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East Burwood coach Stuart Wynd. Picture: Davis Harrigan

East Burwood coach Stuart Wynd. Picture: Davis Harrigan
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EFL 2019: East Burwood scrapes past Forest Hill to remain undefeated
Toby Prime, Whitehorse Leader
June 24, 2019 9:30am

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Thought East Burwood would have it all its own way in Division 4 this year?
Perhaps it’s time think again.
Its past two wins would suggest it will have some competition in the flag race.
After a two-point win over Fairpark in Round 9, the Rams overcame Forest Hill by four points on Saturday to remain undefeated.
East Burwood kicked just one goal in the last quarter to hold on for a 11.6 (72) to 9.14 (68) victory at Forest Hill Reserve.


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Rams coach Stuart Wynd said “if Forest Hill had have kicked straight they would’ve probably won the game”.
East Burwood’s average winning margin in its first seven victories was 136 points and its percentage was 530.18, leading to suggestions last year’s preliminary finalist would be unbeatable in 2019.
But a closer inspection of the results highlights the gulf in the EFL’s lowest division.
East Burwood has bullied the bottom three sides — Kilsyth (213 points), Croydon North-Mt Lilydale Old Collegians (239) and Nunawading (211) — but competition against finals rivals over the past fortnight has been much tougher.
“It certainly shows us that we can be beaten and it’s not a one-horse race,” Wynd said.
“I never thought that in the first place. We knew some sides had improved and were going to be a challenge to us.”
Wynd said he had heard commentary that his side could go through the campaign undefeated.
But he pointed to Ringwood’s grand final upset last season in Division 3 to illustrate home-and-away form does not guarantee premiership success.



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“From the outside, that’s what a lot of people are saying … but it’s a long way from done. We’ve got a fair bit of work to do,” Wynd said.
“I’ve heard people say that no one is going to beat us, I’ve heard quite a few people say it but I don’t buy into that sort of stuff.
“I think the top four or five sides can beat each other. You’ve only got to have an off day or a few injuries that can really cost you.”
East Burwood led Forest Hill for most the game but the Zebras hit the front in the final quarter, only for Ryan Lepore to nail a set-shot in the final 60 seconds to secure victory.
The Rams lost Scott Davis before quarter-time after the midfielder was taken to hospital coughing up blood, but he is expected to recover for the Round 12 game against Kilsyth.
Brett Kay, Steve Perri and Lachie Gould were also missing but will return after this weekend’s bye.
“We lost probably close to 100 possessions with those three or four blokes, which really hurt us, but Forest Hill were really good,” Wynd said.
“They made it a scrappy game and they were pretty impressive. They probably blew a few chances and could have easily beaten us, that’s for sure.”
 
Silvan over Fairpark, didn't see that one coming.
Surrey Hills in the four, great turn around from a couple of years ago.
 
As i had mentioned before, Silvan absolutely should have beaten Coldstream when we played. I did notice though that Fairpark flew home in what i imagine would have been ordinary conditions, usually the sign of a good side.

Probably similar to East Burwoods lucky win against Forest Hill, although i think Silvan are a much better side than Forest Hill. Even though Forest Hill actually beat Coldy.
 
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Nunawading Sacking their coach? Amazing as he has coached a win at least. Tail Wagging the Dog once again.

From the HS

Axed Nunawading coach Paul Beven says he has been left gutted by the club’s decision to sack him mid-season.
Beven was at the helm of the Lions for the majority of their 62 consecutive losses before a breakthrough victory in Round 1 this year.
He guided the club during some of its most difficult periods, which included several triple-figure beltings and winless seasons.
Many credit him for helping keep Nunawading’s doors open when it was in financial trouble.
But Beven was informed last week the club would be parting ways with him.
“You have a plan in place for where you want to end up and even towards the end of this year, you have an idea of where you want the club to be … wins, losses and where we needed to be by the end of the year to go, ‘right, we’re on the right track’,” Beven said.
“Now it’s been cut short … it feels like a bit of a waste the last couple of years because we actually haven’t been able to finish that journey.”
Nunawading won its first game since Round 10, 2015 in its season-opener, and its reserves are within one game of the Division 4 top four.
Beven said he was shocked by the decision.
“I had a five-minute chat with (president) Scott (Cairns) on the Monday and I said I was putting some changes in place for the second half of the year — just training stuff and a few different routines … nothing out of the ordinary,” Beven said.
“Scott said there was a few little whispers a few of the boys are a bit unhappy. I said, ‘that’s fine, we can work through that’.”
Beven said players recently completed a feedback form and “there was nothing on there at all that suggested there were any issues”.
He said he had been overwhelmed by messages of support.
“There was no meeting as such in the last two or three weeks that indicated any issues,” he said.
“You’re obviously not going to have everyone on board, doesn’t matter where you are, whether it is work or a sporting club, not everyone is going to agree with what is said.”
Cairns said it was an “extremely difficult decision” to remove Beven as coach.
He said the club expected to be more competitive this year. The Lions were handed a 10-goal defeat against the previously winless Kilsyth in Round 10 — Beven’s last game in charge.
“There had been a bit of a divide grow between Paul and the group and it was potentially going to end in a few players walking out on the club, and that was something the committee couldn’t risk,” Cairns said.
“We cannot risk putting the club in the same position it was four, five years ago so we made a decision to release Pau
“It’s got to a point where some of the working relationships, certainly between Paul and some senior players, was getting untenable.
“Paul was heartbroken about it and I don’t blame him. The work he’s done over the last two-and-a-half, three seasons at the club has been huge.
“Certainly last week was a difficult time around the club but we are moving forward.”
Comments on social media have since been critical of the club’s decision.
“We feel from looking at the people who have made those comments around social media, potentially a lot of them aren’t involved in the club,” Cairns said.
“They don’t have that intimate knowledge of what is going on at this point in time.”
Assistant Greg Hall will serve as interim coach for the remainder of the season.
The club will start advertising the role next week.
 
