List Mgmt. Draft thread - 2025 (remaining picks: 29, 34)

[Keys]

Live draft hand
R1: 1 (Duursma), 4 (CDT), 19 (Lindsay)
R2: 29, 34
RD: 1

Draft picks pre-draft
R1: 1, 2, 13
R2: 34, 41
RD: 1

List spots available
Main list: 2 (includes Duursma, CDT, Lindsay)
Cat A Rookie list: 1 (expecting Robertson, Macrae and Schoenberg to join as SSP signings)
Cat B Rookie list: 1

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[pantskyle]

So you would trust opposition recruiters to be be truthful in what they tell you?

Ok.

I trust people I know with info they share. You're really reading far too much into it. If you don't want to believe Sharp could potentially slide to our third pick that's fine. I however can see how he could and would be delighted to pick him up if he was available at our pick.

 

[bzparkes]

Here’s disposals per turnover (so higher number is better) last year:



Side note, this was yet another statistic where we ranked dead last in the league.

So you're saying we had the least turnovers per disposal?

Nice.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

I trust people I know with info they share. You're really reading far too much into it. If you don't want to believe Sharp could potentially slide to our third pick that's fine. I however can see how he could and would be delighted to pick him up if he was available at our pick.

For me, it's a simple as taking sharp and or cumming, they're clearly the best 2 mids.

Both would be nice. One essential. And if that means we take cumming at 2 and ride the draft until pick 13 then we do it. If he's there great, if he isn't then take best available.

 

[Bender_]

So you're saying we had the least turnovers per disposal?

Nice.

The AFL media also does that - "they were ranked last in this negative statistic". Well, that sounds like a good thing to me.

Gotta be a better way to describe it. "They were the worst offenders in this category" maybe?

 

[Carbine Chaos]

0 chance Sharp is there at 13.

Wouldn’t be surprised if Essendon take him at one of their two top 10 picks.

I feel like the zero chance line gets debunked at last a few times each draft.

Sharp could definitely slide, who knows where he sits on the rankings of the relevant early clubs.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Had this trade rattling around my head this morning:

West Coast:
Get 5,9
Give 2,13

Carlton:
Get 13,21
Give 9,43

Essendon:
Get 2,43
Give 5,21

Pick 5 should get Cumming
Pick 9 might get Sharp but would need Essendon (6) and Melbourne (7,8) to overlook him

Keys - I think this is the most logical and fairest trade I have seen.

Dons - get to have 1st choice after Duursma and then another at 6. Lose the pick at 21 but get back points for their NGA


Eagles- still with Pick 1 but lose first choice option at 2 but delivers 3 picks inside 9 meaning we are still in the hitting zone at 9. Lose in theory points but worth it to get the third pick inside 10


Carlton - have an additional 262 points while still holding 2 R1 picks in the 9 to 13 range. Can sell off one for a F1 and use the points for Dean or use one after Dean.

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

Could Addinsall at #13 be our play if Sharp is off the board?

Bid on Uwland & Patterson at #1 & #2 or whichever order you choose.

Duursma at #3, CDT at #4. Throw a bid for Annable in there somewhere if you want.

Gold Coast are fresh outta points now. Wait and see what happens.

One of; Sharp, Cumming, Dovatston Farrow or Addinsall are still on the board.

Preference 1, take Sharp. Preference 2, one of Cumming or Addinsall. Preference 3, Dovaston. Preference 4, Farrow.

Agree with some here, Addinsall seems to be forgotten about. He's a ****ing unit, not a bad shout as an inside mid pick. Can play forward too, like Sharp.

 

[archiemoses]

Sharp at 13 is pure hopium

 

[bzparkes]

The AFL media also does that - "they were ranked last in this negative statistic". Well, that sounds like a good thing to me.

Gotta be a better way to describe it. "They were the worst offenders in this category" maybe?

Yeah, it's annoying as hell.

 

[mitchzz]

Could Addinsall at #13 be our play if Sharp is off the board?

Bid on Uwland & Patterson at #1 & #2 or whichever order you choose.

Duursma at #3, CDT at #4. Throw a bid for Annable in there somewhere if you want.

Gold Coast are fresh outta points now. Wait and see what happens.

One of; Sharp, Cumming, Dovatston Farrow or Addinsall are still on the board.

Preference 1, take Sharp. Preference 2, one of Cumming or Addinsall. Preference 3, Dovaston. Preference 4, Farrow.

Agree with some here, Addinsall seems to be forgotten about. He's a ****ing unit, not a bad shout as an inside mid pick. Can play forward too, like Sharp.

I'd love if we did this

 

[Byron_Clanger]

Could Addinsall at #13 be our play if Sharp is off the board?

Bid on Uwland & Patterson at #1 & #2 or whichever order you choose.

Duursma at #3, CDT at #4. Throw a bid for Annable in there somewhere if you want.

Gold Coast are fresh outta points now. Wait and see what happens.

One of; Sharp, Cumming, Dovatston Farrow or Addinsall are still on the board.

Preference 1, take Sharp. Preference 2, one of Cumming or Addinsall. Preference 3, Dovaston. Preference 4, Farrow.

Agree with some here, Addinsall seems to be forgotten about. He's a ****ing unit, not a bad shout as an inside mid pick. Can play forward too, like Sharp.

A club with balls would do that, unfortunately we are a club with no balls. We're a club of 'everyone get along with everyone' while everyone else takes their pound of flesh from us while we sit and giggle.

Adelaide's current caveman mentality would 1000% do something like that right now. Just like when they stood their ground on Ah Chee.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

I don't want Robey. Their, I've said it. Not for us. I think will come back to bite who ever takes him. Would fit right into the bombers!

