Docklands Stadium (Marvel Stadium) - Discussion

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JohnZ

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I can’t tell if this is a joke! One of the major complaints about marvel is the shade during day games. Makes it literally impossible to see half the ground live and on tv
The issue is the hard edges created by the rectangular roof overhang (as seen below). To fix this, make the roof more oval like and use glass to help soften the edges.

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Hell no
The issue is the hard edges created by the rectangular roof overhang (as seen below). To fix this, make the roof more oval like and use glass to help soften the edges.

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Of just get rid of roof on two sides.
two sides hence willbe open aired like old northern stand at mcg.
two sides will be partially undercover.
so remove existing roof structure and replace in that way
 

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Of just get rid of roof on two sides.
two sides hence willbe open aired like old northern stand at mcg.
two sides will be partially undercover.
so remove existing roof structure and replace in that way
They need the roof for concerts and the like, so I don't think removing it would be a better outcome than the present, but the place needs natural light during the day. Glass dome would fix that.
 

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I work at Marvel staduim.
The building was supposed to start end of 2020 but covid must have pushed it back a year.
Plenty of fan engagement and things to do.
Once all the works are completed it will be amazing, just hope it doesn't take away from the actual stadium itself.
It wont be as open anymore as the MCG and others are with all the new buildings surrounding the area.
Something like 40,000 people use the precinct (including southern cross) every day and they wanted to capture some of that with the new 24hr shops etc.
DFO on the other side has fallen off a lot so there's opportunity there.
 

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I work at Marvel staduim.
The building was supposed to start end of 2020 but covid must have pushed it back a year.
Plenty of fan engagement and things to do.
Once all the works are completed it will be amazing, just hope it doesn't take away from the actual stadium itself.
It wont be as open anymore as the MCG and others are with all the new buildings surrounding the area.
Something like 40,000 people use the precinct (including southern cross) every day and they wanted to capture some of that with the new 24hr shops etc.
DFO on the other side has fallen off a lot so there's opportunity there.
Fan engagement needed to cover for the games?
I go to the footy not an event ..
 

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As a full MCC member who goes to the MCG alot, Level 2 in Docklands is still arguably the best seat to watch football in the country. On average it's a much better ground to watch the game at than the MCG with the average view in the cheap seats..

The only comparable spot to L2 at Marvel are the mezzanine balconies of the MCC.

I've never understood the criticism from MCG tenanted clubs supporters, especially given it's convenience to all train lines, the CBD, Crown etc.

With the renno's and upgraded amenities, it will be awesome.


It was designed back around 1995/1996 people forget.


If it was designed now, it would obviously be a lot different, but it's still a great stadium to physically watch the game. You feel like you could mark the ball in some positions on the ground you are that close to the play.
 

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I've never understood the criticism from MCG tenanted clubs supporters, especially given it's convenience to all train lines, the CBD, Crown etc.
1. it's very harsh, a lot of concrete and fluro bouncing off it. Some more natural lighting would help. In the day it's particulary marish
2. Seat availability. GA is only on lvl 3 no matter what (as opposed to the MCG where you can sometimes get GA on lvl 1). Lvl2 is always almost empty because the seats are so expensive. Which means that most fans are on lvl3 completely disconnected from the play. Particularly noticeable at quieter games when the home members don't show up to their seats on lvl1
 

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One problem I have with Docklands that no one really talks about is the temperature of the venue when the roof is closed, in winter the stadium is sometimes colder than outside but in summer, if it's a hot day and forecast to rain, it's like being in a oven. One of the Melbourne BBL derbies I went to had this issue when it was 40 or so degrees before a thundery change came through and because not a lot of fresh, cooler air was coming into the stadium (it only comes through the gates for those not familiar with the stadium's layout), we ended up with the latter scenario. Hopefully this rare ventilation problem gets fixed with the refurb
 

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1. it's very harsh, a lot of concrete and fluro bouncing off it. Some more natural lighting would help. In the day it's particulary marish
2. Seat availability. GA is only on lvl 3 no matter what (as opposed to the MCG where you can sometimes get GA on lvl 1). Lvl2 is always almost empty because the seats are so expensive. Which means that most fans are on lvl3 completely disconnected from the play. Particularly noticeable at quieter games when the home members don't show up to their seats on lvl1
-At smaller AFL club games there is GA on level 1 but because of a smaller ground member seating generally takes up the majority of the bottom level at Marvel. You can of course buy allocated seats on the ground level too.
-With dynamic pricing the teams now have control (for the most part) over the prices for seats on level 1/2 while level 3 remains the same for all in GA areas.
-Cant really do much when 2 teams of 45k+ members show up and majority of them have allocated seats, maybe you should have prebooked.
 