eflreceiver said:
Nunawading Sacking their coach? Amazing as he has coached a win at least. Tail Wagging the Dog once again.

From the HS

Axed Nunawading coach Paul Beven says he has been left gutted by the club’s decision to sack him mid-season.
Beven was at the helm of the Lions for the majority of their 62 consecutive losses before a breakthrough victory in Round 1 this year.
He guided the club during some of its most difficult periods, which included several triple-figure beltings and winless seasons.
Many credit him for helping keep Nunawading’s doors open when it was in financial trouble.
But Beven was informed last week the club would be parting ways with him.
“You have a plan in place for where you want to end up and even towards the end of this year, you have an idea of where you want the club to be … wins, losses and where we needed to be by the end of the year to go, ‘right, we’re on the right track’,” Beven said.
“Now it’s been cut short … it feels like a bit of a waste the last couple of years because we actually haven’t been able to finish that journey.”
Nunawading won its first game since Round 10, 2015 in its season-opener, and its reserves are within one game of the Division 4 top four.
Beven said he was shocked by the decision.
“I had a five-minute chat with (president) Scott (Cairns) on the Monday and I said I was putting some changes in place for the second half of the year — just training stuff and a few different routines … nothing out of the ordinary,” Beven said.
“Scott said there was a few little whispers a few of the boys are a bit unhappy. I said, ‘that’s fine, we can work through that’.”
Beven said players recently completed a feedback form and “there was nothing on there at all that suggested there were any issues”.
He said he had been overwhelmed by messages of support.
“There was no meeting as such in the last two or three weeks that indicated any issues,” he said.
“You’re obviously not going to have everyone on board, doesn’t matter where you are, whether it is work or a sporting club, not everyone is going to agree with what is said.”
Cairns said it was an “extremely difficult decision” to remove Beven as coach.
He said the club expected to be more competitive this year. The Lions were handed a 10-goal defeat against the previously winless Kilsyth in Round 10 — Beven’s last game in charge.
“There had been a bit of a divide grow between Paul and the group and it was potentially going to end in a few players walking out on the club, and that was something the committee couldn’t risk,” Cairns said.
“We cannot risk putting the club in the same position it was four, five years ago so we made a decision to release Pau
“It’s got to a point where some of the working relationships, certainly between Paul and some senior players, was getting untenable.
“Paul was heartbroken about it and I don’t blame him. The work he’s done over the last two-and-a-half, three seasons at the club has been huge.
“Certainly last week was a difficult time around the club but we are moving forward.”
Comments on social media have since been critical of the club’s decision.
“We feel from looking at the people who have made those comments around social media, potentially a lot of them aren’t involved in the club,” Cairns said.
“They don’t have that intimate knowledge of what is going on at this point in time.”
Assistant Greg Hall will serve as interim coach for the remainder of the season.
The club will start advertising the role next week.
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Another coach sacked by players same as donvale .my apology he resigned ???
 
eflreceiver said:
Nunawading Sacking their coach? Amazing as he has coached a win at least. Tail Wagging the Dog once again.

