List Mgmt. Draft thread - 2025 (remaining picks: 29, 34)

[Keys]

Live draft hand
R1: 1 (Duursma), 4 (CDT), 19 (Lindsay)
R2: 29, 34
RD: 1

Draft picks pre-draft
R1: 1, 2, 13
R2: 34, 41
RD: 1

List spots available
Main list: 2 (includes Duursma, CDT, Lindsay)
Cat A Rookie list: 1 (expecting Robertson, Macrae and Schoenberg to join as SSP signings)
Cat B Rookie list: 1

Draft order

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2025 AFL Draft Guide

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Matthew Clarke on Gettable 17/11

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Cal Twomey’s Phantom Draft

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[Doashuey]

Was listening to Dan Does Footy and they have Moch draft with guy Called Dylan Alexander. Not sure if he is just a nuffy but he seems to know a fair bit about the players.

He has WCE with Pick 1 - Will Dursma - Pick 2 WCE bid on Zeke Uland. Pick 3 WCE - Sharp and then our next pick Farrow.

Yeah I remember the one they did last year. Dont know his background but he seems to know his shit. I dont think he has many sources though, just his opinion and reading of the tealeaves. I think he had us taking Murphy Reid in last years Mock.

 

[dinnaz]

Main reason I'd like Sharp at 2 (or 1) is he'd be the most likely to help Reid. Whether that's dishing it out or taking some heat as an in and under extractor. He'd be a great addition.

Lock it in:
Reid to FF
So we can play 4x 200cm+ Beasty, Bull type midfielders Ban your gfs from watching west coast because they might just get pregnant.

 

[Keys]

Here's a random little tidbit from

https://archive.md/gr6sT

And with that pick in their mock draft, West Coast select…….


wait for it….



Jacob Farrow

Cue melts - mind you at that point Grlj was the next best option still on the board. Phillipou, Ludowyke, Lindsay, Marsh and Oskar Taylor taken the picks after that

 

[mattyc75]

At 2 I’d pretty much be ruling out anyone that’s name isn’t Duff-Tytler, Robey or Sharp. At 13 I don’t not want Farrow, but I’m iffy on wanting him. Definitely don’t want Greeves he’s the last character I’d be drafting, I like NHH but we’d probably ruin his development like we would’ve Murphy Reid’s. Also read some people wanting Sumner-Pickett at 13, too early for me. Read some plodder write we’d pick LSP at 13 with Dovaston still on the board and I almost had a stroke

How would we have ruined mreids development?
I find takes like this utterly ridiculous.

 

[stallon]

I understand this perspective but if we traded pick 1, we still land two of Sharp, Cumming + CDT and there's a world where we can do that without trading 13 or our F1, while picking up another high pick in this or the next draft.

I get people are attached to Duursma but imagine getting, for example, Sharp, CDT + Dovaston this draft, Cochrane + high end mid next draft, plus Warner. That's the core set and we're replacing the likes of Maric with better role players moving forward.

I dont think we are likely for Cochrane next year, I dont see us as likely spoon winners. I have the field ahead of us at very short odds.

What do you think we could get for pick 1 that is not wildly irresponsible from another club? How does your scenario play out?

Duursma or a player like Duursma is a more important asset than Sharp or any of the other names you mentioned imo

 

[Peptide Pig]

I had Dale Doback's son in our top 5 so this is a great result.

I’m sold. The assistance package all makes sense now. Well played Eagles

 

[amazingjoshy]

 

[txbyhull]

How would we have ruined mreids development?
I find takes like this utterly ridiculous.

I just think he would've struggled a lot in our side, it's a bad attitude sure but we're sorely lacking in success stories the last few years. Definitely wouldn't have been challenging for rising star thats for sure

 

[Doashuey]

How would we have ruined mreids development?
I find takes like this utterly ridiculous.

Our development of young players the past few years hasn't been stellar you got to admit.
That said Reid is a real talent and I think he still would have done well for us last year but not to the extent he did in a Dockers team that had a functional midfield and could get the ball forward more than we could. I don't think he would have gone close to a Rising Star as a HFF in our set up.

 

[stallon]

Was listening to Dan Does Footy and they have Moch draft with guy Called Dylan Alexander. Not sure if he is just a nuffy but he seems to know a fair bit about the players.

He has WCE with Pick 1 - Will Dursma - Pick 2 WCE bid on Zeke Uland. Pick 3 WCE - Sharp and then our next pick Farrow.

He doesnt know much about the non vic teams in general, his views about most teams are a bit off imo but he seems to know about the draftees for the most part(mainly the vic ones, hes very vic focused)

 

[mattyc75]

I just think he would've struggled a lot in our side, it's a bad attitude sure but we're sorely lacking in success stories the last few years. Definitely wouldn't have been challenging for rising star thats for sure

Not so sure, cripps won our goal kicking and mreid has played that high half forward
He wouldve had more than ample opportunity to go on ball too.
I firmly believe we shoukdve taken him as best available, best by a fair margin too
Even if he'd taken a bit longer to shine (as opposed to 1 week) he would suit our rebuild perfectly as he's in no way shape or form a backman

 

[Mr Q]

Would you’s do a deal with Melbourne


Melbourne trade out pick 8+Gold Coast F1
For
West cost F1 + pick 13

At pick 8 West Coast could take another wa boy in Jacob Farrow or a Dyson Sharp

Wow. I don't think I've ever seen a suggestion before which is lose-lose because one side loses twice over. This deal would rate an F- if the Eagles did it.

