have scientific proof of this through people who have survived trauma. When you die I assume it'll be like the nothingness period of sleep where you do not dream. You (your body) will be stuck in this perpetual cycle until your body and (what's left of) mind are eaten away at by maggots to whom which you shall become and thus repeat the cycle of death every day until your little maggot body dies and is eaten by ants and etc etc until you're essentially a piece of dirt.

Life's a selfish thing.

i am bypassing all that and going the cremation option. although they must make sure i am dead, i have opted for the zombie shot to the head solution just to make sure.

 

[volcboy]

As a buddhist, I believe in reincarnation. However, the common view of reincarnation (similar to 'going to sleep' before 'waking up' as a new being') is far from what I have come to understand reincarnation to be.

The most disturbing thing about death is how removed most people in Western society have become from it, and therefore how much they fear it and allow it to control their lives. In Western societies, the two greatest examples of this are how we hide away our aged and old people in homes or hospitals without visiting or including them in society, and how we don't take personal responsibility for killing the animals we eat. This fear of death manifests itself in an obsession with youth and physical appearance, and in an ever spiralling denial throughout our lives that this body we inhabit, the one we are so attached to, will one day be a corpse. We never consider our own death which, in fact, we should deeply consider every day if we are to deprive it of its hold on our lives.

One of the most profound statements on death I have read was written by Michel de Montaigne, a 16th century philosopher;

"To begin depriving death of its greatest advantage over us, let us adopt a way clean contrary to that common one; let us deprive death of its strangeness, let us frequent it, let us get used to it; let us have nothing more often in mind than death... We do not know where death awaits us: so let us wait for it everywhere. To practice death is to practice freedom. A man who has learned how to die has unlearned how to be a slave."

 

[exe ex machina]

As a buddhist, I believe in reincarnation. However, the common view of reincarnation (similar to 'going to sleep' before 'waking up' as a new being') is far from what I have come to understand reincarnation to be.

The most disturbing thing about death is how removed most people in Western society have become from it, and therefore how much they fear it and allow it to control their lives. In Western societies, the two greatest examples of this are how we hide away our aged and old people in homes or hospitals without visiting or including them in society, and how we don't take personal responsibility for killing the animals we eat. This fear of death manifests itself in an obsession with youth and physical appearance, and in an ever spiralling denial throughout our lives that this body we inhabit, the one we are so attached to, will one day be a corpse. We never consider our own death which, in fact, we should deeply consider every day if we are to deprive it of its hold on our lives.

One of the most profound statements on death I have read was written by Michel de Montaigne, a 16th century philosopher;

"To begin depriving death of its greatest advantage over us, let us adopt a way clean contrary to that common one; let us deprive death of its strangeness, let us frequent it, let us get used to it; let us have nothing more often in mind than death... We do not know where death awaits us: so let us wait for it everywhere. To practice death is to practice freedom. A man who has learned how to die has unlearned how to be a slave."

Excellent contribution

This is something I've thought about too....not just death, but pain, suffering, negativity, adversity....people think life is all about the good stuff only. So wrong. Humans should embrace and face the bad as equally.

 

[little graham]

Their legacy means nothing to the dead.

And that my friend is why you simply don't die if you build real legacy.

 

[little graham]

One of the most profound statements on death I have read was written by Michel de Montaigne, a 16th century philosopher;

"To begin depriving death of its greatest advantage over us, let us adopt a way clean contrary to that common one; let us deprive death of its strangeness, let us frequent it, let us get used to it; let us have nothing more often in mind than death... We do not know where death awaits us: so let us wait for it everywhere. To practice death is to practice freedom. A man who has learned how to die has unlearned how to be a slave."

I have been intimately involved with a few people during the process of their death. It's actually a beautiful thing. Two were very lonely men, with little family and littler connection with anyone. Both had done some things when they were younger, they were afraid was waiting for them on the other side. In fact i have known about 12 people very well, who are not here today and each ones views on everything changed the moment the process of death begun. All the bullshit fell away, there was only truth left.

Death is what it is.