From the HS

Axed Nunawading coach Paul Beven says he has been left gutted by the club’s decision to sack him mid-season.
Beven was at the helm of the Lions for the majority of their 62 consecutive losses before a breakthrough victory in Round 1 this year.
He guided the club during some of its most difficult periods, which included several triple-figure beltings and winless seasons.
Many credit him for helping keep Nunawading’s doors open when it was in financial trouble.
But Beven was informed last week the club would be parting ways with him.
“You have a plan in place for where you want to end up and even towards the end of this year, you have an idea of where you want the club to be … wins, losses and where we needed to be by the end of the year to go, ‘right, we’re on the right track’,” Beven said.
“Now it’s been cut short … it feels like a bit of a waste the last couple of years because we actually haven’t been able to finish that journey.”
Nunawading won its first game since Round 10, 2015 in its season-opener, and its reserves are within one game of the Division 4 top four.
Beven said he was shocked by the decision.
“I had a five-minute chat with (president) Scott (Cairns) on the Monday and I said I was putting some changes in place for the second half of the year — just training stuff and a few different routines … nothing out of the ordinary,” Beven said.
“Scott said there was a few little whispers a few of the boys are a bit unhappy. I said, ‘that’s fine, we can work through that’.”
Beven said players recently completed a feedback form and “there was nothing on there at all that suggested there were any issues”.
He said he had been overwhelmed by messages of support.
“There was no meeting as such in the last two or three weeks that indicated any issues,” he said.
“You’re obviously not going to have everyone on board, doesn’t matter where you are, whether it is work or a sporting club, not everyone is going to agree with what is said.”
Cairns said it was an “extremely difficult decision” to remove Beven as coach.
He said the club expected to be more competitive this year. The Lions were handed a 10-goal defeat against the previously winless Kilsyth in Round 10 — Beven’s last game in charge.
“There had been a bit of a divide grow between Paul and the group and it was potentially going to end in a few players walking out on the club, and that was something the committee couldn’t risk,” Cairns said.
“We cannot risk putting the club in the same position it was four, five years ago so we made a decision to release Pau
“It’s got to a point where some of the working relationships, certainly between Paul and some senior players, was getting untenable.
“Paul was heartbroken about it and I don’t blame him. The work he’s done over the last two-and-a-half, three seasons at the club has been huge.
“Certainly last week was a difficult time around the club but we are moving forward.”
Comments on social media have since been critical of the club’s decision.
“We feel from looking at the people who have made those comments around social media, potentially a lot of them aren’t involved in the club,” Cairns said.
“They don’t have that intimate knowledge of what is going on at this point in time.”
Assistant Greg Hall will serve as interim coach for the remainder of the season.
The club will start advertising the role next week.
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Ordinary decision for me. Bev is a good man and was working his ass off for the joint. Poor form nuna. Might be the end for them...


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Nuna kicks 10 goals against the zebras and still goes down by 100 points. Rams win all three games comfortably. Coldstream knocks off Silvan and Surrey Parks straight kicking gets them over the line against Fairpark. Unless the live scores are incorrect.
 
What's happened to Fairpark over the last 2 weeks.
Great news for Surrey Park though.
 
Fairpark in danger of kicking themselves out of 2nd spot. 2 weeks in a row have had a fair bit more scoring shots than thier opposition.

Coldy in striking distance of 2nd now. I hear the team is very happy with a mid season recruit.

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What's happened to Fairpark over the last 2 weeks.
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Their form still looks ok. Lost 3 games by very small margins.
 

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Fairpark need to bounce back and I am confident on their home turf they will. A win against Forest Hill followed by a few walks in the park should see them stay a comfortable 2nd.
 
In the 2nds today at Mitcham early 3rd a really bad storm come through and all players and umpires left the ground for about 5 minutes.Never seen that before but have heard of it happening but any other EFL games today that had this happen to them.Only 1 goal scored in the match after half time to with hail laying all over the ground for about 30 minutes.

PS Looking at FB it seems Jubilee Park got the same storm and they also come off for a longer period.
 
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Same thing at EB GMac.
Next time you are up this way, drop in and have a look at our new lights. Could be night finals and night cricket there.
Night games next year on the cards.
 

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Looking at FB seems to be a number of grounds where they have come off but looking at pictures Jubilee Park seems the worse.There is talk about new lights at Mitcham to which would be good if we ever field a senior womens team and play after the 1's finish.

R16 East Burwood v Mitcham U19 at Nunawading 10 August (would be R17 for seniors).Could be a 1 v 2 clash after Mitcham's defeat of 3rd placed Boronia today and perhaps the match of the day at Koonung.
 
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Division 4 seems much more alive all of a sudden. The top 2 teams have come back to the pack considerably.

Since the top of the table clash between East Burwood and Fairpark both teams have dropped off. The stats prove it.

East Burwood
V Forest Hill R1 +116 : R10 +4 (-114)
V Kilsyth R3 +213 : R12 +146 (-67)
V Surrey Park R4 +57 : R13 +25 (-32)

Fairpark
V CNMLOC R1 +179 : R10 +161 (-18)
V Silvan R2 +17 : R11 -8 (-25)
V Surrey Park R3 +42 : R12 -2 (-44)
V Forest Hill R4 +53 : R13 +49 (-4)

A month or so ago it felt like everyone else was just playing for 3rd spot but now teams are really starting to fancy themselves. FP have obviously dropped 2 games since the EB match but also EB are being seriously challenged.

Cant wait for this weeks match Coldy V EB. Coldy having the bye yesterday while EB had to bash themselves up in the horrible weather against Surrey and now back up against a fresh Coldy away. I'm tipping the upset.
 
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