I'm assuming either WC "F1" should read "F3" or it's supposed to say "7,8,GC F1" or they left Melbourne's F1 off by accident.

No way we should be trading out our F1 for anything other than a monster offer.

 

[mattyc75]

Our development of young players the past few years hasn't been stellar you got to admit.
That said Reid is a real talent and I think he still would have done well for us last year but not to the extent he did in a Dockers team that had a functional midfield and could get the ball forward more than we could. I don't think he would have gone close to a Rising Star as a HFF in our set up.

Yes but generally we're been trying to rebuild our midfield around Harley with backmen or late draft picks

 

[Keys]

Gettable throwing up the 2 + 13 for 5 + 6.

They said more unlikely the Eagles don’t do it but they would throw it out.

If Bombers stay at 5 and 6 Sharp likely for them and Hawks and Eagles are keen.

It was an interesting discussion

They didn’t think we’d accept it but acknowledged later, it was something they’d do if they were the Eagles - a view I agree with. Personally, 2,13 for 5,6 is ideal imo but figured the Bombers wouldn’t offer it. Maybe they do - it wasn’t ruled out as being unrealistic

Cal also was coy as to whether it would be CDT Essendon take if they had pick 2. Assuming Duursma is a lock for pick 1 then perhaps they’re considering Robey. Do Richmond then go CDT or go with a combination of Taylor, Cumming or Grlj

Us trading down from 2 to 5 and still have access to CDT would be quite the plot twist. Then Sharp or Cumming at 6 and it’d be hard to argue we didn’t nail the draft as Twomey correctly said we need to

 

[Jeremy McLovin]

Gettable real i

It was an interesting discussion

They didn’t think we’d accept it but acknowledged later, it was something they’d do if they were the Eagles - a view I agree with. Personally, 2,13 for 5,6 is ideal imo but figured the Bombers wouldn’t offer it. Maybe they do - it wasn’t ruled out as being unrealistic

Cal also was coy as to whether it would be CDT Essendon take if they had pick 2. Assuming Duursma is a lock for pick 1 then perhaps they’re considering Robey. Do Richmond then go CDT or go with a combination of Taylor, Cumming or Grlj

Us trading down from 2 to 5 and still have access to CDT would be quite the plot twist. Then Sharp or Cumming at 6 and it’d be hard to argue we didn’t nail the draft as Twomey correctly said we need to

Yeah very interesting to hear it thrown up as a suggestion, and even more interesting to hear the view that any reluctance would be from our side. 5, 6, F2 maybe?

Also interesting to hear the talk about Melbourne and Pickett, if they think he's too much of a reach with 8 could they be a target for upgrading 13?

 

[Elite Pete]

I've always been under the assumption that 2 and 13 would get us 5 and 6. What would be wrong with that? Especially if the club would prefer to take a mid over a forward/ruck.

Clarke and the Donald for about a month...especially now that we got the added Oz compo have said they'll take best talent available. So they may just do the bog standard Eagles boring thing and just take CDT anyway and all this mental masturbation was for nothing.

I agree but Cal seems to think we would reject it.

Clearly the intel is CDT and maybe Robey are now seen as a tier above the next group in the open pool.

I’d do the trade, I think CDT suits the Bombers needs and they likely get a Farrow/Dovastan/Lindsay with the next pick.

More importantly we would get what I see as our number 1 priority midfield Sharp and Cumming/Grlj/Taylor.

Harley, Hewett, Sharp, Cumming and Duursma has plenty of star factor and potential for next year and the future but maybe we love CDT/Robey as well.

 

[Doashuey]

Yes but generally we're been trying to rebuild our midfield around Harley with backmen or late draft picks

Can you expand on that? Not sure I see your point. Our development of young players across the board has not been great. For instance, Gross played a great 1st game against Bombers and then gets a couple of weeks as a sub and dropped. That set him back IMO and knocked his confidence.
I dont think we would have ruined MReids development but it is hard to see him going as well as a HFF last year in our set up with our midfield.

 

[Elite Pete]

It was an interesting discussion

They didn’t think we’d accept it but acknowledged later, it was something they’d do if they were the Eagles - a view I agree with. Personally, 2,13 for 5,6 is ideal imo but figured the Bombers wouldn’t offer it. Maybe they do - it wasn’t ruled out as being unrealistic

Cal also was coy as to whether it would be CDT Essendon take if they had pick 2. Assuming Duursma is a lock for pick 1 then perhaps they’re considering Robey. Do Richmond then go CDT or go with a combination of Taylor, Cumming or Grlj

Us trading down from 2 to 5 and still have access to CDT would be quite the plot twist. Then Sharp or Cumming at 6 and it’d be hard to argue we didn’t nail the draft as Twomey correctly said we need to

Cal last weeks episode said he believes Richmond would be all over CDT if he didn’t go in the first two picks.

