List Mgmt. Draft thread - 2025 (remaining picks: 29, 34)

[Keys]

Live draft hand
R1: 1 (Duursma), 4 (CDT), 19 (Lindsay)
R2: 29, 34
RD: 1

Draft picks pre-draft
R1: 1, 2, 13
R2: 34, 41
RD: 1

List spots available
Main list: 2 (includes Duursma, CDT, Lindsay)
Cat A Rookie list: 1 (expecting Robertson, Macrae and Schoenberg to join as SSP signings)
Cat B Rookie list: 1

Draft order

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Draft prospect video highlights (thanks to noobermensch)

Rookie Me Central 2025 Draft Guide

2025 AFL Draft Guide

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Matthew Clarke on Gettable 17/11

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Cal Twomey’s Phantom Draft

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[Keys]

Trade period is done and dusted for another year so our full attention now turns to the National Draft to be held in just under 5 weeks time over November 19 (R1), 20 (R2 onwards) and 21 (Rookie draft and PSD)

Our draft hand is now set, although it remains possible for clubs to trade draft picks up to and during the draft.

The picks we currently hold are :

• R1- 1,2,13
• R2- 34,41
• R3- 53,58

We can only take into the draft the same number of picks as we have vacant list spots. Matthew Clarke has said we have 5 open spots on the main list and 4 rookie list vacancies courtesy of the AFL list concessions we were given.

That may change pending new contracts being given to Jamie Cripps

15

Jamie Cripps

Age

33

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

4.8

3star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.9

5star

G

1.3

5star

D

10.3

3star

K

6.3

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.4

3star

G

0.4

3star

D

6.4

2star

K

4.2

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

1.0

1star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.4

5star

, Malakai Champion and Coen Livingstone who remain uncontracted- at least publicly since no formal announcement has been made. Livingstone looms as a possible delisting whilst Cripps and Champion have both reportedly been offered contracts.

The club has also committed to adding Deven Robertson

40

Deven Robertson

Age

24

Ht

185cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.0

1star

T

3.0

5star

CL

0.0

1star

D

7.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.0

1star

T

3.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

D

7.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.0

1star

T

3.0

5star

CL

0.0

1star

to the squad as either a DFA or (more likely) a SSP signing which would allow him to be added to the rookie list

Players can also be moved from the main list to the rookie list by delisting them and redrafting them in the RD if more main list spots are needed, although there’s been no indication from the club they intend doing this

Normally the PSD is a non event but with Brisbane and Adelaide failing to settle on a trade for Callum Ah Chee

4

Callum Ah Chee

Age

28

Ht

182cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.8

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

5.9

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.5

3star

D

11.1

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

3.4

2star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.7

4star

G

0.1

3star

D

9.4

3star

K

4.4

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.8

4star

, he will now likely be available in that draft. West Coast have pick 1 giving us the opportunity to add Ah Chee at no trade cost albeit on contract terms that he can/will stipulate. However, that option has all but been ruled out by Clarke which will disappoint some posters

Heading into the draft, West Coast also have the ability to match bids on our Father/Son (Charlie Banfield- son of Drew) and three NGA players (Tylah Williams, Koby Evans and Wes Walley). Matching bids requires the following:

• Picks 1-18: Points value of the pick less 10% discount
• Picks 19-36: Points value of the pick less an 84 point discount
• Picks 37+: The next available pick held
• For NGA players who don’t receive a bid, the club can add them to the Cat B rookie list at the conclusion of the main draft

In an interview post trade period (link below), Clarke has said we intend to use a minimum of 4 draft picks, are unlikely to split either pick 1 or 2 and will look to consolidate our later picks to improve our position further

How might things play out then:

