Review Dimma is the right man

[theflea]

Lloyd also thinks Hird HAS NOT overseen THE WORST leading of AN ENTIRE GROUP of young men in Australia's sporting history.

The EFC players love Hird too.

Next....

Wrong Lloyd mate.

 

[monstabud]

dimma is doing a awesome job and those that cant see what he is doing clearly know nothin about footy.
last year we played a certain style, we could come out this week and for the rest of the year and play that way again no probs. and finish in the 8. but will we do anything in the finals nooo!
to win a g/f you need players that can play anywhere and play different styles different roles and different positions, eg riewoldt not f/f, martin down back. its all about development so we are not a one trick pony.
if we lose every game this year i couldnt care less, providing we are giving our players more strings in their bows. we cant be one dimensional or we will just get flogged in finals like last year.
look at the hawks 10 different goal kickers 4 weeks in a row. their players can play multiple roles.
look at geelong, bartel taylor any of their players except hawkins can play anywhere. if they are getting pinned down in there positions then they can be moved around no issues. play multiple roles.
our rebuild is only half way there, dont delude yourselves. hardwick is doing the right thing even richo has come to terms with what is being done.
by dumping the coach now would send us back to 5 years again and if that happens because of people on here then the club can go n get *******.
we asked for no shortcuts and hardwick is not taking any, sacking him is taking a shortcut that wont do sht.

 

[Reckoner Tiger]

I've barely been around after this last loss, as I've been pretty devastated with the performances and with where we're at.

I still haven't made up my mind about Hardwick, or whether he should stay or go. I'm probably leaning towards the latter. But there is one thing I am sure of. There is something very, very wrong with our players which the coach can't be blamed for.

Having watched a lot of footy this year, I've noticed that more and more is scoring from turnovers becoming easily the most valuable source of goals.I watch every team that isn't Melbourne win the ball in space at CHF, win the ball in space on the wing, win the ball in space at the centre of the ground, and score a huge percentage of the time.

To me, without the statistics, we have been absolutely deplorable this season in this regard. Every time the ball turns over and we win it, I don't get excited, I don't expect anything, I just wait for the somehow overwhelming likelihood that we won't score. We'll over handball and let the ball spill out or get caught with it. We'll choose the wrong option. We'll slow it down instead. We'll kick to the wrong forward. We'll miss the free player. Or we'll butcher the running shot. It has astounded me as from at least 2012, if we have been anything, we have always been a highly skillful side that hurts teams on the break, that links up well, makes good decisions and scores from turnovers.

It hasn't been there this season, and its baffling. Its down to the players as this isn't something that the coaches take responsibility for. This isn't something that is coached or needs to be coached. This is something that Geelong has built a dynasty around through sheer professionalism. Execute the skills. Take your chances when they are there. Make the right decision. Execute and execute and execute.

Our players aren't doing this and its obvious they are stunningly out of form. I don't know why they are, but this falls at their feet. Until out players are doing this again, and what our results end up being when that happens, will probably decide my view on Dimma.

 

[Boston tiger]

dimma is doing a awesome job and those that cant see what he is doing clearly know nothin about footy.
last year we played a certain style, we could come out this week and for the rest of the year and play that way again no probs. and finish in the 8. but will we do anything in the finals nooo!
to win a g/f you need players that can play anywhere and play different styles different roles and different positions, eg riewoldt not f/f, martin down back. its all about development so we are not a one trick pony.
if we lose every game this year i couldnt care less, providing we are giving our players more strings in their bows. we cant be one dimensional or we will just get flogged in finals like last year.
look at the hawks 10 different goal kickers 4 weeks in a row. their players can play multiple roles.
look at geelong, bartel taylor any of their players except hawkins can play anywhere. if they are getting pinned down in there positions then they can be moved around no issues. play multiple roles.
our rebuild is only half way there, dont delude yourselves. hardwick is doing the right thing even richo has come to terms with what is being done.
by dumping the coach now would send us back to 5 years again and if that happens because of people on here then the club can go n get *******.
we asked for no shortcuts and hardwick is not taking any, sacking him is taking a shortcut that wont do sht.

Great and I hope you are right. My worry is if course that a lot of our players can have all the strings and all the experience but just aren't good enough.
Do great coaches make hard decisions that look ludicrous at the time. Or do they just keep developing what they have because of time and emotion invested in them.

I really don't know if Dimma is great or not I just worry when poorly skilled players keep getting plum jobs and even win best and fairest at this club.

 

[living_in_syd]

Too much mates mate with the boys

Vickers has his dad working here wtf

 

[monstabud]

Great and I hope you are right. My worry is if course that a lot of our players can have all the strings and all the experience but just aren't good enough.
Do great coaches make hard decisions that look ludicrous at the time. Or do they just keep developing what they have because of time and emotion invested in them.

I really don't know if Dimma is great or not I just worry when poorly skilled players keep getting plum jobs and even win best and fairest at this club.

dimma knows what he is doing, he has come from successful clubs and understands what it takes.
bomber went through hell when he was coaching the cats, people didnt understand what he was doing.
clarkson also went thru hell for the same reason.
malthouse the same at the pies and now at carlton.
we need to stick fat and let him do his work, im sure the players that dont play appropriately will be gone in the near future. good things take time.

