Do you think we should chase Gumby?

[theGav56]

Roberton has a touch of Mundy and Pendlebury about him. I remember Malthouse saying, in regards to Pendlebury, that he didn't have the speed to play outside, so they moved him inside. Roberton isn't lightning fast, but he is a big body and can run.

Geez I reckon the Dons would need to throw in a pretty good sweetener then. 1st round pick? Watson?

 

[Slattery_20]

Isn't that akin to me saying that I'm not fat, just short for my weight?

Yes and no.
His actual injuries keeping him out have been mostly hammies & soft tissues. (And surgery, and 3-6 months' recovery after every bout of surgery)

Caused by issues further up - a wonky back.

If that's fixed, right up the top of the chain, he's good to go - rest of his body seems to be fine.

 

[Taylor]

I rate Roberton as a better prospect than Gumbleton. In fact, if Gumbleton was four inches shorter he would have been delisted already, his height and junior record is all that is going for him.

The chance of Roberton going on to be a gun midfielder are about the same as Gumbleton playing 20 games a year for the rest of his career, in my opinion and Dylan is already doing adequately down back when given the chance.

I'd challenge him to be the best runner in the preseason and see what he has got, I'd hate for it to happen at another club. We would never live it down.

 

[theGav56]

I'd challenge him to be the best runner in the preseason and see what he has got, I'd hate for it to happen at another club. We would never live it down.

You would need to challenge him to stay at the club first. He has reportedly requested a trade.

 

[kp junior]

Yes and no.
His actual injuries keeping him out have been mostly hammies & soft tissues. (And surgery, and 3-6 months' recovery after every bout of surgery)

Caused by issues further up - a wonky back.

If that's fixed, right up the top of the chain, he's good to go - rest of his body seems to be fine.

Oh, so it was only multiple surgeries to his lower back that has kept him from playing these last 6 years? No risk at all then

 

[Slattery_20]

Oh, so it was only multiple surgeries to his lower back that has kept him from playing these last 6 years? No risk at all then

Exactly... why even worry about it?

 

[freo84]

What they should do with Gumby's back is similar to what they did with Sandilands big toe. Just insert a special plate that takes the load of his lower back and he will be good to go!

 

[theGav56]

Exactly... why even worry about it?

I think we are in a situation where we need to explore every possible option regarding KPP's. That includes FA (Cloke), Mini-Draft (Hogan), trades (Gumby), the Draft (Shaw, Stringer, Jakchs) and development from within (JA as a backman, Silvagni and the body rebuild).

Why wouldn't we consider Gumby? If the medical reports make him too high a risk then leave him alone.

 

[Freo_4eva]

Just out of curiosity, and sounding like a complete dumbarse.. how does one carry out medical tests in this sort of situation? How can someone predict whats going to happen, if say Gumby is currently fit and ready (for this 6 month period hoorah)

No troll btw

 

[rgauci]

Just out of curiosity, and sounding like a complete dumbarse.. how does one carry out medical tests in this sort of situation? How can someone predict whats going to happen, if say Gumby is currently fit and ready (for this 6 month period hoorah)

No troll btw

The club would request that the player sign consent for our doctors to review his medical file and medical history. They would review all his imaging and surgeries to date. Then our physio's would probably put him through a fitness test and look at his mobility. Then a meeting with physio, doctors and coaching staff would probably discuss the pro's and con's.

 

[Freo_4eva]

Thanks mate

Im not against taking a punt on him of sorts.. just dont want to give up anything (or much at all) to get him. If the reports about Roberton are true (here is hoping they arent).. i guess a 'take what we can get ' mentality would need to come into play, but again, hopefully Robbo wants to stay

 

[apuchar]

Just out of curiosity, and sounding like a complete dumbarse.. how does one carry out medical tests in this sort of situation? How can someone predict whats going to happen, if say Gumby is currently fit and ready (for this 6 month period hoorah)

No troll btw

More like scans, to be able to anticipate resulting injuries from any structural problems.

 

[Slattery_20]

Just out of curiosity, and sounding like a complete dumbarse.. how does one carry out medical tests in this sort of situation? How can someone predict whats going to happen, if say Gumby is currently fit and ready (for this 6 month period hoorah)

No troll btw

Clearly the different surgeons & docs who've looked at him over the 6 years @ Essendon haven't been able to accurately predict. Even with regular scans etc.
I doubt anyone else's docs would find much more.

This is the nub of the issue. It hasn't been predictable, at all.

 

[Nickos66]

Are you guys trolling? Seriously, guys, Roberton is no loss. Roberton for Gumbleton? Thats not even stupid enough to joke about, Essendon wouldn't even think about it, they'd probobly slap us in the face for offering suck a pathetic trade. If Roberton goes, we're looking at about a 3rd round draft pick, which is pretty much what hes worth. Gumbleton wont come cheap. Off course we should target him. As far as Roberton goes, if he wants to go, let him go, for he is no loss. Must keep McPhee though!