 

[skilts]

And that my friend is why you simply don't die if you build real legacy.

I have some devastating news for you.

 

[Marklar_33]

I'm not scared to die, I'm a little bit scared of what comes after.

Do I get the gold chariot?
Do I float through the ceiling?
Do I divide and pull apart?

 

[Catfish Alley]

Thinking horrible things happening to children is always the parents fault is terrible. Somebody who always likes talking about the plight of aboriginal Australians should know better.

 

[Vaple]

I don't understand why people debate this topic so much. If there is an afterlife we will not know for sure until we die and being "right" is irrelevant, and if there isn't you have wasted precious time arguing and speculating about nothing.

It would be a better use of your time discussing reality tv because atleast we'll reach a conclusion.

 

[Catfish Alley]

A discussion on death is really a discussion about life in a way. I don't think philosophy is a waste of time.

 

[Procrastinator35]

I don't understand why people debate this topic so much. If there is an afterlife we will not know for sure until we die and being "right" is irrelevant, and if there isn't you have wasted precious time arguing and speculating about nothing.

It would be a better use of your time discussing reality tv because at least we'll reach a conclusion.

So you're comparing unfavorably, one of life's great 'mystery's & journey's', to the epitome of cultural boredom.

Something so real, so visceral, so transcendent, which can't be faked....To a please like me/don't hate me, contrived, steaming pile of phony-baloney horse-shit.

Yep....Well done.

 

[Gough]

A discussion on death is really a discussion about life in a way. I don't think philosophy is a waste of time.

One of my big bugbears is that philosophy is rarely taught in schools, to teach kids to think about thinking is so important imo.

 

[Gosha]

Every single one of us have experienced what it's like to be dead. You experienced it before you were born.

 

[M Malice]

One of my big bugbears is that philosophy is rarely taught in schools, to teach kids to think about thinking is so important imo.

agree. the school my 3 grand children go to actually have philosophy sessions every week for every student.
from their mission statement- philosophy has been integrated into the school curriculum, to develop the thinking skills and confidence of our students.
my son and wife did a lot of research looking for a particular style of education, the school they chose is an inner city suburb state primary school, they got out of the private religious school system as their was too much brainwashing/follow the leader type education going on.

 

[Procrastinator35]

To be fair, the Big Brother house is like Death.

LOL.

Death is too colorful a metaphor....More like a half-way house for souls trapped in limbo....The inauthentic simulacra.

One of my big bugbears is that philosophy is rarely taught in schools, to teach kids to think about thinking is so important imo.

Yep....Epistemology most especially.

How on earth are the foundations for all our knowledge not mandatory?

 

[exe ex machina]

LOL.

Death is too colorful a metaphor....More like a half-way house for souls trapped in limbo....The inauthentic simulacra.



Yep....Epistemology most especially.

How on earth are the foundations for all our knowledge not mandatory?

I guess "The Bachelor" would be the Islamic simulacrum of Heaven.....minus the virginity.

 

[Procrastinator35]

I guess "The Bachelor" would be the Islamic simulacrum of Heaven.....minus the virginity.

Now you're approaching the realm of the living-dead. Alls they need is the ferry-man; their already fog-bound.

What on earth possesses people to go on those "shows" I'll never know....Their parents must be so proud!

 

[I Lost My Keays]

what happens after death is the thing that terrifies me

 

[The Lemon]

what happens after death is the thing that terrifies me

Nothing happens.

 

[Vaple]

A discussion on death is really a discussion about life in a way. I don't think philosophy is a waste of time.

Don't get me wrong, I loved studying philosophy at school and believe we should ponder these things... but arguing with others about something there is no definite answer is a waste.

People seem to be unable to accept that not everyone shares the same opinion. FWIW I believe we become just food for worms and nothing more, but if people want to believe in heaven, hell, interdimensional travel, reincarnation or whatever crap scientologists eat up its none of my business.

I don't care what other people's opinions are and they shouldn't care about mine. Whatever makes us happy and comfortable until that last gasp of air.

 

[exe ex machina]

Nothing happens.

Nothing can't happen. Only something can happen.