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-At smaller AFL club games there is GA on level 1 but because of a smaller ground member seating generally takes up the majority of the bottom level at Marvel. You can of course buy allocated seats on the ground level too.
-With dynamic pricing the teams now have control (for the most part) over the prices for seats on level 1/2 while level 3 remains the same for all in GA areas.
-Cant really do much when 2 teams of 45k+ members show up and majority of them have allocated seats, maybe you should have prebooked.
I have no issues pre booking for a game that has a crowd above 40k. Marvel is just as good as the G when crowds go that high.

My issue is that the atmosphere is severely lacking when more than 50% of the crowd is on lvl3. It totally disconnects the crowd from the game.
 

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I have no issues pre booking for a game that has a crowd above 40k. Marvel is just as good as the G when crowds go that high.

My issue is that the atmosphere is severely lacking when more than 50% of the crowd is on lvl3. It totally disconnects the crowd from the game.
The MCG is exactly the same with 30k. Arguably even worse. The seating is no where near as tiered as Docklands. The worst seats in the MCG don't come close to the worst seats in the Docklands.

At least 25% of the seats at the MCG, you struggle to see a major portion of the opposite side of the ground.


1. it's very harsh, a lot of concrete and fluro bouncing off it. Some more natural lighting would help. In the day it's particulary marish
2. Seat availability. GA is only on lvl 3 no matter what (as opposed to the MCG where you can sometimes get GA on lvl 1). Lvl2 is always almost empty because the seats are so expensive. Which means that most fans are on lvl3 completely disconnected from the play. Particularly noticeable at quieter games when the home members don't show up to their seats on lvl1

I have probably sat in Medallion Club at least 50 times.

Each time I've bought tickets off of ebay for not much more than the cost of GA ticket. That includes both football and cricket.

It's part of the reason why the ground is also good. A rank and file supporter can't buy tickets to the MCC on a whim.

From what I've read of your posts, it seems your experiences may be influenced by the fact you haven't experienced the best parts of the ground.

Atmosphere is important, there's also something to be said about being able to have a beer on the balconies overlooking docklands and walking 30 steps unencumbered to your seat, center wing, probably in the best viewing position for sport in the country.
 
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One problem I have with Docklands that no one really talks about is the temperature of the venue when the roof is closed, in winter the stadium is sometimes colder than outside but in summer, if it's a hot day and forecast to rain, it's like being in a oven. One of the Melbourne BBL derbies I went to had this issue when it was 40 or so degrees before a thundery change came through and because not a lot of fresh, cooler air was coming into the stadium (it only comes through the gates for those not familiar with the stadium's layout), we ended up with the latter scenario. Hopefully this rare ventilation problem gets fixed with the refurb
Take the good with the bad.

How many games have been played in perfect conditions despite it absolutely pissing down outside since it was opened?

It would be in the 100's.

The roof is a far bigger positive than a negative.

Like I said earlier, the ground was designed 25 years ago. It was designed just after the Great Southern Stand of the MCG.
 

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The MCG is exactly the same with 30k.
With a 30k crowd at the MCG, most people are sitting on the bottom deck because they're more flexible about moving GA downstairs for quiet games. Much better atmosphere. (The fact that we play games in front of 30k people at the MCG is a whole other topic tho).

I have probably sat in Medallion Club at least 50 times.

Each time I've bought tickets off of ebay for not much more than the cost of GA ticket. That includes both football and cricket.
Medallion club is only one half of Lvl2. There's also the other side which are the most expensive seats for the public to buy on ticketmaster (not ebay). $100+ is way too much for most.

When you're talking about football club members who get GA memberships, they've shelled out $200 for the season and get stuck on lvl3, they don't have $50 per game to spend on questionably legally scalped medallion club tickets on ebay. There's a reason why medallion club is almost always empty. If it was such a deal, I'm sure it would always be full!

From what I've read of your posts, it seems your experiences may be influenced by the fact you haven't experienced the best parts of the ground.
I'vespent my fair share of time in a lot of places the public don't normally get to go to at the G, Docklands and KP. But that's besides the point. When the general public buy tickets, they go to ticketek/ticketmaster, they don't go to ebay to scalp medallion club tickets.

Take the good with the bad.
The roof being shut when it's pissing down is fine. When it's a nice sunny day, keep it open. Better yet, permanent glass dome to be a best of both worlds.
 

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