 

[captain cotch 9]

Too much mates mate with the boys

Vickers has his dad working here wtf

He dad was there before he was

 

[Rodney Dangerfield]

Lol
Old mate Ricky Petterd doesn't even have to play to get slayed.
That's talent!

 

[sregit]

You mean like Port? We have the talent on the list. We just aren't giving them a crack. He took a short cut. We got to a final doing it. Now we are falling back again because most of our players had no upside. It's the same shit every coach we have. They panic to save their job.

The difference this time is the coach might have realised he's made a mistake (based on last weeks team selection) and might rectify it. As I said in my first post he has a bloody long time to do it.

Come on Dimma, be the hero that FINISHES a RFC rebuild.

Spot on here Tigs. Richmond's coaches for the last 15 years have started rebuilds and then panicked when the job was half done and reverted to playing older more experience players but few with upside. They didn't have the courage in tough times.

Even though we made a final last year the club needs to play younger players and continue to blood. We drafted for need early in the rebuild, however, we have overdone it and not added much quality to the list. Players like Newman, King and Stephenson should have been thanked and let go. It is now time for Dimma to re evaluate the list, show some courage and back the youngsters. Players brought in from other clubs must now be A grade only. Players like Goddard are the quality we need, not Grigg or Thomas. Players who have been at the club > 5 years like Titch Edwards who are not delivering consistent football should be traded off. Players like Vickery and Griffiths must stand up or be replaced.

Shows some balls Dimma and have the COURAGE to finish the job!

 

[Sol23]

dimma is doing a awesome job and those that cant see what he is doing clearly know nothin about footy.
last year we played a certain style, we could come out this week and for the rest of the year and play that way again no probs. and finish in the 8. but will we do anything in the finals nooo!
to win a g/f you need players that can play anywhere and play different styles different roles and different positions, eg riewoldt not f/f, martin down back. its all about development so we are not a one trick pony.
if we lose every game this year i couldnt care less, providing we are giving our players more strings in their bows. we cant be one dimensional or we will just get flogged in finals like last year.
look at the hawks 10 different goal kickers 4 weeks in a row. their players can play multiple roles.
look at geelong, bartel taylor any of their players except hawkins can play anywhere. if they are getting pinned down in there positions then they can be moved around no issues. play multiple roles.
our rebuild is only half way there, dont delude yourselves. hardwick is doing the right thing even richo has come to terms with what is being done.
by dumping the coach now would send us back to 5 years again and if that happens because of people on here then the club can go n get *******.
we asked for no shortcuts and hardwick is not taking any, sacking him is taking a shortcut that wont do sht.

Close but oh so far!!
Dimma won't b taking this club to the next flag!! Its not a
Shortcut if he's not the right man, he has taken us as far as he can, but we need a change at seasons end!!!

 

[monstabud]

Close but oh so far!!
Dimma won't b taking this club to the next flag!! Its not a
Shortcut if he's not the right man, he has taken us as far as he can, but we need a change at seasons end!!!

if we change him at years end then ill never ever get a membership again....
they can start another 5 year plan without me. ill save my 1000+ dollars on membership.

 

[avengers]

Someone like Thomas needed to the club thing and Hit Macafer off the ball knocking him out. Someone needed to make a statement. Cotchin is our captain you protect him by whatever it takes.

would of been hard to hit him and knock him out with out knocking out trent as well with his arms completely wrapped around him the whole night! but I agree! no protection for him! I know its a different time but i think some of our players need to watch how the coach played and take a bit of him into their next game!
I believe dimma is the right man for the job! Add maric, rance and lids makes us an instantly better team! would also love to see knights fit because the games he played last year he gave us something on our half forward line which is something i think we are missing at the moment!

 

[aislegi]

For everyone that thinks Dimma should get the sack should get a grip.
The coach has minimal influence on game day.
He loves this club as much as we all do and I'm 100% confident he is the right man.
The players love playing for him. Watch the interview with Lloyd and see the respect he has for Dimma.
Our club is renown for sacking coaches when things go wrong.
In my years of being a Richmond supporter and member of 20 years our administration is finally united from the board and president to the Benny Gale and Dimma.
We have improved every year for the last four. When was the last time that happened at Richmond?
The completion is as close as it has been with the emergence of GC, GWS and the Bulldogs.
If your 10% off on game day, most likely you will lose.
WCE showed last year how much injurys can hurt.
We need more class in the starting 22 and more depth and that will come.

Here's the problem. Back in 2008, Hawthorn and Geelong were the top sides and Richmond were out of the eight. Fast-forward six years, Hawthorn and Geelong are the top sides and Richmond are out of the eight. Can you see why it doesn't feel like anything has changed?