I'm with you, let someone else take the risk

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

A club with balls would do that, unfortunately we are a club with no balls. We're a club of 'everyone get along with everyone' while everyone else takes their pound of flesh from us while we sit and giggle.

Adelaide's current caveman mentality would 1000% do something like that right now. Just like when they stood their ground on Ah Chee.

Cheer up Byron, no one knows what's going to happen yet. The drafting/recruiting team as it stands hasn't had an opportunity to bid on academy prospects at the pointy end of a draft yet, and Matt Clarke has already been on the record stating that we will bid if/when we feel its necessary. Wait and see, you might be pleasantly surprised.

 

[Broken_Chairs]

Agree these were all good picks, but we had pick 3 in a historically deep draft and traded back. Plus we whiffed on Murphy Reid, which doesn't look great in hindsight.

I guess i'm rating the drafting under Duane Massey rather than the broader list management group who would have ticked off that pick 3 trade.

Allan v M Reid is still way to soon to call a misstep. Allan was rated a top 8 pick and has huge upside. M Reid obviously had a phenomenal season.

Would M Reid have looked as good in our team? Debatable.

 

[TwoStriders]

We should've taken Murphy Reid (so did many other clubs with earlier picks too), but even Dockers fans that night were unsure. Credit to Freo for backing themselves though, we used to do it with interstate players but we seem a bit more shy to do so nowadays. Who cares if W Duursma is not from WA, take him, no more cute moves trying to get a WA player please by trading down, this isn't the draft for it.

However, surely given how Liam Baker and our draft picks are doing so far, it's proven to be a correct move. We'll see how Jagga Smith recovers first but so far so good. The Hewett/Ginbey draft pick downgrade is also going okay so far.

IIRC both Freo and Port were trying to trade up with us (from 16 and 17 respectively to 15) to select Joe Berry.

Rumour was we went with Port's deal even though Freo offered more, because we thought Port would select Allan at 16 if Freo took Berry at 15.

In retrospect... that would have been a best case scenario. Freo take Berry at 15, Port take Allan at 16 then we'd probably have 'been forced' to take Reid at 17. We could have used the higher pick Freo offered (34 I believe) on Boxshall.

You can drive yourself crazy rehashing things like this. Still have high hopes for Allan.

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

I feel like the zero chance line gets debunked at last a few times each draft.

Sharp could definitely slide, who knows where he sits on the rankings of the relevant early clubs.

Wouldn't that be telling of the collective football knowledge of posters on here, when the guy almost everyone wants to take at pick 2 instead slides to pick 13 (17 on the day) in a shallow draft because he just aint that good.

 

[Matera92]

It would be the most WC thing ever for us to finally have pointy end draft picks and not pick players to address our most obvious and glaring need.

If we walk away from this draft having not taken a midfielder in the top ten we deserve another five years of being shithouse.

 

[random260]

I don't know if we'll take CDT but I expect we'll take the two best talents at 1 and 2, that looks to be Duursma and CDT. It was no industry secret that it would take some very good offers to get 1 or 2 from us, they didn't come.

Is CDT a necessity for us? No. Is he the likely best rated talent for our second pick? Looks like it.

Both things can be true so no need to get upset about it.

That is good news my melting is avoided.

The first statement makes me very happy. Unless you gotten inside word we are picking two best available talent we can't assume so. Who's to say we won't pick 1 best available one need.

I remain confident sharp will be in eagles colours.

Who's to say we don't rate Cummings as best available talent.

People need to think outside the box and connect the dots.

 

[suntagonal]

IIRC both Freo and Port were trying to trade up with us (from 16 and 17 respectively to 15) to select Joe Berry.

Rumour was we went with Port's deal even though Freo offered more, because we thought Port would select Allan at 16 if Freo took Berry at 15.

In retrospect... that would have been a best case scenario. Freo take Berry at 15, Port take Allan at 16 then we'd probably have 'been forced' to take Reid at 17. We could have used the higher pick Freo offered (34 I believe) on Boxshall.

You can drive yourself crazy rehashing things like this. Still have high hopes for Allan.

Doubtful Reid would have had the same output in our team though.... we'd probably ruin his development as a HF

 

[pantskyle]

That is good news my melting is avoided.

The first statement makes me very happy. Unless you gotten inside word we are picking two best available talent we can't assume so. Who's to say we won't pick 1 best available one need.

I remain confident sharp will be in eagles colours.

Who's to say we don't rate Cummings as best available talent.

People need to think outside the box and connect the dots.

I'd be fine with Sharp at 2 but I do think come the night that may be a small reach, no doubt he fills a list need though. I would love Cumming and has gone under the radar due to his injury, may be a blessing and he could be available with our third. Duursma will definitely be an Eagle.

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

Did everyone get random's weekly reminder to think outside the box and connect the dots?

OK? Good. Let's continue.

 

[MaxHunt]

For you Sharp lovers, if things go as we expect pick 1 is WD and pick 2 is CDT. What would be the most you'd offer to get Sharp?

 

[uptheWC]

For you Sharp lovers, if things go as we expect pick 1 is WD and pick 2 is CDT. What would be the most you'd offer to get Sharp?

Fold the club

 

[dinnaz]

Whilst we are debating whether we take Sharp or CDT at 2 I think there is one very important thing to look at, CDT wouldn't last to our pick 13, Sharp could and I wouldn't be shocked if he was available.

Not to sure now that a trade of picks will happen, we didn't get the offers we were hoping for, we don't want to trade pick 1 and really the chance to do a trade would have likely involved another team. The teams with the most currency to target 2 seems fair happy to hit the draft with what they have.

Get used to the idea that we'll be taking Duursma and CDT and perhaps Sharp at 13.

#1 Duursma
#2 CDT
#13 Greeves

 

[WCEConnor23]

#1 Duursma
#2 CDT
#13 Greeves

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