Agreed it’s great deal for us.

 

[mattyc75]

Can you expand on that? Not sure I see your point. Our development of young players across the board has not been great. For instance, Gross played a great 1st game against Bombers and then gets a couple of weeks as a sub and dropped. That set him back IMO and knocked his confidence.
I dont think we would have ruined MReids development but it is hard to see him going as well as a HFF last year in our set up with our midfield.

Like I said we've been trying to rebuild the midfield with backmen( hough,ginbey and likely bo. )
And late picks ( gross,Davis)
Not sure we've stifled their development as much as they aren't as ready as a top draft pick mayb be or someone whose actually used to playing in the midfield

 

[Elite Pete]

 

[eaglesnutcase]

I've watched every Sharp highlights package available and I get why a lot of people like how he go's about it. He tackles hard and get's his hands on the ball constantly. You can't fault his work rate. But that's only half of the battle, you still have to be able to do something with it. Most of the time he's dishing off a quick handball or a looping short pass. He's got a poor ball drop at speed (not that he has any) shown pretty clearly at 1.40 in his SANFL round 16 highlights. I think he'll slide past Cumming, Grlj and maybe even Farrow because without a decent kick, speed or endurance he's limited to a Priddis style ball hunting inside mid role. Some people love the Pridda type of Mid and that's cool. I think the game moved away from even having 1 of that type of one dimensional player in the middle 2 years ago.

Geez mate. Have you looked at his kicking both under pressure and spot ups into the corridor?
It doesn’t sound like it.

 

[Keys]

The price for pick 1 in Harley’s draft was 2 and 3 from North - a trade they arguably should’ve done but didn’t. Who’d you rather Reid or McKercher and Duursma right now?

Duursma is obviously the clear favourite for pick 1 but he’s not at the same level as Reid was in his draft year. On that basis picks 5,6 would have to be close to being enough for pick 1

Would give us at least two of Cumming, Sharp or Taylor to go with CDT - assuming Richmond take Robey with one of their picks

We’d then have the option of using pick 13, trading it up to Carlton’s pick 9 for Farrow or finding a buyer happy to throw their F1 at us for it

Like North did in 2023, I suspect Essendon walk away from that asking price though

 

[Jeremy McLovin]

Something I noticed while having a look at the draft order and the power rankings - it's entirely possible for our pick 34 to be the second pick of round 2.


The teams ahead of us all have academy players who could potentially go before their picks and either eat them completely, or at least eat the first and shunt the second behind our 34. The obvious exception is North, but you'd have to think that they'd be looking at bundling their two picks together for GC's 15, for example. GC are obviously going to be wiped out entirely, so if bids for Max King

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and Adam Sweid come early enough (and assuming they get matched of course), night two could well start with the bulldogs and have us up second. Could end up being surprised by who's still available then, I wouldn't be shocked if Thredgold or Addinsall were still on the board.

 

[Astro7]

Everybody whining that if we don't take an inside midfielder in the draft then we won't improve our midfield which needs serious help yesterday.

That is true, but nobody we draft this year is going to help that next year or even the year after in a serious capacity, that is why we are bringing in the mature age mids in Dev, Fin, Harry etc as a stop gap at worst and hopefully we find one of them to be a long term player.

We also have McCarthy, Baker, Yeo, Kelly, Hewett, Hough, Graham, Hall that can all roll through the midfield.

We can then take best available mid with our likely top 3 pick next year.

So if we rate Duursma and CDT as the best talent then we as a club need to add the best talent possible and can't afford not to get these decisions right in the next two drafts or we will be a basket case for another decade.

You make some fair points, but I don't think anyone was 'whining' (bit overdramatic) as much as discussing/suggesting an obvious need, as you've agreed to.

But it's important to factor in McCarthy, Baker, Yeo, Kelly, Hough, Graham, Hall rolling through the midfield...then add in Allan, Gross, Davis, maybe Grego as knocking on the door after another preseason.(and anyone I've forgotten?)
Then add Dev, Fin, Harry as mature age mids as you say.

Best available mid is Duursma, a great get on top of all that.
Then add CDT and Farrow...or...split #2 for Sharp and another. Add Banfield etc.
Any which way we roll with all of this, it's looking pretty good.
But to say none of these new young players will help next year OR the year after is a bit of a stretch? Quality top picks are usually walk up starters within a short time, and have an impact on a game, even if on an 'AFL pace' learning curve.
I seriously doubt we'll be a basketcase for another decade.

 

[rebel23]

I just think he would've struggled a lot in our side, it's a bad attitude sure but we're sorely lacking in success stories the last few years. Definitely wouldn't have been challenging for rising star thats for sure

Not sure I agree... Class always wins out.
It may have been the opposite... He would have helped our development.