• Picks 1 and 2 we intend to keep, although we are likely to receive offers for those with Essendon (who hold picks 5 and 6) and/or Melbourne (holding picks 7 and 8) the best placed to grab our attention
• Pick 13 might be used with our later picks to move higher up the order although Carlton with picks 9 and 11 appear the only possibility
• Picks 34,41,53,58 - at this stage with only 5 vacant list spots, picks 53 and 58 are surplus and will vanish unless we either create an additional spot or trade those 4 picks to move up the draft this year or for future picks
• Matching bids - it’s unknown exactly when bids will come although there’s speculation Williams could attract a late R1 bid which would be somewhere in the mid twenties. As it stands picks 34 and 41 hold enough points value combined to match a bid from pick 23 onwards. A bid for Banfield earlier than pick 37 seems unlikely so there should be no issue matching should we choose. Evans might receive a late bid but probably needs to be overlooked for us to add him as a Cat B rookie as we may not have an available list spot to match a bid. Walley probably gets through the main draft without a bid so could be added as a Cat B
• We will also hold pick 1 in the rookie draft which would give us the opportunity to add a player to the rookie list depending on list strategy
• Any remaining spots to be filled signing players as SSP options possibly following a train on period to assess candidates

In summary, to complete our list based on available spots:

Main list:
• 3x R1 picks
• 2x matched bids - Williams and Banfield

Rookie list:
• Robertson
• NGA additions - Evans and/or Walley if no bids received
• Balance of list to be filled by up to 2 mature aged players via pick 1 in the RD and/or SSP signings

Matt Clarke interview

 

[WCE_Phill]

Think we need to open an additional spots, I think we need to spot for a late Evans bid.

Don't understand how we can be limited for list spots

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

I hope we act before the draft and delist 2-3 extra players minimum. Re-rookieing them if we have the list space.

 

[Chris_6678]

Would putting Barnett onto the rookie list free up a spot?

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Would putting Barnett onto the rookie list free up a spot?

Yep, he's on the main list.
Would also consider Cripps (uncontracted), Owies, Johnston and Cole. Basically anyone with little or no chance of being poached by another team. Hoping Owies is though...

 

[BeornJ]

I haven't been reading as much about the upcoming draft cohort as I normally do, but still here is my wishlist:

Pick 1 Duursma
Pick 2 Sharp/Cumming
Pick 13 Farrow/Cumming


Banfield (mid)
Williams
Evans
Walley

Robertson



I won't melt if we pick CDT but would hope that we can still get either Sharp or Cumming.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Will be interesting to see if this is instituted this year or next and whether you can preselect a player for it.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

It's bullshit that a 1 win team can be tight for list spots.

In a year we seem to have decent FS/NGA prospects no less.

 

[CountryLad]

This is who we should take at pick 2. Best md in the draft and has room for improvement as he grows into that big frame.
BOG in this game in just his second senior game in a side that was getting outclassed.

Tough, clean hands, good mark, has enough pace, sticks his tackles and loves a goal. Numbers at state level aren’t telling the story as he was heavily rotated giving other players opportunities.

 

[ziad]

It's bullshit that a 1 win team can be tight for list spots.

In a year we seem to have decent FS/NGA prospects no less.

wins and list spots are not linked in any way, but I know

 

[Byron_Clanger]

• Picks 1 and 2 we intend to keep, although we are likely to receive offers for those with Essendon (who hold picks 5 and 6) and/or Melbourne (holding picks 7 and 8) The best placed to grab our attention

Honestly not fussed with either 1 or 2 going for 5 and 6. Or pick 2 for 7 and 8. Just stay the f*ck away from Carlton's 9 and 11 cos they'll be blowing out to picks in the teens.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

It's bullshit that a 1 win team can be tight for list spots.

In a year we seem to have decent FS/NGA prospects no less.

That's what happens when you 'bAcK tHe BoyS in' and have 'cReDitS iN tHe bAnK'

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

wins and list spots are not linked in any way, but I know

They should be in the sense that there shouldn't be so many shithouse players worthy of a contract next year.

 

[Boohemian]

That's what happens when you 'bAcK tHe BoyS in' and have 'cReDitS iN tHe bAnK'

Ok, so who are the 'cReDitS iN tHe bAnK' lads still left at the club?