 

[avengers]

Even though the season is not yet a write off, it may be time for some short term pain in exchange for some long term gain.
Newman, King, Grigg may have to make way, Vickery, Grimes & Ellis may have to spend time in the twos, all have the talent to bounce back & Arnot, McDonough, McBean, Lloyd, Gordon, Lennon etc entrench themselves in the side.
It's evolution not revolution, and let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

I think he is doing this! But he can't just throw them all in at once! kings been dropped, newy and grigg could be next! can't see ty playing this week if he was subbed of injured!
he has brought in flash gordon and Lloyd when they have been ready and they have both played well! Lennon and Mcbean have had injuries hence they haven't come in yet! Arnot came in also and contributed which puts even more pressure on newy, grigg and others! i think we will probably see McDonough come in this week as well! So i believe dimma is doing the right thing and having some patience slowly adding in guys that "earning their stripes" in the twos! which i like to see! I don't like throwing young players straight in the deep end eg ty vickery

 

[monstabud]

Here's the problem. Back in 2008, Hawthorn and Geelong were the top sides and Richmond were out of the eight. Fast-forward six years, Hawthorn and Geelong are the top sides and Richmond are out of the eight. Can you see why it doesn't feel like anything has changed?

back in 2000 when bomber started 1st year finished 5th, then 2001 12th, 2002 9th, 2003 12th, 2004 finals, 2005 finals 2006 finals and so on.

 

[monstabud]

Here's the problem. Back in 2008, Hawthorn and Geelong were the top sides and Richmond were out of the eight. Fast-forward six years, Hawthorn and Geelong are the top sides and Richmond are out of the eight. Can you see why it doesn't feel like anything has changed?

clarko joined 2004, hawks finished 14th, 2005 14th, 2006 11th, 2007 5th, 2008 premiers, 2009 9th, 2010 7th

 

[TiggerMan22]

clarko joined 2004, hawks finished 14th, 2005 14th, 2006 11th, 2007 5th, 2008 premiers, 2009 9th, 2010 7th

Clarkson: 14th 14th 11th 5th Premiers
Hardwick: 15th 11th 11th 5th ????????
Guess we win the flag this year.

 

[Madtiger2006]

I really like him but he overdid it picking up recycled players. Should not have picked up Petterd, Thomas and Adams. Should have gone for a couple more quicks and should have made use of the extra spot or two on the senior list with these quicks.

 

[MightyTiger]

Lloyd also thinks Hird HAS NOT overseen THE WORST leading of AN ENTIRE GROUP of young men in Australia's sporting history.

The EFC players love Hird too.

Next....

 

[This Is Anfield]

Something needs clarifying, reading these boards recently it appears that we have found ourselves with a list of recycled hacks, supposed guns who aren't & a whole host of C grade list cloggers!
I put it to you then, that any coach who managed a 15/7 season with this mess must be a genius of a coach!
Well done Dimma.

 

[tigs2010]

Something needs clarifying, reading these boards recently it appears that we have found ourselves with a list of recycled hacks, supposed guns who aren't & a whole host of C grade list cloggers!
I put it to you then, that any coach who managed a 15/7 season with this mess must be a genius of a coach!
Well done Dimma.

You realise a couple of things right?

a) Some have gone backwards.
b) We fricken added more!

 

[theflea]

I really like him but he overdid it picking up recycled players. Should not have picked up Petterd, Thomas and Adams. Should have gone for a couple more quicks and should have made use of the extra spot or two on the senior list with these quicks.

Who the eff is Adams? You have said this before and been corrected.

 

[This Is Anfield]

You realise a couple of things right?

a) Some have gone backwards.
b) We fricken added more!

Rookied a couple only - as I said earlier this could be an evolving year for Dimma as a coach.
And because we started slowly this year it shouldn't devalue the achievements of previous years.

 

[tigs2010]

Rookied a couple only - as I said earlier this could be an evolving year for Dimma as a coach.
And because we started slowly this year it shouldn't devalue the achievements of previous years.

Of course it doesn't devalue it. It was a great achievement getting there. I just want him to finish this rebuild off properly. Stop playing crap players.

Firstly we've added C-graders into the team. I counted 12 plus 2 playing like one. Some can't be helped due to necessity of position (Hampson/Grimes). Injuries have forced our hand there. Some are young and might become B-graders (Gordon/Lloyd/Griff/Astbury/Grimes etc). Some might even surprise and become an A-grader. Those are fine.

It's the guys who are C-graders now and going backwards quickly or haven't got the tools to become better that need to be replaced. I.e. they are what they are.

The others are the horrendously out of form B-graders who are playing like C or D-graders like Chaplin and Vickery. When Vicks played like a B-grader we won. When he plays like a D we are awful. Dilemma what to do with them. They should be trying to find form at VFL level but there isn't anyone to take their spots.

 

[aislegi]

We have improved every year for the last four. When was the last time that happened at Richmond?

Wrong question. Plenty of clubs improve from one year to the next to the next. Plenty of clubs turn this into a Grand Final appearance. Sometimes even a flag. The issue is why we can only ever climb to the middle of the table. It's the Wallace days all over again. A good 2008 and implosion in 2009.