Good summation there, Bondy.

One's a victim of Huge HBF depth and still managing to crack games in the league side, the other is a crippled mess, still riding on the coattails of his juniors reputation, I'm not sure how you can draw them as polar opposites in trade discussions.

 

[Freo_4eva]

Clearly the different surgeons & docs who've looked at him over the 6 years @ Essendon haven't been able to accurately predict. Even with regular scans etc.
I doubt anyone else's docs would find much more.

This is the nub of the issue. It hasn't been predictable, at all.

Yeah pretty much this would be my uneducated thoughts.. how can you predict these things with any great accuracy? Surely your best bet is to go on his previous issues as a fair reflection and unless you can get him dirt cheap, you would steer clear of the risk

 

[apuchar]

Yeah pretty much this would be my uneducated thoughts.. how can you predict these things with any great accuracy? Surely your best bet is to go on his previous issues as a fair reflection and unless you can get him dirt cheap, you would steer clear of the risk

We sorted out McPharlin's problems, Hawthorn couldn't. Jeff farmers hamstring injuries disappeared when he left Melbourne. Not saying we will be able to turn Gumby around (it will depend on the structural issues he has) but don't assume that because some Victorian club couldn't or wouldn't do something that we can't. That is the eye will be looking at his injuries with not the jaundiced superior eye of a Victorian.

 

[Arcassius]

We sorted out McPharlin's problems, Hawthorn couldn't. Jeff farmers hamstring injuries disappeared when he left Melbourne. Not saying we will be able to turn Gumby around (it will depend on the structural issues he has) but don't assume that because some Victorian club couldn't or wouldn't do something that we can't. That is the eye will be looking at his injuries with not the jaundiced superior eye of a Victorian.

Mind you Fyfe's shoulder, Mora's knee, and now Pav's hips all say hello from Victoria

 

[Alfonz]

Some people discussing Roberton seem to not realise he has supposedly asked for a trade back to Melbourne, so it may not matter whether we want him to stay or not. And if he is going, then I'd rather get Gumbleton than some 2nd or 3rd round pick. Although the more I think about it, the more I think Gumbleton is worth more than Roberton. But there could be two teams with players wanting to swap states, might be easiest just to swap players.

Some people on here are overrating Roberton's ability/potential. I think he could be a solid B-grade player that could have a decent career, but I seriously doubt he will turn into a top shelf performer.

 

[nurries]

Mind you Fyfe's shoulder, Mora's knee, and now Pav's hips all say hello from Victoria

Surgery wise we are possibly behind hence the above but W.A. has awesome physiotherapist training, in fact it is not only the best in the country but one of the best in the world hence a lot of American, Canadians and Europeans study here

 

[apuchar]

Mind you Fyfe's shoulder, Mora's knee, and now Pav's hips all say hello from Victoria

We have the best burns surgeon and best children's hospital and children's research facility in Australia. Queensland have the best overall medical research facilities in Australia. Just because some of the best sports surgeons are in Victoria it does not mean we don't do other things well.

 

[Taylor]

We have the best burns surgeon and best children's hospital and children's research facility in Australia. Queensland have the best overall medical research facilities in Australia. Just because some of the best sports surgeons are in Victoria it does not mean we don't do other things well.

Which would be great if we were operating a child labor sweatshop producing moonshine.

I want more for Dylan than Gumbleton. I'd rather we have Roberton and Essendon pay out Scott's contract when his back goes midway through next year and he retires.

 

[Proud Bogan]

Which would be great if we were operating a child labor sweatshop producing moonshine..

No doubt that this will be mis-construed.

But this really did have to be said.

 

[Dormammu]

Jeff farmers hamstring injuries disappeared when he left Melbourne.

That was a long time ago, 10 years ago, medical science has improved greatly across the entire industry.

And Farmer's career at the Dees was comparable to Freo - 7 seasons for 118 games (plus 5 weeks suspended) versus 7 seasons for 131 games (plus 3 weeks suspended) for us. Also, he played only 8 games in 2007, no suspensions, there was no magical hamstring disappearing act.

 

[Arcassius]

We have the best burns surgeon and best children's hospital and children's research facility in Australia. Queensland have the best overall medical research facilities in Australia. Just because some of the best sports surgeons are in Victoria it does not mean we don't do other things well.

Horses for courses really isn't it. A West Aussie doctor might be able to cast an independent eye over an injury like Gumby's but don't write off Victorians for simply being Victorian. We've started sending our players there which says a bit about where the club feels the best surgeons for orthopaedic surgery are located - which is what those players all have in common.

 

[apuchar]

Horses for courses really isn't it. A West Aussie doctor might be able to cast an independent eye over an injury like Gumby's but don't write off Victorians for simply being Victorian. We've started sending our players there which says a bit about where the club feels the best surgeons for orthopaedic surgery are located - which is what those players all have in common.

I'll keep that in mind Dad. I must say I preferred you when you were funny and mixed in better company.