Duggan? Cole? Who else? We've pretty much cleared the decks the last couple of offseasons. We have four premiership players remaining, could possibly be three depending on whether Cripps carries on.

The players on the list aren't necessarily shithouse, just young and underdeveloped.

 

[Ilkka Sinisalo]

The reason we are limited for list spots is because we have a handful of scrubs who we haven't delisted.

 

[LewyBroome]

1: (Bid on Patterson, Uwland and Annable) If all matched, Duursma
2: Traded to Essendon for pick 5/6
5: Sullivan if there or Cumming
6: Grlj
13: Harley Barker
33: Jack Dalton or Tyler Williams match bid might be absorbed here

 

[LewyBroome]

The reason we are limited for list spots is because we have a handful of scrubs who we haven't delisted.

Barnett
Johnstone

Should have been delisted without a second guess

 

[Happy Mastenator]

1: (Bid on Patterson, Uwland and Annable) If all matched, Duursma
2: Traded to Essendon for pick 5/6
5: Sullivan if there or Cumming
6: Grlj
13: Harley Barker
33: Jack Dalton or Tyler Williams match bid might be absorbed here

Did you mean Sharp? No Sullivans to be seen in the project top 10.

 

[noobermensch]

The last of Sullivan Robey's backlog from me, here we again saw the same type of game from Sullivan that he delivered just about every time prior to his move into the midfield through the finals. He again showed his elite and clean hands in marking contests, work rate to present up the ground, and ability to hit the scoreboard with a couple of goals. His kicking was off here, perhaps effected by the strong wind but also a bit erratic with his ball drop.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Ok, so who are the 'cReDitS iN tHe bAnK' lads still left at the club?

Duggan? Cole? Who else? We've pretty much cleared the decks the last couple of offseasons. We have four premiership players remaining, could possibly be three depending on whether Cripps carries on.

The players on the list aren't necessarily shithouse, just young and underdeveloped.

Owies
Kelly?

 

[Wooshaaaa]

1: (Bid on Patterson, Uwland and Annable) If all matched, Duursma
2: Traded to Essendon for pick 5/6
5: Sullivan if there or Cumming
6: Grlj
13: Harley Barker
33: Jack Dalton or Tyler Williams match bid might be absorbed here

Did you not read keys intro to the thread?

We aren't taking 6 picks in the draft.

3 + 2 NGA/FS bids only.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Did you mean Sharp? No Sullivans to be seen in the project top 10.

Oh did you mean Robey?

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Did you not read keys into to the thread?

We aren't taking 6 picks in the draft.

3 + 2 NGA/FS bids only.

I'd delist Barnett and take Curtin with a later pick in a heartbeat.

 

[BluesForEternity]

Carlton supporter coming in peace. How would you feel about this trade:

Carlton give: Pick 9, Pick 11, Sydney 2026 F1, Carlton 2027 F3
West Coast Give: Pick 13, 41, 53, West Coast 2026 F1

Gives you Picks 1, 2, 9, 11, 34 going into the draft instead of a bunch of backend picks that you won't be able to use (after you've filled out your 5 slots). Gives us enough to match our F/S this year, our NGA this year, and makes it easier for us to match our Top 3 F/S next year. The points roughly even out, if you come 16th next year and Sydney comes 3rd.

Probably still in Carlton's favour, but something of this general shape...thoughts?

 

[Mulldogg]

This is who we should take at pick 2. Best md in the draft and has room for improvement as he grows into that big frame.
BOG in this game in just his second senior game in a side that was getting outclassed.

Tough, clean hands, good mark, has enough pace, sticks his tackles and loves a goal. Numbers at state level aren’t telling the story as he was heavily rotated giving other players opportunities.

Needs to work on the trajectory of his kicking. Haven’t seen that many loopy up and under kicks since Matt Rosa was running around for us.

Contest work looks good though and seems an accurate set shot. Even though his set shot kicking also looks equally ungainly.